OAT (Oxford) - the thread, reborn (Part XXVII)!
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How are the Maths&Physics tests at OAT compared to Cabair? Cabair was very basic - GCSE pass standard
Also does anyone have any comments on the pilot/sim assessment at OAT. CAbair used Pilapt which I found reasonable challenging
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Rob
Also does anyone have any comments on the pilot/sim assessment at OAT. CAbair used Pilapt which I found reasonable challenging
Thanks
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The physics part of OAT's assessment consists of 15 timed questions. The maths part has 24 questions (I think) which again is timed.
Nothing particularly difficult - long division/multiplication, changing subject of formulae etc. For the physics you should cover electrics, magnetism, kinetics, light & energy.
The sim check is the fun part. When I took my sim check, it was a current Captain for DHL cargo that did it. Fine chap he was and it was very relaxed. You were asked to do banking, climb/descending and constant speed/altitude & heading tasks.
The physics part of OAT's assessment consists of 15 timed questions. The maths part has 24 questions (I think) which again is timed.
Nothing particularly difficult - long division/multiplication, changing subject of formulae etc. For the physics you should cover electrics, magnetism, kinetics, light & energy.
The sim check is the fun part. When I took my sim check, it was a current Captain for DHL cargo that did it. Fine chap he was and it was very relaxed. You were asked to do banking, climb/descending and constant speed/altitude & heading tasks.
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I went for the OAT assessment in October last year, but didnt pass everything for the integrated course. they recommended I came back to try again in four months, but I decided to boost my flying licence first.
I have now booked my place on the new 'Waypoint' modular course, and start in September for the ATPL ground school.
If anyone is worrying about going for selection, give me a shout n il share some advice on OAT. there are options if you don't make the grade.
I have now booked my place on the new 'Waypoint' modular course, and start in September for the ATPL ground school.
If anyone is worrying about going for selection, give me a shout n il share some advice on OAT. there are options if you don't make the grade.
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What is your problem?
You manage to hijack just about every thread with your negative comments about Integrated courses and especially OAT.
Could you perhaps divulge abit of information to us about who you are and why you feel so qualified to share yours negative views on every topic on this forum?
The original question on this thread was about the apptitude tests at OAT so stick to the subject matter pal.
If you want to have a good old moan then set up a Thread called 'Lets all moan about Integrated esp OAT!'
Sorry had to get that off my chest.
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You manage to hijack just about every thread with your negative comments about Integrated courses and especially OAT.
Could you perhaps divulge abit of information to us about who you are and why you feel so qualified to share yours negative views on every topic on this forum?
The original question on this thread was about the apptitude tests at OAT so stick to the subject matter pal.
If you want to have a good old moan then set up a Thread called 'Lets all moan about Integrated esp OAT!'
Sorry had to get that off my chest.
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If you had read my posts properly, you would have realised that I am not anti-Oxford or anti-integrated courses, but I am merely pointing out other options. I made factual points stating that CTC have better graduate placement than any other FTO. I also said that other integrated courses (such as FTE, which is less expensive) have the same prospects for their graduates as Oxford, which is also true. Is there something wrong with comparing other FTOs? It seems there is a case of Can't Read/Won't Read on these forums. Just because I'm not singing Oxford's praises (nor am I criticising them!), doesn't mean that I'm anti-Oxford. If someone mentions another FTO in the same sentence as Oxford, people take offence, and think there is criticism aimed at Oxford. I think that you have to compare the different FTOs because if people read only about Oxford, they will think Oxford is the only way. If you think Oxford is the right place for you out of all the options, then by all means, go for it!
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Thanks for the PM. Unfortunately you are like a broken record!
And regarding your last point:
"If you had bothered to read my posts properly, would you still have launched a public attack on me? You were a bit too quick to jump on my back."
1) I do read your posts properly. They are full of the same negative points. I take them with a very large pinch of salt
2) Regarding the "public attack"! Thats the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. YOU ARE ANONYMOUS ON THIS FORUM!!!!!!! No one knows who you are. I am mortified that I have hurt your feelings.
And regarding your last point:
"If you had bothered to read my posts properly, would you still have launched a public attack on me? You were a bit too quick to jump on my back."
1) I do read your posts properly. They are full of the same negative points. I take them with a very large pinch of salt
2) Regarding the "public attack"! Thats the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. YOU ARE ANONYMOUS ON THIS FORUM!!!!!!! No one knows who you are. I am mortified that I have hurt your feelings.
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balhambob,
I'm bang on form boi, no hurt feelings. Apparently, you have misunderstood the points/posts I made, but there was no negativity intended whatsoever. To be honest, I don't want to get into a pointless, childish argument with you, even if you seem determined to do so with me. This detracts from the forums. Can't we just chill and put all this in the past?
