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hi im considering in going to the EFT program on the Pro-pilot one. i know some is going to say search the fourm. i have doen that and all the information is dating a yr or 2 back.
So can someone actually tell me more infromation on this course. if there anyone out there thats been on this course/still on it that would be gr8.
is it worth getting an JAA ATPL then applying for a job or jus get a frozen ATPL and working????
what condition are their aircrafts in and wat is the teaching system?? worth it for the money or not.
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So can someone actually tell me more infromation on this course. if there anyone out there thats been on this course/still on it that would be gr8.
is it worth getting an JAA ATPL then applying for a job or jus get a frozen ATPL and working????
what condition are their aircrafts in and wat is the teaching system?? worth it for the money or not.
Thanks
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As an instructor there, I can tell you that the thread linked to above is old information - all posters there have had their refunds issued, if due one (some weren't 
) - and despite repeated requests for information - we still didn't hearfrom a couple of posters.
On behalf of everyone who trained late 2007 I can admit that, there were considerable problems induced by a former staff member - and that the FTO may have failed some of you. However, for the 7 years before this and over a year since this every customer we have had has left highly trained, and that over 80% of our PPL students return to complete further training with us, and recommend us.
The schools has recovered well, and we currently book about 2-3 months in advance as we are busy - so get in touch if you have any questions. We're also happy to provide ex students contact details if you wish to speak to previous students.
) - and despite repeated requests for information - we still didn't hearfrom a couple of posters.On behalf of everyone who trained late 2007 I can admit that, there were considerable problems induced by a former staff member - and that the FTO may have failed some of you. However, for the 7 years before this and over a year since this every customer we have had has left highly trained, and that over 80% of our PPL students return to complete further training with us, and recommend us.
The schools has recovered well, and we currently book about 2-3 months in advance as we are busy - so get in touch if you have any questions. We're also happy to provide ex students contact details if you wish to speak to previous students.
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I emailed the school months ago with my personal info and the amount due. Of course no money has arrived in my mail.
In reply to one of the poster's questions, the airplanes are kind of decrepit, tend to break down very often... During my time there I even got to see the whole fleet but 2 or 3 planes down for maintenance. So take your time if you go over there, don't expect to get done on time. If it does happen, so much for the better, but don't count on it.
In reply to one of the poster's questions, the airplanes are kind of decrepit, tend to break down very often... During my time there I even got to see the whole fleet but 2 or 3 planes down for maintenance. So take your time if you go over there, don't expect to get done on time. If it does happen, so much for the better, but don't count on it.
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I visited a friend at EFT recently, and have to disagree about their aircraft - they are in pretty good shape compared to a lot of other schools training aircraft (Not to say that the average is very good - but they're better than the 2 other JAA schools I visited over there) Also like to add I was glad to see that the planes were in maintenance - it means they were being fixed and had a good culture of reporting faults
Also - every one who was there, when I visited was completing about 3-4 days earlier than planned.
The guys at the school were upfront and honest about the situation, including the refunds.
No matter, where you intend to train, go and visit call and ask for references, I made the mistake of not doing so in Spain!
Also - every one who was there, when I visited was completing about 3-4 days earlier than planned.
The guys at the school were upfront and honest about the situation, including the refunds.
No matter, where you intend to train, go and visit call and ask for references, I made the mistake of not doing so in Spain!
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I have recently returned from EFT having completed my PPL + Night rating there. If your worried about the state of the planes dont be, i was flying twice a day and wouldnt have been able to complete 50 hours of flying in 5 weeks if the planes werent working. Yes they are down some of the time but i would prefer that they were fixed when theres a problem than flying unsafe planes, wouldnt you? And even if they are down there is normally a different plane you can take.
Overall its a good school with good instructors and planes, I would have done the pro course there aswell except i want to do everything at the same FTO (after PPL) and obv you cant do a multi IR in non JAA state but i will definately be going back to do my flight instructor ratings there
Overall its a good school with good instructors and planes, I would have done the pro course there aswell except i want to do everything at the same FTO (after PPL) and obv you cant do a multi IR in non JAA state but i will definately be going back to do my flight instructor ratings there
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thanks guys for the information....but is the instuctors work for EFT or AirBenAvaiator. cos if there jus leasing planes then what about the insructorts.
and everyone on about the refunds things??? wat is that all all about.
and everyone on about the refunds things??? wat is that all all about.
