Degree Courses with Aviation Studies (Leeds, Liverpool, London Metropolitan etc)

[Mo91]

Thanks again

"Pilot training is provided to the level of PPL by Northern Aviation based at Durham Tees Valley Airport"
I have quoted this from the above website. This surely doesn't mean that they will fund your PPL does it? I'm sorry I'm just a young lad who needs some help so appropriate responses would be appreciated. I'm guessing that all they mean by that is that they teach you all the theory for the PPL license, correct me if I'm worng please.
Thanks in advance
Mohammed

[scruggs]

Hi,

As far as I am aware they only teach the theory.

eP.

[Mo91]

Great!!!

Thanks again. Thats what I thought! Anyone with details about Plymouth University?

[edymonster]

London Metropolitan do a degree in Managment and Operations whihc include your PPL and ATPL studies

[Kerosine]

UCAS

This is a link to the site that lists the Unis doing aerospace related topics (you can see which ones are 'with pilot studies' etc)

http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsr...SPACE&single=N



Dave



Edited jan 07

Link doesnt work.

Go onto www.ucas.com
Go on 'courses' on left menu
go to '2007' or whatever year in the centre of the screen.
then click 'subject search'
Then choose Aerospace Engineering or Aviation to see a list of courses

[combineharvester]

At the Leeds University course you used to get £1500 as a bursary towards the PPL (which is the mininum hours required 40 Aircraft 5 sim) the rest is covered by the student. So if you go over hours, which is the case with many it will be at your own expense. I believe this bursary will eventually be phased out.
The PPL theory is taught at the university, but usually by some if not all of the instructors that will be teaching you the flying syllabus. The flying is split into two sessions. Session 1 is completed in the summer holidays between year 1 + 2 of the course. Session 2 is timetabled into 2nd Year alongside university studies.
There is no flying timetabled for Level 3. (but it has happened)
Apart from the general university material covered to satisfy the schools core requirements for the grant of a BSc, there are modules taught by external lecturers. These are of extreme value to those who wish to further their training after graduation and include Crew Resource Management & Flight Planning
Any further questions on the leeds course PM me or ask me here, I was on the inaugural intake and after my fATPL instructed on the course this summer, so im reasonably in the know about it, if nothing else in life
hope this helps
ch

[Mo91]

Thank you

Thanks, I really need information now on the University in Plymouth. All help would be most appreciated

[euromann]

combineharvester,

As you have instructed on the Leeds University course I would be grateful if you could clear up an area of confusion for me. I'm considering applying onto the course this year but I have received contradicting information on how the actual flight training is carried out. In one area of the Leeds university website it states that the flying is conducted through Northern Aviation in Teeside but on another it states that it is done through Leeds Flying School? Could you tell me which of these is correct and if indeed it is to be done at Teeside how the university plans to get the students there in the first place. Also could you tell me if the flying instructors are University Instructors who only be instructing the university students or are they Northern/Leeds instructors who will have other students on the books at the same time. Finally, during your time instructing for this course and in fact studying on it, in your opinion how would you rate the course on a whole in terms of the flying side and the actual university based side?

Thanks in advance

euromann

[combineharvester]

euromann,
The current 1st year (those who started university september 2006) Are to be taught by Northern aviation based at Durham Tees Valley. I spent a week instructing up there as well (not teaching university students) and the facilities and procedures in place there seem well prepared for when the students arrive in a few months. The current second year (2005 intake) were upto the end of the summer (when i concluded my employment there) being taught by Leeds Flying School based at Sandtoft Aerodrome (45 mins away) In terms of value on the course, i found there were several subjects studied that were of benefit during my subsequent ATPL studies. namely the ones taught by the external lecturers mentioned in my above post. As a university instructor, i only taught university students, we all however would do the occasional bit of instructing for a neighbouring school, but never at the deference of the university programme
Leeds is also an excellent university town, you will enjoy the play side of uni very much there. Any other questions give me a shout
Ian

[combineharvester]

Glad to see the students i taught will be looked after from now on!

[Kerosine]

This is a link to the site that lists the Unis doing aerospace related topics (you can see which ones are 'with pilot studies' etc)

http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsr...SPACE&single=N



Dave

Edited jan 07

Link doesnt work.

Go onto www.ucas.com
Go on 'courses' on left menu
go to '2007' or whatever year in the centre of the screen.
then click 'subject search'
Then choose Aerospace Engineering or Aviation to see a list of courses.

Dave

[euromann]

Hope i'm not missing out on something really obvious here but who is Ian Richards?

[combineharvester]

Ian R is the Chief Flying Instructor of the Leeds University course, he has been instructing on the course since its conception, indeed he taught me to fly! and subsequently became my boss when i returned to teach. A nicer or shorter man you would struggle to meet!

[hobbit1983]

Kingston

I'm planning to attend this course in 18 months (after I've passed the ATPLS) - http://www.kingston.ac.uk/aviation/ (I've spoken to the admissions people - they say this is possible to do).

i'm aware that this is probably, academically, not a strong a degree as others. But then, I don't have the aptitude or desire to be an engineer, and also think it's probably more worthwhile than a degree in the "underwater basket weaving" category.

Is anyone else planning on enrolling onto the one-year top up degree course at Kingston once they've got a frozen ATPL? If so...what did you think?

Any learned members out there who are involved in degree accreditation/graduate employment etc, would very much like to hear your views.

Thanks

[cedmondson684]

Aviation Related Academic Qualification

I am currently a holder of a JAR-FCL(A) CPL, Single Pilot Multi-Engine Instrument Rating, ATPL Theory Credits and FI Rating. I am trying to find an aviation related academic or vocational qualification that recognises and credits prior learning towards most, if not all, of the course. I have had limited luck with various universities re their FDSc in Aviation studies.

Has anyone had any experience with this?

[MrsMuggins]

Is a Uni course good enough?

My son is looking at all the various ways of becoming a pilot - we've read the threads about which school is best! - but he's also looking at the course at Bucks Chilterns University College "Air Transport Studies with Commercial Pilot Training". Has anyone heard of a graduate from this course actually getting a job? Is it regarded as "proper" training? They use Cabair for the actual pilot training so I guess it should be, but one thing we have found from reading the forum posts is that the competition for jobs is fierce and I'd hate my son's chances to be hampered by going for "sub-standard" training...

[Groundloop]

"Bucks Chilterns University College "Air Transport Studies with Commercial Pilot Training". Has anyone heard of a graduate from this course actually getting a job?"

I'm not sure if the course has been running long enough for anyone to have graduated yet. I think the first group of students are now in the final year.

[zuluflyer]

city university

has anyone studided the air transport operations with pilot studies at city and i was wondering if u could tell me more about it and if it is a good course also how long does it take to become a captain i was thinking 6 years is this reality

[snoopy122]

Hey there. I've heard of city's programme, but I'm not attending it.
The usual time for an ATPL course is around 1.5 to 2 years. If you're lucky enough to find a job immediatly afterwards it takes around 8 years to become a captain. So if you start tomorrow and everything goes great for you, I get to call you captain in around 10 years. This differs for every airline.

I've heard the ATPL programme at city takes 3 years. If you have any more specific questions let us know.

[revilo_rehsif]

Hey zuluflyer
Im currently on the Air Transport operations course at city, im currently in my first year at the moment. If you have any questions or queries dont hesitate to ask either on the forum or pm me.
regards

Revilo