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A good start on this is reading the Feedback section in Bristol's JALS Forum. The students there give feedback of the exams quite regulary, sometimes even with (remembered) wording of the new questions.
Just look for post like "February Feedback"...
Just look for post like "February Feedback"...
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If you care, or even notice, then you are going about this in the wrong way! Feedback is a way of practicing applyintg your knowledge to questions of the form you are likely to encounter, not a way of passing the exam by learning what questions are going to come up. It seems that tinmouuse might ahve inadvertanly come across the reason why!
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I've passed my ATPL written for quite some time now ;-) , but I can still remember (besides learning all the relevant stuff) reading feedback being an importand part preparing for it.
The JAA ATPL written suffers from (sometimes) stupid questions, bad or weak wording and inconsistency. Reading feedback help's a lot.
As a pilot I like to prepare (a least trying to) using ANY available ressource, preparing for ANY circumstance, so why doing different when preparing for the written?
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The JAA ATPL written suffers from (sometimes) stupid questions, bad or weak wording and inconsistency. Reading feedback help's a lot.
As a pilot I like to prepare (a least trying to) using ANY available ressource, preparing for ANY circumstance, so why doing different when preparing for the written?
Have Fun
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Agreed.
Some of the questions have the wrong answers chosen by the CAA:
In order to produce an alternating voltage of 400 Hz, the number of pairs of poles required in an AC generator running at 6000 rpm is:
(a) 24
(b) 8
(c) 12
(d) 4
Choose the correct answer and you loose the mark!
CAA answer (d)
Feedback is a must if you ask me.
Some of the questions have the wrong answers chosen by the CAA:
In order to produce an alternating voltage of 400 Hz, the number of pairs of poles required in an AC generator running at 6000 rpm is:
(a) 24
(b) 8
(c) 12
(d) 4
Choose the correct answer and you loose the mark!
CAA answer (d)
Feedback is a must if you ask me.
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Errrrrmmmm ... and the correct answer is (d)!
Watch out though for a question asking for the number of poles, because of course that would be 8 - the sort of trick you will get used to by using feedback, but you don't need to have seen every question!
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Errrrrmmmm ... and the correct answer is (d)!
Watch out though for a question asking for the number of poles, because of course that would be 8 - the sort of trick you will get used to by using feedback, but you don't need to have seen every question!
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I’ve done ten of these exams already now, and most people are aware of the way the CAA ask the questions, which are in misleading English (Word games) – feed back is essential if your going to spot this! It is most frustrating to see a question, and it appears there is no wrong answer, or your chosen answer is wrong, but you know your subject! I could find a great deal answers to questions given by the CAA, that would not be accepted in written form! (Old CAA exams for example). Most of the answers appear abstract to the question. If the CAA wrote the questions properly, the issue with feed back would not be with us.
I do understand that you cannot “learn” all the answers!
If you can answer all the feed back, and work everything out, and understand why you got the answer you have, whats the problem.
I don’t really want to go into the morals of studying through feed back anymore, please! (I’ve got Nav coming up!)
Send Clowns, I got 91 in Law, 87 HPL, FP and Performance not done yet. It appears I'm not going about it the wrong way.
Please don't jump to conclusions! I'm in a ratty mood this afternoon.
With regards to my original question….”I notice that the Bristol question bank for Principles of Flight has new questions in it.
Also when I did the last set of exams in February, they had totally changed the questions in the question bank for Flight Planning, and Human Performance, and Law! None, or very few of the questions, where recognised from feed back in the exam. All new questions! Has anyone any information on this, and where to get the latest feed back”?
Thanks for all your reply’s!
Cheers
Tinmouse.
I do understand that you cannot “learn” all the answers!
If you can answer all the feed back, and work everything out, and understand why you got the answer you have, whats the problem.
I don’t really want to go into the morals of studying through feed back anymore, please! (I’ve got Nav coming up!)
Send Clowns, I got 91 in Law, 87 HPL, FP and Performance not done yet. It appears I'm not going about it the wrong way.
Please don't jump to conclusions! I'm in a ratty mood this afternoon.
With regards to my original question….”I notice that the Bristol question bank for Principles of Flight has new questions in it.
