Degree Courses with Aviation Studies (Leeds, Liverpool, London Metropolitan etc)
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Originally Posted by Fladbrokeandbusted
YEEEAAAHHH!!!!
got myself a place to stay now.. 75 pounds
a week incl something to eat in the morning and in the evening... GREAT..
By the way.. does anyone know how long there is between Finchley Road and the metropolitan?
got myself a place to stay now.. 75 pounds
a week incl something to eat in the morning and in the evening... GREAT.. By the way.. does anyone know how long there is between Finchley Road and the metropolitan?
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London Met Uni ATPL Entrance Exam
Hi All,
Title pretty much says it all, I have looke here in the forums, and also on the college website itself to no avail.
I'm looking to speak to anyone who knows about, or has done the entrance exam for the abouve course, what does it involve etc...
This course will hopefully undertaken in conjunction with Stapleford.
Many Thanks in advance,
P206
Title pretty much says it all, I have looke here in the forums, and also on the college website itself to no avail.
I'm looking to speak to anyone who knows about, or has done the entrance exam for the abouve course, what does it involve etc...
This course will hopefully undertaken in conjunction with Stapleford.
Many Thanks in advance,
P206
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Hi P206,
I completed the Entrance Exam back in late August sometime and, if my memory serves me correctly it was in the order of 100 multiple choice questions. The exam was supplied with a Maths/Physics refresher booklet and the vast majority of the questions were based on what was contained within the booklet itself.
My advice would be to have a good flick through of it beforehand, then attempt the exam - most of it was comparable to GCSE level Maths and Physics, nothing too tricky, as well as throwing in some PPL style general knowledge questions. I think the pass mark was 85%, but i'm not certain on that.
Feel free to PM if you have any other queries, hope that's of some use!
Cheers,
Geoff
I completed the Entrance Exam back in late August sometime and, if my memory serves me correctly it was in the order of 100 multiple choice questions. The exam was supplied with a Maths/Physics refresher booklet and the vast majority of the questions were based on what was contained within the booklet itself.
My advice would be to have a good flick through of it beforehand, then attempt the exam - most of it was comparable to GCSE level Maths and Physics, nothing too tricky, as well as throwing in some PPL style general knowledge questions. I think the pass mark was 85%, but i'm not certain on that.
Feel free to PM if you have any other queries, hope that's of some use!
Cheers,
Geoff
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I'm due to start a course there is June. I am very curious to know what other students have found of the atmosphere? How big was the class and age mix/ female:male ratio and the rest!
Might sound like a bit of a silly question, but I was wondering what kind of dress code people have on theory courses - should I bother worrying about looking like an airline pilot ie smart smart casual - shirt and smart trousers or just jeans and a T-shirt?
Want to make the right impression all the way through etc.
Oh and I've PM you about entrance test etc.
Might sound like a bit of a silly question, but I was wondering what kind of dress code people have on theory courses - should I bother worrying about looking like an airline pilot ie smart smart casual - shirt and smart trousers or just jeans and a T-shirt?
Want to make the right impression all the way through etc.
Oh and I've PM you about entrance test etc.
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Hi all,
No problem, well I didn't actually opt to go for the Groundschool with London Met, so i can't comment exactly on class ratios, but from what a couple of friends on my degree course who continued on to the Groundschool have said, the ages vary quite a lot, from say late teens till 30's. I think they get a fair few European students too, there was when I had a look around anyway, so it's good as you get quite a mix. In terms of attire, it's still smart/casual from what i've been told, i'm sure Jeans wouldn't be frowned upon.
Sorry, Varun, i'm afraid i'm not 100% sure if you would be required to undertake the entrance exam, but at a guess I would assume you wouldn't, since you are going through Stapleford i'm sure they would have individual course criteria that you would have to meet anyway and, therefore this should satisfy the Groundschool criteria for London Met, but it might be worth checking!
Hope that's of some use chaps!
All the best,
Geoff
No problem, well I didn't actually opt to go for the Groundschool with London Met, so i can't comment exactly on class ratios, but from what a couple of friends on my degree course who continued on to the Groundschool have said, the ages vary quite a lot, from say late teens till 30's. I think they get a fair few European students too, there was when I had a look around anyway, so it's good as you get quite a mix. In terms of attire, it's still smart/casual from what i've been told, i'm sure Jeans wouldn't be frowned upon.
