Highland Flying School in Administration?
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you might be surprised
they orchestrated there own demise
this was nothing more than a scam
a school that was doing so well only to go down within a period of six months owing 220.000.00 that takes some doing
and taking money right up to the end of unsuspecting students and pilots
at least they are history now
however they owe quite a few people a lot of money who are not going to lie down and take it
we know you have our dosh and we are going to get it back
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this was nothing more than a scam
a school that was doing so well only to go down within a period of six months owing 220.000.00 that takes some doing
and taking money right up to the end of unsuspecting students and pilots
at least they are history now
however they owe quite a few people a lot of money who are not going to lie down and take it
we know you have our dosh and we are going to get it back
<<edit: details removed. KG.>>
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no bearde - I am the *first* to roll my eyes when I get numerous somewhat pathetically bleeting reports of messages that are libelous or unfair..will notify my solicitor forthwith...etc etc etc.
Your posts, however, are taking an ugly turn of direction and phraseology. I know you're upset at the financial losses, I know you're all upset about the conduct of <<HFS*>> - to constantly repeat the words "crooks" and "scam" is not the way I expect you to deal with this situation in a forum whos title includes the word "Professional".
You most certainly are not being so.
The legal system - not YOU - will decide if the persons involved are crooks. The courts will decide, not YOU, if it was a deliberate scam.
Of course you are all entitled to your opinions - but don't try to let your bitterness come out through the pages of this forum.
Posting the personal address and home telephone number of those involved in this situation is NOT what the "Professional Training" forum is for.
You may very well be 100% right in everything you say - I have no idea. I do, however, expect you to be 100% factual, professional and polite whilst addressing the subject here.
<<edit: Technical rephrase - at request of "bunroy">>
Your posts, however, are taking an ugly turn of direction and phraseology. I know you're upset at the financial losses, I know you're all upset about the conduct of <<HFS*>> - to constantly repeat the words "crooks" and "scam" is not the way I expect you to deal with this situation in a forum whos title includes the word "Professional".
You most certainly are not being so.
The legal system - not YOU - will decide if the persons involved are crooks. The courts will decide, not YOU, if it was a deliberate scam.
Of course you are all entitled to your opinions - but don't try to let your bitterness come out through the pages of this forum.
Posting the personal address and home telephone number of those involved in this situation is NOT what the "Professional Training" forum is for.
You may very well be 100% right in everything you say - I have no idea. I do, however, expect you to be 100% factual, professional and polite whilst addressing the subject here.
<<edit: Technical rephrase - at request of "bunroy">>
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given the assets and the level of debt i doubt very much if anyone will get more than 20p in in the pound owed.
i hope the majority have paid by credit card. section 75 credit consumer act will get you you money back.
i hope the majority have paid by credit card. section 75 credit consumer act will get you you money back.
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Keygrip,
You are absolutely correct in what you say. Being "professional" and having the ability to put forward reasoned arguement for debate do not seem to form part of the make up here.
Such forums were not designed, I would have hoped, for the display of such personally based vitriol, where possibly libelous statements could be made by an individual hiding behind an anonymous "username" - but is it, bearing in mind some responses, as anonymous as hoped??
You are absolutely correct in what you say. Being "professional" and having the ability to put forward reasoned arguement for debate do not seem to form part of the make up here.
Such forums were not designed, I would have hoped, for the display of such personally based vitriol, where possibly libelous statements could be made by an individual hiding behind an anonymous "username" - but is it, bearing in mind some responses, as anonymous as hoped??
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I leaned to fly in Tees-side with Tees-side Flying Club in the early 1980s and my first instructor was Peter Brooks, so I can say that I know him, albeing a good number of years ago. I fould Peter to be a first class instructor and still remember that day when I landed G-AXOZ while still "under the hood" after having done some instrument flying with Peter giving me verbal commands on what to do. His accurancy was uncanny - straight down the centre line.
It totally amazes me the c*** that is being written about the demise of the Highland Flying Club and Peter's involvment. No-one apears to mention anything about the many years that the club ran successfully and the number of pilots who were trained without problems.
If anyone of the "contributors" had any business accumen at all they would know that one NEVER puts all their eggs in one basket. I am actually surprised that the aircraft are actually owned by the HFC and not by a separate company and only leased to HFC. Having the buildings owned by a separate company is good commercial sense as is Peter's house being owned by himself (and his wife - presumably) and totally separate from his business activities.
I just wonder how many of you would be crying foul if you were made redundant from your employment and the administrator ask you to give up YOUR house in order to "balance the books" of your employer's (now defunct) company. So why should Peter's home be so discussed. He will have worked very hard over the years to purchase his house, so is entitled to his "reward", AS IS ALL OF US.
