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Old 5th Jan 2006, 10:39
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Re: Bristol QBank and AGK

I did lots of gen nav q. with Bristol and got 92%. The exam was easy enough and didn't encounter anything out of ordinary. Flight Planning always tricky and it is the one I studied less, only got 75%, but cannot tell you how close it was to Bristol since the whole exam was a blurr of panic...first one and also my least favourite.
I have 3weeks of AGK qbank before the exam so hope that it will cover me!
PS I was doing IAA ATPLs and I know that they don't update exams as regularly as CAA, so my comments may not be relevant?!
Good luck with Gen Nav and Planning!
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Re: Bristol QBank and AGK

I got 94% for AGK in December with Bristol QBank and a bit of hard work!!

Best of luck with the exams! Only got planning left to do so if you are sitting at Silsoe, see you there!!....

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Re: Bristol QBank and AGK

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Wil be sitting in Dublin, will try and knock out AGK, Coms and HP, leaving me Mass/Balance, Principles of Flight and Performance in April. The IAA kindly allowed us to break up the 2nd module. Should help a little! Goiod luck with planning!!!
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ATPL Question Banks

Hello boys and girls.

While searching through the forum, I found some great airlaw questions which seems to be from an italian link.

I am looking for other sources of ATPL questions. Are there any more websites with free questions?

Thanks for the help.

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Re: ATPL Question Banks

Bristol Groundschool have an online question bank for ATPL(A)(H) and CPL(A)(H) questions. They are not "official" questions although, in my experience with the exams, they seem to resemble the actual questions "pretty well".

http://213.48.96.23/atponline/jalo/index.asp

It costs £50 for 3 months access but I would say it is most definitely worth every penny.

Please don't fall into the trap of studying the questions to pass the exam, make sure you study the manuals / books as well.
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Re: ATPL Question Banks

You can also have a look at www.aviationexam.com - a very nice user interface with tons of questions...
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Ask that question!

It often amazes me reading this forum when I consider the thousands of ATPL students out there - bearing in mind this forum is called 'Professional Pilot Training (includes ground studies)' - how few questions directly relate to the ATPL syllabus or possible exam questions. Utilising the search facility it is evident that, compared to even a few short years ago, very few questions are now asked in this area. Whether this is because students are more sensitive now to fear of ridicule, students now feel entirely comfortable with the syllabus thanks to the huge amount of feedback available, or students are just more intelligent - which goes against everything the experts are saying - I do not know.
What I do know is that this forum is read by many experienced people (I do not conclude myself here), some of whom teach ATPL subjects for a living, who are more than willing to take the time to help a confused student (they've all been there themselves) with a question they do not understand and can talk them through it, perhaps in a slightly different way to that which the student has been taught, allowing the doors of enlightenment to open. In addition to this, there are many students (I include myself here) on this forum who, having seen and been very disappointed by fellow students' attitudes (that every other student is evil competition for their entitlement to a right-hand seat), and do not have any time for that kind of behaviour, are only too willing to share 'The Knowledge'. Lastly we have our resident experts, such as John Tullamarine, Genghis the Engineer et al, who can take you to a deeper level of knowledge that borders on becoming a spiritual experience i.e. your brain starts to fry.
So, if any students reading this are having genuine problems - we are NOT here to replace endeavour and reduce study time, nor are we here for those unwilling to use the search facility on pprune or google - with parts of the ATPL syllabus, you are not alone. Let the pprune family help you. The chances are that there are others out there having problems in the same area. Also, you will be helping others who will go after you as your post shall remain in the archive.
I'm sure that as well as enabling pilots to communicate effectively, Danny created pprune to empower and educate pilots. So go on, educate yourself!!!
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Re: Ask that question!

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Very true and I for one have posted questions related to various sticky topics during the duration of my studies, and still do. You will find also that many students will be using their own study forums ( like BGS forum ) as they find it more appropriate and may feel that posting a basic Law question on this site may piss people off? Wrong to think that way, but I myself only resorted to PPrune for such questions when at weekends for example, I was not going to get a reply on the school forum for a couple of days!
I could not agree with you more though, as there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers from high n mighty unhelpfull knowitall's, and any question put up with good replys will help all who have not yet asked same.
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Re: Ask that question!

Could there now be less questions asked on Prune as more GS providers now have decent on-line Qbanks and assistance? Plus their own forums?

It sounds like a possibility?

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Re: ATPL Question Banks

http://www.aerosolutions.be/
-that is the real Mccoy - exellent questions tool where you can get help from other users in the somtimes at best very confusing world of Jar ATPL exams
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Re: hey guys can anyone help me with this question!

What's the actual calculation for max drift?
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Ground School Exam Questions

Hi All,

I reckon the Italian ATPL question bank is full of errors. I'm going through the navigation section and have found that the answer key often doesn't correspond to the correct answer. See below for an example.

If the IAA are using this as their CQB (central question bank) am I better off to select the wrong answer since their computer may be programmed with the incorrect answer ?

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On the Italian feedback, navigation question 134 below,
Answer A was given as correct but I can't see how this is the case.

134) Given:

True track 180°

Drift 8°R

Compass heading 195°

Deviation -2°

Calculate the variation?

A 21°W

B 25°W

C 5°W

D 9°W
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Re: ATPL question bank full of errors

The Italian Question Bank, whilst being quite useful does contain many errors throughout the subjects.

