JAA vs. FAA Training
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Hi guys,
I am new to this Forum and have few questions. As i share my passion for flying with you all I know this is the best place to ask questions.
I have started doing mine PPL following JAA syllabus (AFE books) and so far completed around 50 hours of flying (done mine SOLO and XCountry and all ground school tests) and at point when i had to do mine few more flights and final check ride, my school went nuts with prices for extra hours (600$+++)
so i had to stop and start searching for alternatives. I have found few schools that offered me good package, but my worrie is that all of them follow FAA training and ground school which is quite different as i am used to JAA syllabus. I am aware that i will have to do all ground tests again and extra hours to get familiar with different procedures.
My question is...How much different the training is (both ground school and flying)? Since i do intend to fly in EU, is the base training for PPL better to be done with FAA or JAA syllabus? What would you recommend me to do?
I thank you all for replays!!!
I am new to this Forum and have few questions. As i share my passion for flying with you all I know this is the best place to ask questions.
I have started doing mine PPL following JAA syllabus (AFE books) and so far completed around 50 hours of flying (done mine SOLO and XCountry and all ground school tests) and at point when i had to do mine few more flights and final check ride, my school went nuts with prices for extra hours (600$+++)
so i had to stop and start searching for alternatives. I have found few schools that offered me good package, but my worrie is that all of them follow FAA training and ground school which is quite different as i am used to JAA syllabus. I am aware that i will have to do all ground tests again and extra hours to get familiar with different procedures.My question is...How much different the training is (both ground school and flying)? Since i do intend to fly in EU, is the base training for PPL better to be done with FAA or JAA syllabus? What would you recommend me to do?
I thank you all for replays!!!
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JAA Vs FAA
Hello buddy ,,
I Believe there is a difference Btween JAA and FAA Standards , But this difference is mainly in ground school ,, But thats depends on what license you need for your future Career , if you need JAA License you should stay and follow the JAA Training Standards Other wise or if you dont need the JAA license you can proceed with the FAA ,
But keep in mind if you do the training accroding to FAA and then you want to Convert your license to JAA you will do alot of work to get the JAA license
BUT MY ADVISE STAY WHERE YOU ARE TRY TO FIND SOMTHN CHEAPER (JAA)
I hope this help you
Good Luck !
I Believe there is a difference Btween JAA and FAA Standards , But this difference is mainly in ground school ,, But thats depends on what license you need for your future Career , if you need JAA License you should stay and follow the JAA Training Standards Other wise or if you dont need the JAA license you can proceed with the FAA ,
But keep in mind if you do the training accroding to FAA and then you want to Convert your license to JAA you will do alot of work to get the JAA license
BUT MY ADVISE STAY WHERE YOU ARE TRY TO FIND SOMTHN CHEAPER (JAA)
I hope this help you
Good Luck !
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I assume that you are doing your training in the UK? If that is the case, as you already have 50 hours or so, and well embedded in the JAA system, stick to JAA. Probably consider a JAA flight school in the US to save time and money, or a cheaper school in the UK.
There is not a lot of differences in terms of flying theory between the JAA and FAA. The main differences lay within the areas of Air Law, which includes information on airspace rules, and RT procedures. And the JAA goes into greater depth about Human Performances. But overall both systems are of a high standard. They just cater for their respective flight training culture, local legislations and airspace procedures.
There is not a lot of differences in terms of flying theory between the JAA and FAA. The main differences lay within the areas of Air Law, which includes information on airspace rules, and RT procedures. And the JAA goes into greater depth about Human Performances. But overall both systems are of a high standard. They just cater for their respective flight training culture, local legislations and airspace procedures.
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I am sad to say that mine training is done in the SandPit in the Middle East...i do not want to name the school/academy.
The thing is that i am now used to all procedures for PPL and 10 more hours of flying is all that i need to get my licence. I am still trying to find solution with few other schools...thanx all for your reply. If you do have any suggestions please post it up!
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The thing is that i am now used to all procedures for PPL and 10 more hours of flying is all that i need to get my licence. I am still trying to find solution with few other schools...thanx all for your reply. If you do have any suggestions please post it up!
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Hi !
What do you think guys about FAA training and then to convert into JAA licence for an european guy ?