Also when I did the last set of exams in February, they had totally changed the questions in the question bank for Flight Planning, and Human Performance, and Law! None, or very few of the questions, where recognised from feed back in the exam. All new questions! Has anyone any information on this, and where to get the latest feed back”?
Thanks for all your reply’s!
Cheers
Tinmouse.
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Go with Bristols feedback - 5 star!
Its alright the ground instuctors saying learn the subject inside out, its easy for them going over the same material year after year, sure it sinks in real good.
The amount of junk you have to try and store in your head over say 5 - 6 months is unreal especially if its all new to you.
Choose which ever method works best for you.
Its alright the ground instuctors saying learn the subject inside out, its easy for them going over the same material year after year, sure it sinks in real good.
The amount of junk you have to try and store in your head over say 5 - 6 months is unreal especially if its all new to you.
Choose which ever method works best for you.
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I have given private tuition to numerous students who have failed exams (mostly Gen Nav, as that was my subject). I can assure you that unless you have phenomenal memory then if you are concentrating on the feedback to the extent that you notice each question that is "new" then you are going about it in the wrong way! Plenty of people will pass this way, but I am certain that whichever school you went to it is not the way your instructors have been trying to teach you* and you are not making efficient use of the time.
Other students have failed by this attitude. I have seen at least one from a school that shall remain nameless (but was once upon a time guilty of using feedback quality to attract students, thus encouraging this obsession) who admitted failing Nav 3 times because of concentrating too much on feedback. He passed after being taken through the basics of the subject so he understood what he was doing, and was not just mechanically going through the motions of "another question of type x(1)" followed by "another z(2)". Other less extreme cases passed easily when I took them through the basics, using feedback only to discover weak areas and test knowledge.
Feedback has its place, but if you know it that well and care enough that there are new questions to post here then I strongly suspect you have put the cart before the horse. Why should new questions matter at all?
*With the probable exception of certain specific and limited areas of pointless knowledge.
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Not only was I an instructor but before that I also learnt the whole lot in 6 months, back in 2000 when the feedback just wasn't available, alongside dozens of others.
It was more difficult then, but mostly because the CAA had not corrected the wording of the questions (I agree that some are still poor) and the instructors were still learning what they needed to concentrate on. Lack of feedback played a part, not least in making those two issues worse, but the inability to just go trawling through past questions was a postive point for most subjects.
I have given private tuition to numerous students who have failed exams (mostly Gen Nav, as that was my subject). I can assure you that unless you have phenomenal memory then if you are concentrating on the feedback to the extent that you notice each question that is "new" then you are going about it in the wrong way! Plenty of people will pass this way, but I am certain that whichever school you went to it is not the way your instructors have been trying to teach you* and you are not making efficient use of the time.
Other students have failed by this attitude. I have seen at least one from a school that shall remain nameless (but was once upon a time guilty of using feedback quality to attract students, thus encouraging this obsession) who admitted failing Nav 3 times because of concentrating too much on feedback. He passed after being taken through the basics of the subject so he understood what he was doing, and was not just mechanically going through the motions of "another question of type x(1)" followed by "another z(2)". Other less extreme cases passed easily when I took them through the basics, using feedback only to discover weak areas and test knowledge.
Feedback has its place, but if you know it that well and care enough that there are new questions to post here then I strongly suspect you have put the cart before the horse. Why should new questions matter at all?
*With the probable exception of certain specific and limited areas of pointless knowledge.
ItsAjob
Not only was I an instructor but before that I also learnt the whole lot in 6 months, back in 2000 when the feedback just wasn't available, alongside dozens of others.
It was more difficult then, but mostly because the CAA had not corrected the wording of the questions (I agree that some are still poor) and the instructors were still learning what they needed to concentrate on. Lack of feedback played a part, not least in making those two issues worse, but the inability to just go trawling through past questions was a postive point for most subjects.
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No disrespect, but the only way to practice what you know (read in the book, and by tutor), is going through the feed back, the more I go through the feed back (Any feed back), the more I come across something I don’t understand - then the more I can identify any week spots in my knowledge! And I think this is a prudent way forward for this type of exam.
This is not learning off all the answers. I do not try to memorise the answers.