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A New Start
Laakdown congratulations.
I was glad to hear that EFT in the US is doing well, as I have applied recently for their JAA PPL Course, plus night rating. I will be starting this coming February and I’m wondering if there are any other wannabe who are going over there in this same period?
After a long evaluation with my wife, I finally made the decision to realize my dream of becoming a pilot at the age of 42. I was glade to read in a recent thread on this forum that many before me have made the same decision and are flying at the moment somewhere in the world. Therefore after a lot of research and preparation I know it is possible, even if it is going to be a long journey. I have chosen for the modular way allowing me, hopefully, to keep the expenses under control. I can’t wait to get in the air this coming February!
I was glad to hear that EFT in the US is doing well, as I have applied recently for their JAA PPL Course, plus night rating. I will be starting this coming February and I’m wondering if there are any other wannabe who are going over there in this same period?After a long evaluation with my wife, I finally made the decision to realize my dream of becoming a pilot at the age of 42. I was glade to read in a recent thread on this forum that many before me have made the same decision and are flying at the moment somewhere in the world. Therefore after a lot of research and preparation I know it is possible, even if it is going to be a long journey. I have chosen for the modular way allowing me, hopefully, to keep the expenses under control. I can’t wait to get in the air this coming February!
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Hi all,
Did some hours building and the CPL with EFT, although it was in 2005, always flew twice a day, the weather was more of a problem than any breakdowns.
Trevor and the team, were great and with their help got a first time pass CPL.
And now a few years later on, drilling holes in the sky with a 757!
M.
Did some hours building and the CPL with EFT, although it was in 2005, always flew twice a day, the weather was more of a problem than any breakdowns.
Trevor and the team, were great and with their help got a first time pass CPL.
And now a few years later on, drilling holes in the sky with a 757!
M.
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EFT - Highly Recommended !
EFT is a very good school, with some good JAA instructors to match. The planes are kept well maintained. In October I managed 40hours in under 2 weeks - only once did I not fly due to an aircraft being squawked and no others being available. I had previously only flew in the US however, my transition to my IR Conversion course here in the UK was smooth and this again can only be a testament to my previous training.
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Be very wary of recommendations by people with 1 or 2 posts to their name.
i have no opinion on the school, as I've never been there, but I don't buy these accounts that seem to be created in the sole purpose of bigging up an FTO.
i have no opinion on the school, as I've never been there, but I don't buy these accounts that seem to be created in the sole purpose of bigging up an FTO.
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Its a real shame that EFT have managed to create so much negative comments on here considering it does seem overall to be a good set up.It also shows that it can be a long time for a school to shed a bad reputation,whether justified or not, power of pprune i suppose!
From what i have read on here its down to a combination of a staff member who worked in administration ripping off the school without their knowlege and the poor response of the school dealing with students who were owed money as a result. Is seems from some comments posted on this forum that some students still have a outstanding issue with this and it would be interesting to see how EFT are dealing with it if as posted, some are still owed money. I for one have considered EFT for my commercial training but it is these problems that have made me think twice about parting with any money to a school with this sort of reputation.
Would be interesting to hear any recent experiences and factual comments about this flight school. I do take into account representatives from the school who have had the courtesy to reply on here, it does sound like they have had a bit of a raw deal as well as some of the students. Fact remains that it was a employee of the company that ripped everybody off and the FTO has to take resposibility for that.
From what i have read on here its down to a combination of a staff member who worked in administration ripping off the school without their knowlege and the poor response of the school dealing with students who were owed money as a result. Is seems from some comments posted on this forum that some students still have a outstanding issue with this and it would be interesting to see how EFT are dealing with it if as posted, some are still owed money. I for one have considered EFT for my commercial training but it is these problems that have made me think twice about parting with any money to a school with this sort of reputation.
Would be interesting to hear any recent experiences and factual comments about this flight school. I do take into account representatives from the school who have had the courtesy to reply on here, it does sound like they have had a bit of a raw deal as well as some of the students. Fact remains that it was a employee of the company that ripped everybody off and the FTO has to take resposibility for that.
