waterford ptc.ya right
 

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hi all
i went to an open day at waterford pilot training college last week,great sales pitch up there,to be fair most of the guys there just started shaving last week so they were not going to ask the lady doing the presenation any hard questions.
she started by saying that 98% of students at waterford get a job with one of the airlines within 2 months of finishing the course,what of the other 2% you may ask instructors of course.
when i asked her if this could be true low hour guys getting the jobs ahead of guys with 1500hrs,yes of course they do because waterford ptc is so well connected.
any one out there believe this plus feedback from anyone who attended waterford.:eek:

well iv never heard of them before, thats interesting for a school that is so "well connected"

Considering that the other schools, OAA, FTE and CTC being the biggest claim 98% within 6 months i somewhat doubt that 98% get a job within 2 months unless they have 5 people graduate per month:}

I suppose its possible, id be dubious but thats me.

good luck
Nick

Im a student of PTC and i do have to agree that the sales pitch is a good one. As regards getting a job within 2 months, they're not far off it. They have connections with Aer arann, Flybe, ryanair, aerlingus, futuragael and a few others. Basically what happens is the airlines come to them looking for the best of the best and PTC recommend you for an interview if you fit into this category. Your not gauranteed a job but to be honest, most people i know who went before me were offered jobs quite quickly. However, if you want to be recomended to an airline by PTC i would work my a** off because of the volume of students out there.
If you have questions about PTC, just pm me. Ive been through and am still going through the highs and lows of the college.:}

how do u find it? im still juggling all the possibilities at the minute....waterford being that bit closer to home than england/aus!

Realistically, how much would i need to complete the course and live comfortably?

95,000 euro for an interview. No thanks.

Do they? Or is just AerArann, FR, FlyBE (not Flybe...if u mispell the name of your potential company I can GUARANTEE you WON'T get a job with them...:E) doing they roadshow as they do in ANY other FTO, OAT, FTE to name a few?

Elaborate pls, sounds interesting...:{


Now we're talking business!

DK ;)

drag king

Do you mean flybe? Perhaps you should research their website for the approved branding. Either way, the spelling is accurate :}.

No dear cabbie, I mean FlyBE or Flybe as per website...:E Pls, note that NOWHERE (apart from a/c livery) their press release spells "flybe". Take a second look.

Regards

DK ;)

Do the jobs people get require you to pay for your own type? It's not as much risk for an employer to say go off and get your type and the job is yours - don't get it you eat the costs. I could be way off of course I'm 3,500 miles away!

Individual graduates of a flight school obtaining employment with any given airline does not mean that the school has "connections" with the airline. If you want to work for someone like flybe there are enough ways to get through the front door via "sponsored" courses.

Now people, lets not start a thread about how to spell names of airlines.:} (Eventhough im right:E). The topic at hand is PTC. Yes it is an expensive course and all that but you do get some advantages. Your in the south east of ireland which gets the best weather which is a plus for those of you who dont want to move abroad right away. You get a great level of training from FSI when you go to do your ppl and hour building. In my experience, one of the best schools around. (I studied elsewhere for my ppl before i came to waterford)

Yes there are enough ways to get into an airline but dont you think it helps if your recommended by a training facility?:}

Would you mind stop QUOTING PTC's website? If I need some propaganda I can help myself...:E

WX in EIWT sucks as everywhere else in IRL, if you have to do a 0 to CPL there it will cost you a fortune and you might have to retire before you reach it. PTC mated with FSA for a good reason...

Wow, that's life experience indeed! However I've been into 5 (five) different places both in JAA land and across the pond I think I can judge from a fairly better prospective. The truth is that ALL school are the same: they ALL say THEY are the BEST!

Yes but bare in mind that they MIGHT guarantee you an INTERVIEW, not a JOB. In other words a very nice marketing tool, nothing else!

Best wishes for you flying in the "sunny" south-east...I'll be watching it closely...:E

DK ;)

:mad:Fine....we can sit here all day arguing about how one school is better than the other but lets face it........no matter what school you go to theres gonna be problems and people like you drag king, are the type to whine about it. In the end, choose whatever school you want but the grass is still gonna seem greener on the other side.

Well said deltaxray.
Need to just grit the teeth, pick somewhere that isn't a shack that could close down in a few weeks and has good instructors that will teach you good things about flying, and literally just get it done.

5 years down the road in whatever job you won't be looking back thinking "God I wish i went to Oxford instead of PTC" or somesuch.

Exactly:ok:

Plus the MCC costs before you go for the interview, I doubt that comes up too much during the sales pitch.

Homerjay is correct. While browsing their propaganda nothing is said about the extra cost of the MCC. When I downloaded the brochure and went to the last page of 13 pages, it had what is not included in the price (one of which was MCC). It does not say what simulator, hours and price of this MCC. I guess you get to the end of your training and you have to pay for the MCC with the company they want to do it with (Parc Aviation).

Can anyone tell me the price of a quality MCC course? I want to add that to the €85K (that includes interview;)).

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Sure the MCC is nothing to do with PTC. They give you your fATPL, if you sign up for that course. The MCC is a seperate certificate that airlines want you to have. PTC recommend you doing it in Parc and it's 8 days long I think and costs 5k if I recall correctly. You pay this to Parc, not PTC.

Look I'm not some pro-PTC head, I just don't like the instant attacks of negativity that are sometimes rife around here and do nothing but make people feel bad and put off.

Yes, they're a flight school, and they market like whores on that website and will tell you aaaall you want to hear to get that 85k off you... but lads this is a flight school. What the flip do you expect? :ugh: Caveat emptor applies nowhere more importantly than when learning to fly. Problem is most learn this after they've signed up somewhere. Myself guilty as charged too :}

Gets ya flyin. Gets ya done.

They give you the frozen atpl alright, but the main incentive is that they get you the interview, which is not worth doing until you do the MCC course.

I see your point but I just get annoyed at the money they are asking for. I also know someone in the middle of the training and he was baffled as to how they could justify the price. It was 75k when I first enquired and when I followed up a few months later it was 85k. :mad:

You're right as far as the marketing goes though, all schools are as bad as each other....but there's better options out there than PTC and their EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND EURO.

Open Day
 

Hi there. I was at the PTC open day aswell and thought it was excellent. I still have not done my leaving cert but am more than likely going to train to be an airline pilot. Course a bit pricey but sure they all are. A good day and well worth getting up at 5:45:D:D