Is Flying in your blood
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I would not say it's antisocial I met some great people tru flying some which I have become very good friend's. But it is a bit antisocial as toward's family it also pay's to have a very understanding partner to.
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Well I'm a 3rd generation flyer....
Grandfather RAF Sqd Leader (Lancasters WW2... then career RAF)
Dad career BA... think he was originally BOAC via Hamble
Me... the blacksheep as I don't earn a living as a pilot (working on that) but fly for pleasure so still airborne at every opportunity... dunno if its in my blood though
P.S. (oh yeah mum a stewardess etc etc)
Grandfather RAF Sqd Leader (Lancasters WW2... then career RAF)
Dad career BA... think he was originally BOAC via Hamble
Me... the blacksheep as I don't earn a living as a pilot (working on that) but fly for pleasure so still airborne at every opportunity... dunno if its in my blood though
P.S. (oh yeah mum a stewardess etc etc)
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Hiya DD you don't have to be an anorak plane spotter to be a good pilot at any level. If you are passionate about flight as many humans are you would be excited and happy flying a microlight. I have owned aircraft and shares and would add that as others have said before that a pilot when asked what he liked to fly would answer something like "anything I can get my hands on or whatever they let me". 3D motion is a funny thing, many pilots sail and many sailors fly, There is a lot of crossover. As for being in the blood as we are descended from aquatic mammals and not dinosaurs it is unlikely from an evolutionary point of view but I know what you mean. I could never ignore aircraft that interrupted lessons or even work an was only ever motivated to fly above all other things. I am not airline oriented and at 54 am happy flying as FI and using CPL for aerial work when I can in between sailing the coasts of UK. I would have a microlight to play with again but for the cost and limiting weather. I love to fly IMC and at night but after 2500 hrs I am still learning having new experiences and it is more like a drug than anything else. You can give it up but have strong withdrawal symptoms, I know that have had on several occasions since 1975!
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For me... no really huge interest in aviation up until a couple of years ago, now I can't get enough of planes and aviation- my parents have given up on thinking it's a phase- the problem is I feel I can't wait to get up there flying- but I'm still stuck down here on the ground learning for A-levels... how I envy those 744's that fly over my house every morning....
Deep down I always knew I would get a pilot's licence some day, but I ended up following a different career path because at 15 someone told me I couldn't become a pilot unless I was very good at Maths and Physics.
I spent the next 5 years wondering what to do and the following 10 years doing something that I had no real passion for. Then a few horrible things happened to me
and they shocked me into thinking deeply about what I wanted to do with my life.
I then remembered all the model planes I had built, books I had read, magazines I had collected, and air shows I had been to. It was like that moment you recognise a long-lost friend across a crowded room. The memories come flooding back and I realised what I had been missing.
I've always loved airports (
I know, I am odd) and love flying in airliners, despite the lack of legroom 
. Since I've had a PPL I love every minute in the air and time spent at airfields. I also enjoyed all aspects of my training - even the ATPLs. And for the record, I've had few problems with any of the maths and physics! I just wish things would hurry up so I can get paid to fly. 
I spent the next 5 years wondering what to do and the following 10 years doing something that I had no real passion for. Then a few horrible things happened to me
and they shocked me into thinking deeply about what I wanted to do with my life. I then remembered all the model planes I had built, books I had read, magazines I had collected, and air shows I had been to. It was like that moment you recognise a long-lost friend across a crowded room. The memories come flooding back and I realised what I had been missing.
I've always loved airports (
I know, I am odd) and love flying in airliners, despite the lack of legroom . Since I've had a PPL I love every minute in the air and time spent at airfields. I also enjoyed all aspects of my training - even the ATPLs. And for the record, I've had few problems with any of the maths and physics! I just wish things would hurry up so I can get paid to fly.
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ooh nice question. i do definitely think flying is something that comes from within.
to think a pilot must sit through an entire flight every time doing the same procedures for years together and not get bored and complacent. that would be someone who is worthy of being a pilot. its the love.
i would say im pretty sure its in my blood (3rd generation pilot in the family) but i would keep that thought with pride and not let me feel like im the best pilot.
to think a pilot must sit through an entire flight every time doing the same procedures for years together and not get bored and complacent. that would be someone who is worthy of being a pilot. its the love.i would say im pretty sure its in my blood (3rd generation pilot in the family) but i would keep that thought with pride and not let me feel like im the best pilot.
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mmm interesting... for whats its worth i think that its a totally personal thing. Some do it for a career, like any job but the majority do it for the love, passion and a deep down desire that no other job will ever do! How can you explain why you would put yourself through the financial and emotional upheavals and sacrifices to achieve a dream that you didn't love or felt you were destined for?