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Be positive
Hi guys, I think that at a certain moment a school who as always had a very good reputation should be given the benefit of the doubt. It is not because of one staff member that everything now suddenly has turned for the bad. I don’t believe that! Sure there are some loose ends, but we are not aware of all the facts to give a proper opinion. Since my application at EFT, everybody that I have spoken to by phone or e-mail has been very helpfull and friendly to me. Therefore no complains from my side. As previously stated I will be following in February a JAA PPL Course with them, allowing me to give you in time a honest update. Still, I agree with Hughesyd that recent bad/good experiences are welcome for wannabes like me, who intend to do their training in the US. Cheers!
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40 Hours in 2 Weeks?
Charlie_Mike - are you sure? I was there for a good while and don't remember anyone getting anywhere near 20 hours a week. Not even close. Glad to see things are a lot better now. hmmmmm 
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Hi guys,
I dont post on here very often.... so your lucky to get this.
I trained at EFT up to 2004 - 2006, I arrived at the school with 3 hours in a cessna, and left with JAA CPL I/R and FI. I had never even met a proper pilot before I arrived at EFT. I now fly trans-Atlantic in the RHS of an airbus for a UK operator. My last flight was Heathrow to Atlanta. I funded my own training to my IR then was fortunate enough to have my MCC / Type / Line training paid for by a UK charter.
EFT are a fantastic school. The standard of training is very high, and taken very seriously. Stutent progress is reviewed carefully, and they dont pass you if you are not up to standard - hence sometimes training can take longer due to varying student ability.
Unfortunately in 2007, EFT suffered a tremendous set back due to the actions of the local US admin staff - it had nothing to do with training or british instructors at the school. This was a blow not only to students, but to the owners of the school who were virtually bankrupted by the incident as well.
The school has had to build themselves back from scratch. The instructors are highly experienced and are dedicated to the students they serve. They are there for you - you are not there for them.
nh2301 - You had a bad experience at the school. This was very unfortunate. It was not the experience of hundreds of others like myself.
Its time to stop putting others off and doing additional damage. You have NOTHING to gain by this.
I would have no problems recommending EFT.
Its the best money I ever spent in my life.
I dont post on here very often.... so your lucky to get this.
I trained at EFT up to 2004 - 2006, I arrived at the school with 3 hours in a cessna, and left with JAA CPL I/R and FI. I had never even met a proper pilot before I arrived at EFT. I now fly trans-Atlantic in the RHS of an airbus for a UK operator. My last flight was Heathrow to Atlanta. I funded my own training to my IR then was fortunate enough to have my MCC / Type / Line training paid for by a UK charter.
EFT are a fantastic school. The standard of training is very high, and taken very seriously. Stutent progress is reviewed carefully, and they dont pass you if you are not up to standard - hence sometimes training can take longer due to varying student ability.
Unfortunately in 2007, EFT suffered a tremendous set back due to the actions of the local US admin staff - it had nothing to do with training or british instructors at the school. This was a blow not only to students, but to the owners of the school who were virtually bankrupted by the incident as well.
The school has had to build themselves back from scratch. The instructors are highly experienced and are dedicated to the students they serve. They are there for you - you are not there for them.
nh2301 - You had a bad experience at the school. This was very unfortunate. It was not the experience of hundreds of others like myself.
Its time to stop putting others off and doing additional damage. You have NOTHING to gain by this.
I would have no problems recommending EFT.
Its the best money I ever spent in my life.
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Charlie_Mike - be fair, that 40 hours in two weeks wasn't training as a student now, was it? Not training for a licence or rating.
I presume you are talking "hour building" and renting the aircraft - when it's not being used for training - to go drill holes in the sky, pre CPL.
I presume you are talking "hour building" and renting the aircraft - when it's not being used for training - to go drill holes in the sky, pre CPL.
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Hey what is the reason for us european guys wanting to train here??!!! I have found 4 schoools in 30 minutes. They are in Florida and they offer Integrated for maximum 50 000 euros (everything included like license conversion and food, housing). Their graduates works with Ryanair, BA, Emirates, all the companies that you get here in Europe.
Man I will train there for bloody hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But there isn´t a cath right? Maybe the European doesn´t like American training? The training is JAA and it is specificly for European pilots.
Cheers!!
Man I will train there for bloody hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But there isn´t a cath right? Maybe the European doesn´t like American training? The training is JAA and it is specificly for European pilots.
Cheers!!
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