New questions matter because of the way they are worded by the CAA. I don’t see why after all my hard work (with trying to understand the subject) I should have to play word games with pigeon English!
I hope, that in the real aviation world, if ATC want me to put the A/C somewhere in order to get distance from another, - they don’t play word games with me.
I hope this puts us on the same page Send Clowns. If not, then in a world with no feed back, – how would I proceed to practice for these exams?
No disrespect, but the only way to practice what you know (read in the book, and by tutor), is going through the feed back, the more I go through the feed back (Any feed back), the more I come across something I don’t understand - then the more I can identify any week spots in my knowledge! And I think this is a prudent way forward for this type of exam.
This is not learning off all the answers. I do not try to memorise the answers.
New questions matter because of the way they are worded by the CAA. I don’t see why after all my hard work (with trying to understand the subject) I should have to play word games with pigeon English!
I hope, that in the real aviation world, if ATC want me to put the A/C somewhere in order to get distance from another, - they don’t play word games with me.
I hope this puts us on the same page Send Clowns. If not, then in a world with no feed back, – how would I proceed to practice for these exams?
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Originally Posted by Send Clowns
I am not saying you shouldn't use feedback. In fact I said the opposite. However I still think you are concentrating too much on it.
OK – So I spent some sleepless hard nights the week of examination studying feedback….and passed with over 92% average (brag brag), but if I didn’t have somewhat of a clue beforehand….I don’t think it would have gone that well. I’d probably pass, but then what’s the point if you come of as a complete idiot on your airline interview?!
Try to learn this stuff the hard way and then reference feedback to learn the tricks of the JAA/CAA. Unfortunately too many questions seem like they want to catch you out rather then test your actual knowledge of the topic.
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Hi there, I have 4 that I was wondering if people could help with:
1) An aircraft with a high Design Limit Load Factor allows a manufacturer to design for a smaller stick force/g
=== True or False
2) The stick force/g is a limit in use of an aircraft; the pilot can check this out in the flight manual.
=== True or False
3) Where is the discontinuity plane in a normal shockwave?
=== Normal to the surface
=== Normal to the relative airflow
4) Does a bow wave form at M=1.0 or just above Mach 1.0
1) An aircraft with a high Design Limit Load Factor allows a manufacturer to design for a smaller stick force/g
=== True or False
2) The stick force/g is a limit in use of an aircraft; the pilot can check this out in the flight manual.
=== True or False
3) Where is the discontinuity plane in a normal shockwave?
=== Normal to the surface
=== Normal to the relative airflow
4) Does a bow wave form at M=1.0 or just above Mach 1.0
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Not sure on the first two but think the answers to the third one is normal to the airflow and the last one is just above mach 1 (according to answers to feedback questions I have done)... but I have been known to be wrong.... good luck tomorrow by the way
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I would be most grateful for suggestions as to the missing bits in this Question. (That's if there are any). Either way it's beyond me. Thank you in advance.
A ground feature was observed on a relative bearing of 325 degrees. The aircraft heading was 165 M Variation 25 (W) and GS 360kt. When relative bearing was 280, the distance and true bearing of the aircraft from the feature was:
a)..
b)..
c)..
d) Answer is 30 NM & 240 degrees:
A ground feature was observed on a relative bearing of 325 degrees. The aircraft heading was 165 M Variation 25 (W) and GS 360kt. When relative bearing was 280, the distance and true bearing of the aircraft from the feature was:
a)..
b)..
c)..
d) Answer is 30 NM & 240 degrees:
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It looks complete to me, you have everything you need to draw a diagram of the situation and then just use triangles to work out the distance and QTE.
-edit- actually no, you need a time between the two bearings to use with the GS to see how far you've gone.
-edit- actually no, you need a time between the two bearings to use with the GS to see how far you've gone.
Have to confess to looking at my BGS notes.
I reckon B, Between 95 and 125kts. Looking at the Power versus TAS graph Vy is the speed where there is maximum excess of thrust available. (Power Available over Power Required).
Does this differ from Oxford notes?
I reckon B, Between 95 and 125kts. Looking at the Power versus TAS graph Vy is the speed where there is maximum excess of thrust available. (Power Available over Power Required).
Does this differ from Oxford notes?