Flying clubs, irrespective how well they are run, are always going to be in a precarious financial position. They are high cost operations and very dependant on the financial stability of the clients and external economic situations, such as financial constraints by banks etc.. It is no wonder then how many fail. I remember one in Aberdeen which went bust in the late 1970s when I was considering learning to fly - again there were a lot of "rumours" going about concerning the way the operation was being run - whether true or untrue - but the flying club, soon after, ceased trading and I saved myself money.
When money is tight in a household, the first thing to be curtailed will be hobbys and as flying is so expensive - it will always be the first to go. Remember it is not just YOUR financial situation - it involves ALL other members of the club who are flying and if their financial situation changes, it wil effect you!!!. Therefore it is crass stupidity to pay "up-front" for (especially) a large number of flying lessons unless you get some sort of financial guarantee in case all goes "pear shaped". I never did, always willing to pay that little bit extra to act as an insurance policy. I never had any trouble with paying for my flying, I paid for what I got - WHEN I GOT IT.
Your watchwords should always be:
It totally amazes me the c*** that is being written about the demise of the Highland Flying Club and Peter's involvment. No-one apears to mention anything about the many years that the club ran successfully and the number of pilots who were trained without problems.
If anyone of the "contributors" had any business accumen at all they would know that one NEVER puts all their eggs in one basket. I am actually surprised that the aircraft are actually owned by the HFC and not by a separate company and only leased to HFC. Having the buildings owned by a separate company is good commercial sense as is Peter's house being owned by himself (and his wife - presumably) and totally separate from his business activities.
I just wonder how many of you would be crying foul if you were made redundant from your employment and the administrator ask you to give up YOUR house in order to "balance the books" of your employer's (now defunct) company. So why should Peter's home be so discussed. He will have worked very hard over the years to purchase his house, so is entitled to his "reward", AS IS ALL OF US.
Flying clubs, irrespective how well they are run, are always going to be in a precarious financial position. They are high cost operations and very dependant on the financial stability of the clients and external economic situations, such as financial constraints by banks etc.. It is no wonder then how many fail. I remember one in Aberdeen which went bust in the late 1970s when I was considering learning to fly - again there were a lot of "rumours" going about concerning the way the operation was being run - whether true or untrue - but the flying club, soon after, ceased trading and I saved myself money.
When money is tight in a household, the first thing to be curtailed will be hobbys and as flying is so expensive - it will always be the first to go. Remember it is not just YOUR financial situation - it involves ALL other members of the club who are flying and if their financial situation changes, it wil effect you!!!. Therefore it is crass stupidity to pay "up-front" for (especially) a large number of flying lessons unless you get some sort of financial guarantee in case all goes "pear shaped". I never did, always willing to pay that little bit extra to act as an insurance policy. I never had any trouble with paying for my flying, I paid for what I got - WHEN I GOT IT.
Your watchwords should always be:
CAVEAT EMPTOR
(BUYER BEWARE)
(BUYER BEWARE)
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Hi all,
Going off a a slight tangent, but does anyone know who these (new) organisations are (and will it help / hinder the situation at Dalcross)?
Highland Aviation Training Ltd., Invernss
and
HIGHLAND FLYING SCHOOL LTD
C/O ALEXANDER IAIN FRASER (TENON GROUP)
JOHNSTONE HOUSE
ROSE STREET
ABERDEEN
AB10 1UD
Going off a a slight tangent, but does anyone know who these (new) organisations are (and will it help / hinder the situation at Dalcross)?
Highland Aviation Training Ltd., Invernss
and
HIGHLAND FLYING SCHOOL LTD
C/O ALEXANDER IAIN FRASER (TENON GROUP)
JOHNSTONE HOUSE
ROSE STREET
ABERDEEN
AB10 1UD
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Herriot,
Tenon Group are just administrators handling the winding up of Highland Flying School, a bunch of accountants.
As for Highland Aviation Training... I think there's potentially some exciting stuff happening at Dalcross which I'm sure will come out in the wash soon.
Tenon Group are just administrators handling the winding up of Highland Flying School, a bunch of accountants.
As for Highland Aviation Training... I think there's potentially some exciting stuff happening at Dalcross which I'm sure will come out in the wash soon.
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Living near Dalcross - I heard this aircraft today. G-INFO gives the owner as:
HIGHLAND FLYING CLUB LTD
74 NEVIS PARK
INVERNESS
IV3 8PP
It used to be one of the Highland Flying School aircraft ........
HIGHLAND FLYING CLUB LTD
74 NEVIS PARK
INVERNESS
IV3 8PP
It used to be one of the Highland Flying School aircraft ........
New article just published, says the police investigation is over and they could not find any criminal wrongdoing. CAA probe also over, same result.
Police close probe into flying school - The Inverness Courier
Police close probe into flying school - The Inverness Courier