Sorry, Varun, i'm afraid i'm not 100% sure if you would be required to undertake the entrance exam, but at a guess I would assume you wouldn't, since you are going through Stapleford i'm sure they would have individual course criteria that you would have to meet anyway and, therefore this should satisfy the Groundschool criteria for London Met, but it might be worth checking!
Hope that's of some use chaps!
All the best,
Geoff
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Kingston University Degree and Flying course
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I have been told that Kingston Univesity are going to be offering a course whereby you can gain a degree and an fATPL at the same time. It apparently starts in September 2006 and the information is on their website http://www.kingston.ac.uk/
My problem is that I have been unable to find any information and was wondering if anyone had any info on this or give me a link. Also, does anyone know of anywhere else that offers a similar course?
Cheers
Pilottom
I have been told that Kingston Univesity are going to be offering a course whereby you can gain a degree and an fATPL at the same time. It apparently starts in September 2006 and the information is on their website http://www.kingston.ac.uk/
My problem is that I have been unable to find any information and was wondering if anyone had any info on this or give me a link. Also, does anyone know of anywhere else that offers a similar course?
Cheers
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Hi, here's the link that contains all the info about the kingston degree course in aviationhttp: //www.cabair.com/kingston/index.htm, alternitavley you can go to cabair's website and you'll see it there. I'm actually starting on BA Air Transport with pilot Training at Buckinghamshire chilterns University which is similair to this course whereby you gain a degree and a FATPL in just little as 3 yrs, it's run in conjucntion with Cabir hope this helps..
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I've had a good look at a lot of similar courses, but this one seems really good, because of the option to upgrade to BSc in one year after qualifying as a pilot. But, I would like to know what sort of options would be open to you with this degree if not applying for a position as a pilot?
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London Met MCC
Has anyone any comments regarding the MCC course that is run at the London Metropolitan University, or have been on the course themselves? It is a toss up between them or Parc Aviation in Ireland. Views on both would be appreciated and my apologies if this has been convered before. I am really after comments regarding the quality of training and not the simulator debate (i.e. 737 vs King Air) if that helps!
Cheers!
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Liverpool University - Aerospace Engineering Degree with Pilot Studies.
Answer to Financial Prayers?
After much research into kick starting my career with my PPL, I have come across what appears to be good way of going about it...
The University of Liverpool offer 'Aerospace Engineering with pilot studies'.
Now assuming I wanted to do the degree anyway, the optional pilot studies are subsidised (??), and most financing can be taken out in conjunction with student loans etc (low interest, good repayment terms etc). Over the 3 years you get a degree, PPL and a frozen ATPL.
Is this as rosy as it seems?
What the catch?
The issue isn't about cost, as the degree will obviously make this more expensive, it's about the repayment and having a backup for any other circumstance (a degree!)
Anyone that has any knowledge on this, or has any advice, or anyone that wants to tell me off for not noticing the little thread that sort of, maybe, half covers this topic, please post back.
Thanks all
Dave
After much research into kick starting my career with my PPL, I have come across what appears to be good way of going about it...
The University of Liverpool offer 'Aerospace Engineering with pilot studies'.
Now assuming I wanted to do the degree anyway, the optional pilot studies are subsidised (??), and most financing can be taken out in conjunction with student loans etc (low interest, good repayment terms etc). Over the 3 years you get a degree, PPL and a frozen ATPL.
Is this as rosy as it seems?
What the catch?
The issue isn't about cost, as the degree will obviously make this more expensive, it's about the repayment and having a backup for any other circumstance (a degree!)
Anyone that has any knowledge on this, or has any advice, or anyone that wants to tell me off for not noticing the little thread that sort of, maybe, half covers this topic, please post back.
Thanks all
Dave
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Ooooh errr Mrs..
Right, do you already have a PPL? I don't know very much about this sort of thing, however I would have to assume the 'pilot studdies' bit of the course would just be the ATPL theory course????
If so, you would need a PPL first, assuming you havent already got one. Naturally, post ATPL theory you will need Night rating, CPL, IR etc etc etc etc, the process of which adds up to somewhere in the region of the 50k mark... ish
to get a FROZEN ATPL.
Would be interested to see what the course blurb say's is included as part of the 'pilot studdies' bit. I would have to guess not an awful lot as you will spend most of your time learning about aero engineering... I suppose??
Interseting... I am sure there is someone else who can shed a little more light.....
Right, do you already have a PPL? I don't know very much about this sort of thing, however I would have to assume the 'pilot studdies' bit of the course would just be the ATPL theory course????