For me, I come from a aviation background and I was fortunate as a 3 yr old to have my pic taken in the cockpit of a Red Arrow.....from then on i can't remember wanting to do anything else. I tried and even gave up flying for a couple of years for other reasons but became exteremely miserable and despondant....so for me nothing else will do. Flying has taken over my life and I couldn't be happier. Now as a nearly qualified FI, I can share this v.cool life with everyone else!!
For me, I come from a aviation background and I was fortunate as a 3 yr old to have my pic taken in the cockpit of a Red Arrow.....from then on i can't remember wanting to do anything else. I tried and even gave up flying for a couple of years for other reasons but became exteremely miserable and despondant....so for me nothing else will do. Flying has taken over my life and I couldn't be happier. Now as a nearly qualified FI, I can share this v.cool life with everyone else!!
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To be frank , I have never been in a plane before. But i used to go to the airport every weekend, just to look at them for a few hours just to listen the sound of the jets. I did not had any childhood dream to become a pilot ,but when I first played the flight simulator in 98 that changed me entirely, from that time I decided to be a pilot , not an Airline Pilot but as an Instructor.
Even my brother is pilot.
Even my brother is pilot.
Dr. Doom
"PA me thinks you should look into becoming a poet"
here, I rewrote a couple of my prior posts, at the risk of being plagiarized by others--
It's not in the blood, it’s in the heart!!
Some say, aviation’s in the blood—and believe themselves--
It's not in the blood- it's in the heart [although, I may make an exception in the case of C. Yeager or J. Doolittle]!!!
You need love, and heart; devotion and passion---Stay humble!
--The air is NO place for cowards whose hearts are composed of Jell-O—which pump Kool-Aid instead of blood, nor a place for the bold – but maybe the old---as is said-- no ones old and bold- however
My apologies, I didn't paint it up with flowery cute talk--- flying IS a Rough Business!
Aviation is a jealous lover, yet has no love for YOU—
And
there about a million ways to die---Choose one
a little slip of the lip from a busy controller
a little inattention on an instrument approach
a hasty grab for the prop controls---
--- Aviation don’t love you!
In order to fly your ship well-- you must understand your ship well -- quite unlike a stupid-slow -limited ground vehicle--[although, I may make an exception in the case of my ’88 VW]
Notwithstanding the vast number holes one day to align in the Swiss ----Pure obsession is the only way to be on guard against them—I’ve seen madness!!
Yes, I'm very stereotypical and people in my life have learned to accept my obsession with those ladies [and take advantage of it ]--and although overwhelming at times for some--- I do have many other interests—such as aerodynamics---but I write this--
For Aviation has no love for you--- it has no care--- no forgiveness in its heart ---and for the unfaithful it will eventually kill you---I've seen it---Forgive me for speaking for the dead –but listen to those souls they’re just telling you!!!
You don't fly with one hand on your prick and the other on the master switch
You must develop habits of the air and not the ground---as the ground has no use for pilots, yet neither does the air
It loves no-one---in fact it's probably the MOST limiting thing in my life---and the MOST unlimited---avoid them [the limits] [shy torque]
Remember!
That more folks have died on the ground!
So, don’t despair friends---because, even in the history of civil aviation---the most number of SOBs [souls on board] to ever get killed by an air plane---
All died on the Ground!!!
PA
The mountains don't care!
When it come to any talk of 'differences in pilots’---well I’m not a judge, but the mountains don’t care! ---
That’s my answer and I’m sticking to it---
One male Capt and one female Co-pilot were on approach to Colorado springs--- hit sudden shear--A Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
A seven year old girl trying to be the youngest pilot cross country in the world--with her experienced father-- entered IMC--- a Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
A 20,000 hr male pilot with a 7000 hr male FO and male FE entered a rotor cloud near mountains in Africa ---A Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
A female commuter pilot and her FO—EFATO--auto feather fails---- A Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
When does aviation care about YOU? Your race/age/ sexuality/ sex/ experience /talents shortcomings/ passion/experience/ looks etc....
By the way ---it's always a spiral dive into the ground...
And
We Are All Subject To The Mountains Friends!!!
PA
"PA me thinks you should look into becoming a poet"
here, I rewrote a couple of my prior posts, at the risk of being plagiarized by others--
It's not in the blood, it’s in the heart!!
Some say, aviation’s in the blood—and believe themselves--
It's not in the blood- it's in the heart [although, I may make an exception in the case of C. Yeager or J. Doolittle]!!!
You need love, and heart; devotion and passion---Stay humble!
--The air is NO place for cowards whose hearts are composed of Jell-O—which pump Kool-Aid instead of blood, nor a place for the bold – but maybe the old---as is said-- no ones old and bold- however
My apologies, I didn't paint it up with flowery cute talk--- flying IS a Rough Business!