All the best
I'm bang on form boi, no hurt feelings
. Apparently, you have misunderstood the points/posts I made, but there was no negativity intended whatsoever. To be honest, I don't want to get into a pointless, childish argument with you, even if you seem determined to do so with me. This detracts from the forums. Can't we just chill and put all this in the past?All the best
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Originally Posted by speedrestriction
FemaleWannabe,
Residential Groundschool: 7 months
Hour Building: 1 Month
From start of CPL to end of MCC: 5 months
End of MCC to first job interview: 2 months 1 week
SR
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In answer to the original question, no it is not hard to get through Oxford's aptitude test............if you have the aptitude for it!
The whole point of Aptitude tests in this case is to find out if you are suited to:
a. The rigours of an Integrated course
b. The line of work you will ultimately go into
Trust me, given the serious financial committment involved you owe it to yourself to find out if you are what the industry is looking for. I mean, what is the point in getting through a half arsed assessment and paying £100k only to realise you weren't the right kind of person for the job at the end. That could have bought you a tidy flat ;-)
No but seriously you see where I'm going with that, and I wish you the best of luck getting in to OAT.
When you get to the psycho profile, just remember that you should not, under any circumstances, get diverted from the general questions into thinking of specific examples. To illustrate my point, a question commonly asked in these sorts of things is:
Do you get frustrated when stuck in traffic?
A seemingly innocuous question, but you'd be surprised how many people immediately think of a time recently when they were trying to get somewhere urgently and got held up in traffic and you will reply YES (if answering instinctively as per the brief.) The questionairre is a generalisation, so don't ever ever ever ever start thinking of examples. Say to yourself when faced with that question: On a regular, normal day, would I be overly frustrated by a minor traffic hold up?
Most people will then calmly and TRUTHFULLY answer no, and if you follow this way of approaching these questionaires then you will too. (That is unless you are a psycho baby boiler who has no business going into the aviation industry anyhow!) It's all about filtering out the unstable ones. Pilots are supposed to fit into a nice neat pigeonhole labelled 'stable extrovert' - something you will learn about in Human Performance. Make sure you are the stable extrovert they want you to be before you go into the industry, I think there are many more of these questionnaires to be filled out in the ensuing years!
With regard to the Sim check, its a piece of cake unless you are afflicted with the claw of Jeremy Beadle and have his interpersonal skills. They want to know if you can digest basic instructions, can multi task, and can GET ON WITH THE GUY SITTING NEXT TO YOU! Don't be afraid to concentrate on completing the manoevre before you tell them the square root of 63!
Oh and if you get through, enjoy the 'team building day'. You will never say the word 'tripod' again without it triggering memories of OAT's car park and dodgy lunch!
All the best.
The Camel
The whole point of Aptitude tests in this case is to find out if you are suited to:
a. The rigours of an Integrated course
b. The line of work you will ultimately go into
Trust me, given the serious financial committment involved you owe it to yourself to find out if you are what the industry is looking for. I mean, what is the point in getting through a half arsed assessment and paying £100k only to realise you weren't the right kind of person for the job at the end. That could have bought you a tidy flat ;-)
No but seriously you see where I'm going with that, and I wish you the best of luck getting in to OAT.
When you get to the psycho profile, just remember that you should not, under any circumstances, get diverted from the general questions into thinking of specific examples. To illustrate my point, a question commonly asked in these sorts of things is:
Do you get frustrated when stuck in traffic?
A seemingly innocuous question, but you'd be surprised how many people immediately think of a time recently when they were trying to get somewhere urgently and got held up in traffic and you will reply YES (if answering instinctively as per the brief.) The questionairre is a generalisation, so don't ever ever ever ever start thinking of examples. Say to yourself when faced with that question: On a regular, normal day, would I be overly frustrated by a minor traffic hold up?
Most people will then calmly and TRUTHFULLY answer no, and if you follow this way of approaching these questionaires then you will too. (That is unless you are a psycho baby boiler who has no business going into the aviation industry anyhow!) It's all about filtering out the unstable ones. Pilots are supposed to fit into a nice neat pigeonhole labelled 'stable extrovert' - something you will learn about in Human Performance. Make sure you are the stable extrovert they want you to be before you go into the industry, I think there are many more of these questionnaires to be filled out in the ensuing years!
With regard to the Sim check, its a piece of cake unless you are afflicted with the claw of Jeremy Beadle and have his interpersonal skills. They want to know if you can digest basic instructions, can multi task, and can GET ON WITH THE GUY SITTING NEXT TO YOU! Don't be afraid to concentrate on completing the manoevre before you tell them the square root of 63!
Oh and if you get through, enjoy the 'team building day'. You will never say the word 'tripod' again without it triggering memories of OAT's car park and dodgy lunch!
All the best.
The Camel