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If you are spending that amount of money don't just assume they are all pricey! Do your research at other flightschools as well. PTC is very, very expensive for what they offer, which is essentially modular dressed up as integrated. You can do modular cheaper elsewhere! The PTC open day is not that excellent compared to others and you must attend other flightschools to get a feel of what else is on offer.
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Need to just grit the teeth, pick somewhere that isn't a shack that could close down in a few weeks and has good instructors that will teach you good things about flying, and literally just get it done.
5 years down the road in whatever job you won't be looking back thinking "God I wish i went to Oxford instead of PTC" or somesuch.
no matter what school you go to theres gonna be problems and people like you drag king, are the type to whine about it. In the end, choose whatever school you want but the grass is still gonna seem greener on the other side.
Hi there. I was at the PTC open day aswell and thought it was excellent. I still have not done my leaving cert but am more than likely going to train to be an airline pilot. Course a bit pricey but sure they all are. A good day and well worth getting up at 5:45
You're right as far as the marketing goes though, all schools are as bad as each other....but there's better options out there than PTC and their EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND EURO.
If you are spending that amount of money don't just assume they are all pricey! Do your research at other flightschools as well. PTC is very, very expensive for what they offer, which is essentially modular dressed up as integrated. You can do modular cheaper elsewhere! The PTC open day is not that excellent compared to others and you must attend other flightschools to get a feel of what else is on offer.
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Dragking....if you did'nt go to PTC then why are you here telling people its a bad idea. Let the people who are doing/have done the course give some advice. Your just speculating and repeating rumours that have been spread. Ill be the first to stand up and say that PTC is'nt the best but to be honest, you have no experience with them. (Sorry if i offend.....im in a bad mood with the atpl's
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Dragking....if you did'nt go to PTC then why are you here telling people its a bad idea. Let the people who are doing/have done the course give some advice. Your just speculating and repeating rumours that have been spread. Ill be the first to stand up and say that PTC is'nt the best but to be honest, you have no experience with them.
You rush to keybord too quickly kid! Think FAST, but TALK slowly and more than that THINK FIRST, ACT AFTER!
(Sorry if i offend.....im in a bad mood with the atpl's)
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Please, avoid reminding me that it is a distance-learning course, I know that already but it means NOTHING apart saving money on staff/resources by PTC!
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"They have connections with Aer arann, Flybe, ryanair, aerlingus,futuragael and a few others"
Is this what PTC tell you before you hand over the 95,000 euro required for the course??
I dont understand the training costs in 95,000 euro and you dont even get an MCC! For the same price maybe 5000 above I have completed all my training (Modular) and MCC all here in Ireland and thats INCLUDING the money put away for a type rating with an airline!!
Yes PTC have an appealing website etc but how much different are they to other MODULAR schools?? I have done my training in Cork all with Instructors who are airline pilots or experienced and the standard of training was excellent and for a fraction of the price!
Im not saying there is anything at fault with PTC and its college however people who are under the impression they are going to get an airline job because they pay 95,000 euro are very naive! remember people there is no guarantees! I think people need to shop around a bit more before throwing away alot of money on an outrageously expensive course!!
"They have connections with Aer arann, Flybe, ryanair, aerlingus,futuragael and a few others"
Is this what PTC tell you before you hand over the 95,000 euro required for the course??
I dont understand the training costs in 95,000 euro and you dont even get an MCC! For the same price maybe 5000 above I have completed all my training (Modular) and MCC all here in Ireland and thats INCLUDING the money put away for a type rating with an airline!!
Yes PTC have an appealing website etc but how much different are they to other MODULAR schools?? I have done my training in Cork all with Instructors who are airline pilots or experienced and the standard of training was excellent and for a fraction of the price!
Im not saying there is anything at fault with PTC and its college however people who are under the impression they are going to get an airline job because they pay 95,000 euro are very naive! remember people there is no guarantees! I think people need to shop around a bit more before throwing away alot of money on an outrageously expensive course!!
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Drag king..wheres EIWT?
As far as EIWT is concerned YOU tell me where it is, you dumbass!
What does it mean "wheres"?
As someone said...
Think before you type your waffle!
