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Old 24th Mar 2009, 18:19
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2.5K for a share, sounds like a plan to me. do we have the foundation of like minded group forming from the ashes?

I would be in....

Happy to co-ordinate pm's

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Old 24th Mar 2009, 18:23
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Well I could get my rating back and the other chap I am thinking about would be getting his examiner's and Instructors back. Insurance would be as cheap as it gets with 2 instructors in the group with 7000 hours between us.

The training would still have to be run through HF so you would have to bung them something to cover the RTF costs.

H'mm send me a pm and we can continue by email I don't think we need to discuss it on the thread. It could be a win win for all concerned including the aero club.
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 18:27
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Hi folks,

This is all very sad, I had just completed my FI and had hoped to start teaching in the spring. Anyways, I'll hopefully be online soon with HF and will be able to provide through the week training at HAC to those people that are stuck. If you're not from Inverness then there are several great training providers in central scotland, I can recommend Tayside as I completed my PPL/CPL/FIC with them and for the most part, the customer service was very high, the aircraft were in excellent condition and the instruction was always very good.
I've been trying to find a way to help folk with their documentation but it's all with the administrators at the moment so sadly there is little I can do.
For those that have lost money and still need to train, or for those that are very close to completeing I can offer a little help as I will be happy to complete your training at no instructor fee. This isn't a totally benevolent gesture as I need the hours too but it's all I can offer.

PM me for my contact details and we can discuss it.
Obviously those like mad jock have ratings already but there are several (like myself) who to some degree have had the rug pulled out from under them and this is what we want to do for a living at least for a few years it goes without saying that I'd appreciate it if you could refer those in training to people like myself, Neil and Erin who at the moment don't have a job .

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Old 24th Mar 2009, 22:57
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Boss bids to keep flying school operating - Press & Journal
Interesting reading
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 12:41
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Boabity

Please tell me what thread or www link I should follow to find what HAC has said. I can find all sorts of threads but none that I can identify as comming from HAC.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 14:46
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be carefull

the school only owned two tommies
the other two are owned by the director and leased back to the school

be very aware of this !!!
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 15:02
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I know Leading Edge are renting out the KG tomahawk there for £100 an hour if bought in a ten hour block. I'm thinking is there any way of renting this and finding an instructor willing to help out to finish off PPL's for the likes of myself who have been caught up in the middle of all this? I know there would be a few fellas up for this. It could be an hour gaining exercise for those out of work and a lifeline to us......

Any advice on this would be much appreciated! Does anybody know of any other good training facilities in the area apart from Moray because I don't think it will be an option for me as non-British?
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 15:28
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Did you see Dan's post above?

For those that have lost money and still need to train, or for those that are very close to completeing I can offer a little help as I will be happy to complete your training at no instructor fee. This isn't a totally benevolent gesture as I need the hours too but it's all I can offer.


1) Join HAC
2) Hire plane
3) Contact Dan / HAC Instructor / Neil etc
4) Come to an arrangement
5) Fly
Simples...

If HAC / Leading Edge took MOD credits, I would be taking off on Friday if they did...
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 16:04
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The only other idea I've had is theres a Bolkow Junior 208 available which is pretty cheap to fly (£80 odd an hour) so I may try renting that out, although I'm not sure what the Bolkow is like to fly.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 16:18
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Dublin

There are many many a bog trotter in the UK military and there are ways and means of checking you out.

It might takes a few weeks extra but it shouldn't be a problem.

We had 4 lads from your neck of the woods in my TA unit and they didn't have a problem. Turned out one of them had a player as a cousin which he didn't know about, and he still got his clearance through the same time as the others about a week after the rest of us.

And just to note that 100 quid an hour personally I feel is quite a good rate and if it includes a landing card is still cheaper than you will find else where in scotland.

But unless you are going to burn the whole ten hours in under a week please don't pay up front.

And for the others the article in the courier is now on line
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 18:07
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From the courier

"A former employee with the flying school warned some time ago that the business was facing difficulty.


