'One Stop' Training

[jono1978]

Hi,

Looking for some advice from existing airliner pilots/people with knowledge of recruitment for airliner pilots.

Is it correct that most airliner employers look for no more than 2 different FTO's (one stop training) in a prospective employees training history.

Obviousely it is useful to find this out before embarking on any training. Is this peoples experience or are there alot of pilots out there that have done bits and pieces in a number of different places and still gained sucessful employment.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks

John

[maxdrypower]

I can speak on behalf of a friend , he did his ppl and hour build in South Africa his groundschhool at london met and is cpl ir at bournemouth , he got a job with xl on 767 with no probs

[JonathanB]

Ian Cheese from flybe on Saturday certainly said that no more than 2 FTOs for commercial flight training was what he wanted. See my post on the thread on the Flyer Exhibition for more info.

[SILENT_BADGER]

I did my Groundschool at CATS, CPL/IR at PAT and a Type Rating at GECAT. I'm now with Monarch. I was asked where I did things and why I chose those institutions, so its worth having good reasons. However, I think Flybe is relatively particular about continuity of training but its not a view universally shared.

So I would always visit the places you have on your shortlist, talk to people who've been there and choose them on how you feel you'd do there. (unless you only want to work for Flybe in which case you should probably go with Cabair)

[Swede80]

As long as airlines aren't paying for people's training they shouldn't give a damn about where it was done.

[BlueRobin]

In the UK, FlyBe (Ian Cheese) to my knowledge are the only airline who vocally admit to a "one-stop shop" recruitment policy.

[JonathanB]

Vocally at least, yes... however he made some very good points about the quality and consistency of managing your own training vs. having an "expert" (i.e. one school) manage it for you.

[scroggs]

As long as airlines aren't paying for people's training they shouldn't give a damn about where it was done.

While most don't actually 'give a damn' where it was done, they are often (and reasonably) concerned about how it was done. But hey, you're paying for it, you do what you like...

Scroggs

[Turbine King]

Silent Badger

It would be interesting to know what Monarch thought of each stage of your training

Did you pass all first time at CATS? Did they teach more than required that helped you later?

PAT how was that?

and lastly GECAT - same question as above really

[Swede80]

How will they know "how" it was done then? Expensive place=Good, Cheap place=Bad??

[vectis lady]

so does that mean they want you to do all training incl groundschool at one place? i had decided on bristol, and was looking at bcft / atlantic / aeros maybe for cpl/ir - would it be better to do groundschool with bcft or atlantic and have 1 provider for everything?

i assume they dont mind too much where your ppl and hr building took place?

[JonathanB]

The impression I got for the "maximum of 2 providers" was for the commercial training. At this (very early) stage, I'm looking towards Bristol Groundschool and then one provider (possibly full time if I can once I've done the exams) for the CPL, ME/IR and MCC. I don't think PPL and hour building will matter too much.

I'm also going to try and structure my own hour building as much as possible with practicing Navigation and DR techniques and honing them up in preparation for the CPL.

[Finals19]

The impression I got from Ian Cheese when he stated "two providers for your commercial training" was that he meant training beyond ground school?

This therefore could mean an alliance like OFT/Cabair, MFC/Cabair, and other FTO's that combine with an overseas training provider for part of the CPL or IR?

There is a lot to be said for doing the IR in particular in the UK, purely because of the airspace structure and the familiarity you will have with it. The CPL is not so much of an issue - you will learn all the airspace structure you need to know with the IR.

[vectis lady]

JonathanB - thats pretty much what i was planning, i can appreciate that having 4/5 schools wouldnt give you the best continuity of training,

was anything mentioned abt doing training abroad? i have considered a few schools in canada but its not worth the saving if it lowers your chances of getting a job