If so, you would need a PPL first, assuming you havent already got one. Naturally, post ATPL theory you will need Night rating, CPL, IR etc etc etc etc, the process of which adds up to somewhere in the region of the 50k mark... ish
to get a FROZEN ATPL. Would be interested to see what the course blurb say's is included as part of the 'pilot studdies' bit. I would have to guess not an awful lot as you will spend most of your time learning about aero engineering... I suppose??
Interseting... I am sure there is someone else who can shed a little more light.....
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Thanks for the reply.
I haven't got my PPL yet, but the course does cover your PPL in year 1, then years 2 and 3 you study for ATPL theory annd get your IMC/CPL/IR etc with all the bells and whisles apparently.
The blurb on this is a bit vague unfortunately.
From what I can gather, you have to fork out the large sum for modular training, however maybe tagged onto the student loan.
The specific hour building etc is not included in the syllabus, I think that's done on your own dime in your own time.
The actual degree looks fantastic, I've always been the one that breaks stuff to find out how it works (a habit I must get out of before I fly).
http://www.liv.ac.uk/entryprofiles/H...ecial_Features
Cheers BigAl's!
Dave
I haven't got my PPL yet, but the course does cover your PPL in year 1, then years 2 and 3 you study for ATPL theory annd get your IMC/CPL/IR etc with all the bells and whisles apparently.
The blurb on this is a bit vague unfortunately.
From what I can gather, you have to fork out the large sum for modular training, however maybe tagged onto the student loan.
The specific hour building etc is not included in the syllabus, I think that's done on your own dime in your own time.
The actual degree looks fantastic, I've always been the one that breaks stuff to find out how it works (a habit I must get out of before I fly).
http://www.liv.ac.uk/entryprofiles/H...ecial_Features
Cheers BigAl's!
Dave
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I had a look at something like this. If I remember rightly, you are basically doing a Aerospace Engineering degree and a PPL (which you WILL have to pay for c.£6k) and also ATPL theory I think is included.
Basically, wont be a bad degree if you do it but if you think its going to be a cheap way to a fATPL, its not.
Basically, wont be a bad degree if you do it but if you think its going to be a cheap way to a fATPL, its not.
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I note that the ATPL theory is provided by BGS. Why dont you do a course you like and then do the PPL on the side. Whilst at Uni get involved in all the team building leadership type roles.
When you graduate then you'll be able to crack on with a full time modular/integrated course.
Best of luck in which ever route you take.
L Met
When you graduate then you'll be able to crack on with a full time modular/integrated course.
Best of luck in which ever route you take.
L Met
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As far as my understanding goes, the degree doesn't specificly provide the course, it just allows you to incorporate it into your uni schedule. Costs have to be covered by yourself.
According to the uni...
PPL app. £2750
fATPL course app. £35,000
If these were covered with 'student' loans, there would be much less pressure on repayments/becoming homeless/destitute.
Page 13 and 14 on this PDF has more detail.
http://www.liv.ac.uk/study/undergrad...ngineering.pdf
Dave
According to the uni...
PPL app. £2750
fATPL course app. £35,000
If these were covered with 'student' loans, there would be much less pressure on repayments/becoming homeless/destitute.
Page 13 and 14 on this PDF has more detail.
http://www.liv.ac.uk/study/undergrad...ngineering.pdf
Dave
See
http://www.direct.gov.uk/EducationAn...881&chk=FoAfFe
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Just a bit of info from what i have heard:
1) the degree is hard work, you dont have much free time to laze around as a student. It is different to other degree courses that have few lecture hours a week
2) PPL training fits around the timetable so any free time for coursework/studying/sleeping goes out of the window
3) I dont think you end up with a fATPL, just the PPL and ATPL theory (but double check on this)
4) The degree itself is not any form of a backup, it could be difficult getting a job without any experience due to spending your free time flying
I dont know much about the financing of the course
hope the info helps a bit
1) the degree is hard work, you dont have much free time to laze around as a student. It is different to other degree courses that have few lecture hours a week
2) PPL training fits around the timetable so any free time for coursework/studying/sleeping goes out of the window
3) I dont think you end up with a fATPL, just the PPL and ATPL theory (but double check on this)
4) The degree itself is not any form of a backup, it could be difficult getting a job without any experience due to spending your free time flying
I dont know much about the financing of the course
hope the info helps a bit