Enjoy rainy IRL, windy EIWF, crowded EIWT, storm-battered EICK and wherever your FI is gonna take you. You don't sound smart enough to manage to go anywhere solo.
I am going back to my Jepp's Airport Directory...
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Well dragking...........as i see it theres no point in being a fair weather pilot as yourself and befor you start saying that i did some flying in florida, you should know i got my ppl in Irl
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as i see it theres no point in being a fair weather pilot as yourself and befor you start saying that i did some flying in florida, you should know i got my ppl in Irl
Nevermind.keep posting propaganda on behalf of PTC kid, you might end up on the wall-of-fame or in one of their glossy flyers if not on the website...Me, I got my moments of glory already!!!
Make sure you do a nice job, don't waste dad's money OK?
For those interested in this thread's subject, well...I think you might have figured out by now!
Don't forget where your VRPs are around EIWF, just in case WX catches you out!!!
DK
Hi there
DragKing is, for the most part, quite right.PTC is very,very overpriced for Modular pretending to be integrated.It most certainly is possible to get all the ratings and the MCC for much less than E95K.EIWF is a nice airport to fly out of but they are as subject to Ireland's weather as anyone else.PTC are also suffering from a high turnover of instructors, just like the other schools.PTC's claims need to be taken with a pinch of salt, just like the claims of every other school.As for PTCs claims to be "connected" to airlines, well, that's the good old Irish version of the Old Pals' Act.Hypothically speaking, of course,it "helps" your application to do your MCC at a certain MCC supplier to get a sim-check at a certain Irish airline, who might possibly have senior personnel who might possibly share the ownership of the MCC supplier.Possibly.Hypothetically speaking, of course.Just like it is alleged in bars frequented by pilots that a certain Irish airline favours pilots who wear brown shoes, supplied to members of a very exclusive flying club.Possibly.
This is Ireland,for ****'s sake.It's a banana republic with no sunshine(except in the Sunny South-East, of course)
regards
TDD
DragKing is, for the most part, quite right.PTC is very,very overpriced for Modular pretending to be integrated.It most certainly is possible to get all the ratings and the MCC for much less than E95K.EIWF is a nice airport to fly out of but they are as subject to Ireland's weather as anyone else.PTC are also suffering from a high turnover of instructors, just like the other schools.PTC's claims need to be taken with a pinch of salt, just like the claims of every other school.As for PTCs claims to be "connected" to airlines, well, that's the good old Irish version of the Old Pals' Act.Hypothically speaking, of course,it "helps" your application to do your MCC at a certain MCC supplier to get a sim-check at a certain Irish airline, who might possibly have senior personnel who might possibly share the ownership of the MCC supplier.Possibly.Hypothetically speaking, of course.Just like it is alleged in bars frequented by pilots that a certain Irish airline favours pilots who wear brown shoes, supplied to members of a very exclusive flying club.Possibly.
This is Ireland,for ****'s sake.It's a banana republic with no sunshine(except in the Sunny South-East, of course)
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I agree with TDD on this one regarding PTC,
I think people need to see whats on offer before deciding to spend alot of money on a course that is very similar to any other MODULAR courses in Ireland and the rest of Europe, I think PTC are aiming for a customer base of students who have just finished there leaving cert etc and are basically ripping people off as explained earlier compared to other schools, for the sake of 40k I think its worth going away and sorting your own training out, yes there is a bit more involved in it but who cares its 40k in your pocket rather than PTC!!
Lets face it people Ryanair taking on 400+ cadets in 2008, Aer Arann recruiting as well along with alot of other airlines in Europe so PTC or no PTC the jobs are out there no matter what school your in and everyone is in with a chance so don't let PTC and there "connections" for 95k lead you astray from the simple fact that there course is a rip off!!
If someone can come on this thread and prove me wrong about PTC and there training costs then I shall stand corrected!
I think people need to see whats on offer before deciding to spend alot of money on a course that is very similar to any other MODULAR courses in Ireland and the rest of Europe, I think PTC are aiming for a customer base of students who have just finished there leaving cert etc and are basically ripping people off as explained earlier compared to other schools, for the sake of 40k I think its worth going away and sorting your own training out, yes there is a bit more involved in it but who cares its 40k in your pocket rather than PTC!!