Aviation is a jealous lover, yet has no love for YOU—
And
there about a million ways to die---Choose one
a little slip of the lip from a busy controller
a little inattention on an instrument approach
a hasty grab for the prop controls---
--- Aviation don’t love you!
In order to fly your ship well-- you must understand your ship well -- quite unlike a stupid-slow -limited ground vehicle--[although, I may make an exception in the case of my ’88 VW]
Notwithstanding the vast number holes one day to align in the Swiss ----Pure obsession is the only way to be on guard against them—I’ve seen madness!!
Yes, I'm very stereotypical and people in my life have learned to accept my obsession with those ladies [and take advantage of it ]--and although overwhelming at times for some--- I do have many other interests—such as aerodynamics---but I write this--
For Aviation has no love for you--- it has no care--- no forgiveness in its heart ---and for the unfaithful it will eventually kill you---I've seen it---Forgive me for speaking for the dead –but listen to those souls they’re just telling you!!!
You don't fly with one hand on your prick and the other on the master switch
You must develop habits of the air and not the ground---as the ground has no use for pilots, yet neither does the air
It loves no-one---in fact it's probably the MOST limiting thing in my life---and the MOST unlimited---avoid them [the limits] [shy torque]
Remember!
That more folks have died on the ground!
So, don’t despair friends---because, even in the history of civil aviation---the most number of SOBs [souls on board] to ever get killed by an air plane---
All died on the Ground!!!
PA
The mountains don't care!
When it come to any talk of 'differences in pilots’---well I’m not a judge, but the mountains don’t care! ---
That’s my answer and I’m sticking to it---
One male Capt and one female Co-pilot were on approach to Colorado springs--- hit sudden shear--A Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
A seven year old girl trying to be the youngest pilot cross country in the world--with her experienced father-- entered IMC--- a Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
A 20,000 hr male pilot with a 7000 hr male FO and male FE entered a rotor cloud near mountains in Africa ---A Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
A female commuter pilot and her FO—EFATO--auto feather fails---- A Spiral Dive into the Ground--DEAD!
When does aviation care about YOU? Your race/age/ sexuality/ sex/ experience /talents shortcomings/ passion/experience/ looks etc....
By the way ---it's always a spiral dive into the ground...
And
We Are All Subject To The Mountains Friends!!!
PA
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Cirrus Crystal -No, but I share the same passion with that aviator-I'
ve been meaning to read "sand and stars and L'aviateur [en anglais bien sur]
jus' crazy ol' PA
ve been meaning to read "sand and stars and L'aviateur [en anglais bien sur]
jus' crazy ol' PA
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in the blood....
Talking of convertables. I know a friend who is a train driver but mad about aircraft/ Gliding ..anything with wings. He was repremanded for missing a Train station 'cos he was staring up at a Glider beating up and down on a wavebar (lenticular for the ATPL's).
Now that's in the Blood !
..choo choo..
Now that's in the Blood !
..choo choo..
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Pure obsession is the only way to be on guard against them
What utter toss
It's a job, pure and simple. Do it well and thoroughly, then go home and forget about it til the next report.
that 12000 hr [X-15] test pilot who just didn't update the wx while in a C-182-- he was an aerosexual too---A spiral dive into the ground -dead!
I said there's NO love!
I said there's NO love!
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Its the ride
I was lucky to get a CFI job which involved IFR, acro, seaplanes, etc and got into freight. As I look back, there are several observations:
1. I should have read fewer glory stories and more of the technical manuals
and weather books.
2. I love the planes more than flying. They are works of art in every sense.
3. I think flying is a better hobby than a career IF you have a decent career to pay for it. I have told several relatively happy and successful engineers to stay put and not try to fly for a living. I would do that myself. But it takes the right job.
4. The jet job I have now is fun, but I have no life. That gets much harder as you get older. Too many missed birthdays, etc.
5. I would not trade my view of the weather for any other job. The view is the best part.
6. I worked very hard for what I have. But don't go climbing that ladder of success and find out it's leaning against the wrong building. Good luck!
1. I should have read fewer glory stories and more of the technical manuals
and weather books.
2. I love the planes more than flying. They are works of art in every sense.
3. I think flying is a better hobby than a career IF you have a decent career to pay for it. I have told several relatively happy and successful engineers to stay put and not try to fly for a living. I would do that myself. But it takes the right job.
4. The jet job I have now is fun, but I have no life. That gets much harder as you get older. Too many missed birthdays, etc.
5. I would not trade my view of the weather for any other job. The view is the best part.
6. I worked very hard for what I have. But don't go climbing that ladder of success and find out it's leaning against the wrong building. Good luck!