"They have also ruined a wonderful relationship between the school and the aero club," he said yesterday. "It was the best flying school in the country, socially and training wise""

Shouldnt that say a " former employee with a". I imagine a lot of this started with this person.

What do you say No Bearde?

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Old 25th Mar 2009, 18:36
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Dear Cavoktoday,

Can't get a proper word in edge-wise. Too many pundits telling us things that we haven't heard yet. Anyway, we can't spare the time from tea swilling and there is a plate of soup on the go. And being insulted, and good fun talking over the thousands of flying hours wot we have done-just up our street. We have to move that stash of cash from the Airside Passes before the airport find it. Oh, I forgot, haven't issued a pass for a year now. Enjoyed the Quiz night last night, timing was quite ironic and we apologise.
If you want to hear another side to the vitriole please come and see us although there isn't much to say except turn most comments through 180 degrees for some semblance of reality. Very pleased someone earlier is guaranteeing us our £8,000 outstanding and we will get it back, Hello...

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Old 25th Mar 2009, 18:45
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New School at Inverness - Highland Flying

I've read what the new CFI for Highland Flying, James Hayward has said in his introductory statement on the HAC website and its good to hear that another flying training provider will start at Inverness!

Although foremost, what has happened at HFS is beyond unfortunate!

I was someone who paid up front for the 45 hrs, but luckily for me I used about 41 of the 45hrs and majority of ground exams so pretty much used up all the money I gave, but I feel for those who have just 0-20+ hrs and paid for 45!

Although it may take a while for Highland Flying to get started, it maybe an option to find and finish off the final few flights at another school and the final ground exams.....how many of us are in this position eh!!! lol.

I like Dan's idea (above) for those that need to finish the licence....prob chase this up.

For the CFI James Hayward (Highland Flying) statement, click this link: Highland Aero Club
Click the yellow fixed wing section, and within there you will see his name about 1/3 of the way down the page, then click the link for the statement.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 21:10
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It actually became a bit of a joke.
I'm genuinely glad you and the others can see things that way - it wasn't always particularly pleasant seeing how people were treated behind their backs! Good to see that there are efforts to get training back to Inverness on an informal footing, it doesn't take an FTO to do PPL training.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 23:00
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Hi there folks,

Just a quick update to apologise. It appears I was a bit premature in offering my services for HAC/HF. They are extremely busy at the moment regrouping and deciding what they are planning on providing and I had really jumped too far ahead of myself. Sorry about that.

Longer term, I still plan on not charging anyone an instructor fee that has lost money to HFS for PPL training and I have every intentions of sticking to that.

Best of luck folks, I'm sure things will turn out alot less gloomy than it seems

Danny
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 23:27
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Contact LE or tayside and do it under their umbrella Dan. I would distance myself from the Aero club as much as possible. The committee seem to be in overdrive at the moment, one member in particular who seems to think he is the authority up here and is continually sticking his nose where it's not wanted.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 07:51
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dont take my word for it read it

g-bxza
g-brlp

g-info on the caa website

need i say more
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 09:50
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"Dont't take my word for it"

Bearde,

Our flying club aircraft has a single name as the "owner" on G-INFO but I can assure you that the individual neither paid for the aircraft nor owns any part of it, nor is the aircraft owned by a syndicate.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 10:53
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Hey No Bearde, thanks for the PM. You wouldn't really get the lawyers on your old pal would you? Evidently you would so:

I withdraw my statement and hereby apologise. Sorry. It was just a rumour I heard and I don't know what really happened.

I guess I'm just a "bit" annoyed that such a good school which has helped me so much in the past has been brought down by such bitterness, lots of people have lost their livelihoods and now I can't go flying.

I wouldnt want to be next to get on the wrong side of you!
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 11:37
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accepted

it was not a good place to be at that time.

a lot of lies and rubbish has been written, which could have been detrimental to people's life's,


all this is now under the bridge and life should get back to normal,
there will be training up here, but like with most things ,
time and money,and gearing up to provide everyone with what they want
just cant happen overnight,

although it must be said its looking positive !!!!!
i know of one big announcment coming on the first of may that will help to put meat on the bone , after all this is a wonderfull place to fly
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