Advice on moving from Aus to UK to finish my training
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Advice on moving from Aus to UK to finish my training
Hi guys, as the title suggests I'm thinking of moving from Australia to the UK to finish my training. My wife and I have wanted to move there for some time, and she wants a career change so we thought we might do it now while the kids are still young. I'm a British citizen, and I believe my family can get permanent residency.
I have my PPL and am doing NVFR at the moment, and aim to fly for an airline eventually.
I was hoping someone could help me out with a few questions:
What is the next step once you have a CPL/IR in the UK?
Here in Australia one would typically either instruct, or go bush for a few years to build experience and hours. Seeing England is so small (comparatively), how big is the GA scene there? Do you do charter sort of work and build some hours there like you do here?
I could be wrong, but I don't imagine there would be the same sort of demand for GA there due to the physical size of the country...
If I'm correct, that would suggest a large demand for relatively few jobs. How does this work, do the airlines have lower requirements as a result?
I just want to make sure that if we do move it will be feasible to do so; otherwise we might put it off for five years or so.
That is the major one, once that is sorted I was hoping someone could point me in the direction of a good school. We don't necessarily want to live in London although I do have family there. I was thinking of Oxford as I have a friend there and it's not too far from London; however having said that we would be prepared to move elsewhere if it worked out better.
We would be looking for a good school where I can do my instrument rating and ATPLs (and the rest of my CPL if we moved soon), in a town where my wife could work and the kids could go to school. I must admit I'm fairly clueless about England outside of London
Any advice would be much appreciated.
They are really the main two things: Is it feasible in regards to training and career vs staying in Australia, and if we do it where do we move to.
The other things (visas, ICAO -> JAA conversion etc) google can help me with, but if anyone has any thoughts on the above I'd be much obliged.
Cheers, Dan.
I have my PPL and am doing NVFR at the moment, and aim to fly for an airline eventually.
I was hoping someone could help me out with a few questions:
What is the next step once you have a CPL/IR in the UK?
Here in Australia one would typically either instruct, or go bush for a few years to build experience and hours. Seeing England is so small (comparatively), how big is the GA scene there? Do you do charter sort of work and build some hours there like you do here?
I could be wrong, but I don't imagine there would be the same sort of demand for GA there due to the physical size of the country...
If I'm correct, that would suggest a large demand for relatively few jobs. How does this work, do the airlines have lower requirements as a result?
I just want to make sure that if we do move it will be feasible to do so; otherwise we might put it off for five years or so.
That is the major one, once that is sorted I was hoping someone could point me in the direction of a good school. We don't necessarily want to live in London although I do have family there. I was thinking of Oxford as I have a friend there and it's not too far from London; however having said that we would be prepared to move elsewhere if it worked out better.
We would be looking for a good school where I can do my instrument rating and ATPLs (and the rest of my CPL if we moved soon), in a town where my wife could work and the kids could go to school. I must admit I'm fairly clueless about England outside of London
Any advice would be much appreciated.
They are really the main two things: Is it feasible in regards to training and career vs staying in Australia, and if we do it where do we move to.
The other things (visas, ICAO -> JAA conversion etc) google can help me with, but if anyone has any thoughts on the above I'd be much obliged.
Cheers, Dan.
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This topic has been covered many times over the years.
A couple of things.
LASORs is your friend.
Read it through very thoroughly. Most of the answers about how to convert are in there.
To save costs etc, I would suggest Bristol Ground School for the theory. You can do a lot of the study in Oz before shifting over. This will save you a fortune in living costs.
While you're there, ask around for flight training providers. My friends went to PAT and said that they were pretty good. There are others around too.
The GA we know and love in Oz is pretty much non existent here in the UK/Europe. However, there is instructing, parachute operations and glider towing.
The industry at the moment is in a bit of a slump. A couple of airlines have already gone broke throwing a lot of experienced pilots onto the market. The low houred guys are finding it tough to get a job at the moment.
There are jobs out there but you have to look. (Not unlike packing your car and heading NW)
It'll be probably 2011 before any significant recruitment takes place.
Good luck
A couple of things.
LASORs is your friend.
Read it through very thoroughly. Most of the answers about how to convert are in there.
To save costs etc, I would suggest Bristol Ground School for the theory. You can do a lot of the study in Oz before shifting over. This will save you a fortune in living costs.
While you're there, ask around for flight training providers. My friends went to PAT and said that they were pretty good. There are others around too.
The GA we know and love in Oz is pretty much non existent here in the UK/Europe. However, there is instructing, parachute operations and glider towing.
The industry at the moment is in a bit of a slump. A couple of airlines have already gone broke throwing a lot of experienced pilots onto the market. The low houred guys are finding it tough to get a job at the moment.
There are jobs out there but you have to look. (Not unlike packing your car and heading NW)
It'll be probably 2011 before any significant recruitment takes place.
Good luck
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Gday Gordon, as you say in Australia.
So you wanna leave Melbourne - "The place to be" lol, (as you put on all your rego's) for England where we have OVC in our tafs most often then not?
I got my PPL from YMMB and must admit GA is something else in your country....so can't wait to come back to see places like ST Kilda.
In-fact, I was there recently to get my NVFR and MULTI.
In the UK they expect 5hrs dual flying and 5 touch and gos (SOLO) for the NVFR, less demanding then 10hrs + a test over there in AUS!
But you must check LASORS for exact details.
I am thinking of going to Bristol GS, but this will mean that I cannot join Oxford Modular as they expect you to do the GS with them in-order to join their modular program. What do you think about this RedSnail?
Meanwhile, its hour building time for me here in the UK as the weather has kicked in and is good for VFR flying. But no doubt Melbourne is calling for a holiday and some navs, perhaps to Wagga Wagga or something.
Gordon, what I do say is come here for a holiday and check the place out... what I would do to move to St Kilda!
Good luck
So you wanna leave Melbourne - "The place to be" lol, (as you put on all your rego's) for England where we have OVC in our tafs most often then not?
I got my PPL from YMMB and must admit GA is something else in your country....so can't wait to come back to see places like ST Kilda.
In-fact, I was there recently to get my NVFR and MULTI.
In the UK they expect 5hrs dual flying and 5 touch and gos (SOLO) for the NVFR, less demanding then 10hrs + a test over there in AUS!
But you must check LASORS for exact details.
I am thinking of going to Bristol GS, but this will mean that I cannot join Oxford Modular as they expect you to do the GS with them in-order to join their modular program. What do you think about this RedSnail?
Meanwhile, its hour building time for me here in the UK as the weather has kicked in and is good for VFR flying. But no doubt Melbourne is calling for a holiday and some navs, perhaps to Wagga Wagga or something.
Gordon, what I do say is come here for a holiday and check the place out... what I would do to move to St Kilda!
Good luck
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Bristol GS is one of the best IMHO. Whilst I didn't use them, my hubby did and he has nothing but praise for them. (He's ex Ansett now with easyJet)
I haven't flown with Oxford and while they have a reasonable reputation, there are other very good flight schools out there that don't demand you do their theory course. I would ask them who they think you should have a look at.
Go and visit as many schools as you can find. Get a "feel" for them, what may fit you may not necessarily fit another.
I haven't flown with Oxford and while they have a reasonable reputation, there are other very good flight schools out there that don't demand you do their theory course. I would ask them who they think you should have a look at.
Go and visit as many schools as you can find. Get a "feel" for them, what may fit you may not necessarily fit another.