Never ever select the wrong answer based upon what you saw in the Italian "feedback" that you used. The IAA have probably recognised that there was an error in the question / answer and will have rectified it.

Always work out the answers, deduce which answer you think is right based upon your knowledge of the subject, NOT what the Italian feedback suggested is the correct answer (which is more often than not incorrect).

I doubt you'd be able to contest a question on the basis of, "but it said it was option (C) in the Italian Feedback version". In fact I'd put money on the IAA/CAA throwing it back in your face on that basis.

As for the question, I believe it is option A - Variation is 21W.

Compass Heading - 2 Degrees of Westerly Deviation = 193 Magnetic Heading.
True Track = 180 - 8 Degrees of Right Drift = 172 Degrees True Heading.

193 Degrees Magnetic Heading - 172 Degrees True Heading = 21 Degrees difference and because the Magnetic Heading is greater than the True Heading then the Variation must be westerly. So variation = 21 degrees Westerly.

I used to have problems with Deviation when given with a - or a + isntead of W or E. If its a minus sign then it is a westerly deviation (I believe). If a plus then an easterly deviation. This used to mess my calculations up - I might be wrong though as its been a while since I sat the exam and my have got confused myself since then.
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Re: ATPL question bank full of errors

I agree with Charlie Zulu that the answer is A.

I use the mnemonic Cadbury's Dairy Milk Very Tasty.

Compass Deviation Magnetic Variation True

Going from left to right you add East and Subtract West deviations and variations.

For practical flight planning you would start on the right and work left, eg draw your true track on a chart and then add the West variation, (In this part of the world), giving you your Magnetic heading.

When you have a problem like this you put in the information you have and work out the blanks!

Therefore:

C = 195 D = -2 (2W) M = ? V = ? T = 172 (180-8)

M = C - D = 193

V is the difference between T & M

As Charlie Zulu states, you have to subtract 21 from 193 to get your true heading. Therefore going left to right in the mnemonic subtractions are West variation.

Hope this helps and isn't too confusing!
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Re: ATPL question bank full of errors

Thanks guys, I knew "Deviation West Compass Best" but I thought when they give you a digit and a +/- sign you just perform the maths. I wasn't sure they were referring to a convention - but it's there in the PPSC notes !
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Re: ATPL question bank full of errors

Charlie Zulu,
Although I entirely agree with you, NOT ALL errors have been corrected by CAA or IAA. However what I would do in those cases is to answer correctly but call the envigilator and point out the question. Tell them the reasoning behind your answer and also tell them you have seen the question before and that their is a possibility of error. If your score is below 75%, they will then look at the objections raised.
That way you cover yourself in the best manner possible. Most of these errors you will find in Bristol Qbank with a note from the guys at Bristol, stating that this is an error but that either they have appealed it or that it is still in error AND TO ANSWER INCORRECTLY!?....AGK question on frequency and rpm and the no of poles is an example. 4 magnets = 8 poles but the answer by the CAA is 4..?
Not good but what can you do. Best thing, if you are sure, point out the error and give the correct answer.
Good luck...
Bultaco...IAA envigilators are very accomodating...I had my hand up at least 5/6 times during exams as there were a number of errors throughout!
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Re: ATPL question bank full of errors

Thanks powdermonkey,

I think I'd be wary of anybody that gets 100% in these tests - like what kind of mindset would they have ?
Also I have to say I'm surprised by the standard of ATPL documentation - I have a set of these documents which are covered in grammar/spelling errors, incorrect equations etc. The PPSC documents, however, are quite good.
Of all industries I would expect aviation to be accurate but it's not the case.
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Re: ATPL question bank full of errors

I would have thought that errors should have been ironed out by the time someone takes the exam as don't they have people looking through each exam question for a particular month before they are sat? I believe our British CAA do that... then again some errors still do appear in our exams too.

Yes I'd go with what PowderMonkey their post above. I was specifically thinking about appealing questions after the exam itself but even if you'd appeal during the exam then please have a good reason why you are (ie, backup your answer with reasoning) appealing, not just "but it said it was option (C) in the Italian Feedback".
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Re: ATPL question bank full of errors

Absolutely CZ! you must give a reason and the envigilator does write down your reasoning! IAA Q banks don't seem to differ too much from the CAA however, as I have been using Bristol and the questions were very similar and in certain cases word for word....makes you wonder who supplies who?
BULTACO, the manuals in many cases are confusing, have errors, are badly written with terrible punctuation which makes understanding the content that much more difficult! I don't think a comma is used in the world of aviation!!! Yes I have felt the same as you AND STILL DO!
Best of luck, it isn't perfect but we all get through it eventually and forget it all very soon after

PS don't be too critical of the mindset of the people who get 100%....by learning some of the answers off by heart! You sound ( don't mean to presume ) like you are starting the ATPL's, believe me, there comes a time when ideology goes out the window and you simply want to pass...and pass you MUST! Therefore you do what it takes, remember, flying is the important bit, you will learn how to apply the RELEVANT part of all this theory during the training.........at least I hope so 'caus I am not there yet.....and sitting exams in a week or so and learning a good few things off without full understanding of the subject matter! It used to make me feel very guilty during 1st module, so I tried to understand it ALL!........not possible!!!
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Re: hey guys can anyone help me with this question!

Come on someone must know?!
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