I think it is good, you have both licence, good english, it is cheaper and in the CV, it should look just good.
Then, after you have converted your FAA licence into JAA, then it is JAA and nobody can say you anything about it because an EASA country delivered you a JAA licence because, as I think, you are able to fly in Europe.
What do you think ? And for airlines when they are assuming.
Thanks !
FLT86.
What do you think guys about FAA training and then to convert into JAA licence for an european guy ?
I think it is good, you have both licence, good english, it is cheaper and in the CV, it should look just good.
Then, after you have converted your FAA licence into JAA, then it is JAA and nobody can say you anything about it because an EASA country delivered you a JAA licence because, as I think, you are able to fly in Europe.
What do you think ? And for airlines when they are assuming.
Thanks !
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Hi Apollo Kid,
I think the best thing to do for you is to go to the US (which is more affordable of course), get into a JAA approved school there and while doing the JAA course you can do the FAA written and checkride along with the JAA.
Check with Orlando flight training.
On completion you have FAA and JAA license.
Hope this might help.
I think the best thing to do for you is to go to the US (which is more affordable of course), get into a JAA approved school there and while doing the JAA course you can do the FAA written and checkride along with the JAA.
Check with Orlando flight training.
On completion you have FAA and JAA license.
Hope this might help.
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FAA to JAA instead of straight JAA...
FLT86 asked the question I wanted to ask.
To put it differently though...
Considering the prices to rent plane "x" in the USA - in USD - is less than the prices to rent the same place in Europe _- in Euros- , COUPLED with the fact 1 euro is 1.5 USD right now, why not use that leverage and get your FAA ATPL in the US and come back and pay a little bit more to convert it to JAA ATPL?
Any suggstions?
To put it differently though...
Considering the prices to rent plane "x" in the USA - in USD - is less than the prices to rent the same place in Europe _- in Euros- , COUPLED with the fact 1 euro is 1.5 USD right now, why not use that leverage and get your FAA ATPL in the US and come back and pay a little bit more to convert it to JAA ATPL?
Any suggstions?
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You have to do your sums carefully factoring in travel and accommodation costs by doing an FAA ATP. The conversion also needs to be costed carefully as, anecdotally, many people still need to do the full 30 hours CPL course anyway. You will have to do the ATPL theory exams in JAA-land.
It works for some; not for others. People training the modular route can also work while they are studying and hour building; others have commitments at home.
Cheers
Whirls
It works for some; not for others. People training the modular route can also work while they are studying and hour building; others have commitments at home.
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Once you have your FAA Multi/CPL/IR then it's a straight license conversion... ie ATPL writtens, CPL - training as required, IR - 15hr conversion course of which 10hrs can be in a sim.
Also, as long as you hold a FAA class 1 medical, then your JAR Class 1 doesn't have to be an initial, it's just an extended renewal. That means for example, if you have any minor eye sight issues that would preclude a pass at initial but are within the limits for renewal, then you can get it issued.
All this is well and good as long as you're on top of your game and get through in minimum time... if not it could wind up being a nightmare!
Other thing is not many schools in USA will teach you anything to do with an NDB due to the fact that they are considered mostly obsolete there... Might make for a rather rude shock when you arrive with a fresh FAA IR expecting to pass in minimum time and now you have to learn single engine NDB holds/approaches on top of all the other operational differences. (It's not magic though!)
If you find a good school with a good instructor and you put the effort in then you should be fine taking this route.
Also, as long as you hold a FAA class 1 medical, then your JAR Class 1 doesn't have to be an initial, it's just an extended renewal. That means for example, if you have any minor eye sight issues that would preclude a pass at initial but are within the limits for renewal, then you can get it issued.
All this is well and good as long as you're on top of your game and get through in minimum time... if not it could wind up being a nightmare!
Other thing is not many schools in USA will teach you anything to do with an NDB due to the fact that they are considered mostly obsolete there... Might make for a rather rude shock when you arrive with a fresh FAA IR expecting to pass in minimum time and now you have to learn single engine NDB holds/approaches on top of all the other operational differences. (It's not magic though!)
If you find a good school with a good instructor and you put the effort in then you should be fine taking this route.