Lets face it people Ryanair taking on 400+ cadets in 2008, Aer Arann recruiting as well along with alot of other airlines in Europe so PTC or no PTC the jobs are out there no matter what school your in and everyone is in with a chance so don't let PTC and there "connections" for 95k lead you astray from the simple fact that there course is a rip off!!
If someone can come on this thread and prove me wrong about PTC and there training costs then I shall stand corrected!
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Real nice dragking.....that chip on your shoulder must have a chip on its shoulder i reckon.
Lets face it people Ryanair taking on 400+ cadets in 2008, Aer Arann recruiting as well along with alot of other airlines in Europe so PTC or no PTC the jobs are out there no matter what school your in and everyone is in with a chance so don't let PTC and there "connections" for 95k lead you astray from the simple fact that there course is a rip off!!
for the sake of 40k I think its worth going away and sorting your own training out, yes there is a bit more involved in it but who cares its 40k in your pocket rather than PTC!!
) and so on. They also have "connections" in case you need.Regards
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Well dragking. Im starting to get tired of this myself but i'll say it once again. Im not promoting nor am i bashing PTC. Im giving my opinion about the college that i train at. Im sure that was what the thread was about was it not? And just so you know, ive saved MY money for the course. If daddy had the money for it i wouldnt be fighting with the bankman everytime i need money.
And just so you know, ive saved MY money for the course. If daddy had the money for it i wouldnt be fighting with the bankman everytime i need money.
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If PTC are so bad why have Flight Safety International, the biggest and most reputable flight training organisation in the world who, can have their pick of who to work with, associated themselves with PTC to form PTC Florida. This was done so the weather will no longer be a factor.
Drag King or is it Queen? haven't you got anything more constructive to do with your time? If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, just hours in the log book does not get you jobs....proper, monitered training, with the associated knowledge does. PTC does have a reputation with the recruiters of the airlines mentioned for producing the above average student and they do ask for recommendations.
It is very hard work at PTC, you are tested all the time and if you are a whingy f***w*t you wouldn't get through anyway. Don't you realise Drag KING (queen) what an arse you are making of yourself. If there is something to be genuinely criticised with a company a few well chosen words usually does the trick whereas your points are lost as it becomes obvious you have an obsessional axe to grind.
As for instructors, two also fly private jets and one turbine in the real world. The turnover is nothing like as high as in most schools.
Aviation is an unstable business and things do go wrong, Fuel prices go up aircraft go tech, mistakes are made, wx is bad, so what? go and work in Tesco if you don't like it.
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Drag King or is it Queen? haven't you got anything more constructive to do with your time? If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, just hours in the log book does not get you jobs....proper, monitered training, with the associated knowledge does. PTC does have a reputation with the recruiters of the airlines mentioned for producing the above average student and they do ask for recommendations.
It is very hard work at PTC, you are tested all the time and if you are a whingy f***w*t you wouldn't get through anyway. Don't you realise Drag KING (queen) what an arse you are making of yourself. If there is something to be genuinely criticised with a company a few well chosen words usually does the trick whereas your points are lost as it becomes obvious you have an obsessional axe to grind.
As for instructors, two also fly private jets and one turbine in the real world. The turnover is nothing like as high as in most schools.
Aviation is an unstable business and things do go wrong, Fuel prices go up aircraft go tech, mistakes are made, wx is bad, so what? go and work in Tesco if you don't like it.
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they do ask for recommendations.
Other schools in Ireland have just as many connections with airlines but don't hike up there prices by 50%.. as for flight safety international, they associate themselves with training providers to do exactly what there name says FLIGHT SAFETY and of course a fee is involved in this association..... so lads and lasses the fee of 95k is still?
UNJUSTIFIED!
It is very hard work at PTC, you are tested all the time
If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, just hours in the log book does not get you jobs....proper, monitered training, with the associated knowledge does
because if it is, there is alot of us monkeys getting jobs in the airlines so next time you walk into a flight deck make sure there is no monkeys flying the airplanes! and of course if there not monkeys then they must have been trained in PTC.