Hour Building (General & UK)
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From: U and K
Dear Mr Nags Teeth ...
I did my hours building in Portugal !
Cheap rates (£40/hour wet). The place I went to, just north of Lisbon had about 4 C152's, a C172, a Piper Cub and even a Cherokee Six !
I managed to do about 50 hours in around 10 days!
I will be going back there later this year for more!
I believe they are planning to build acommodation at the aerodrome, so people that wish to do hours building can stay there too ... for 5 Euros a night! Not too shabby!
Great Flying, Lots of Navaids you can practice tracking to/from. Lovely scenery, and of course, great weather!
I did mine at the end of last summer, and although they tend to get a lot of fog in the mornings at this time of year, the afternoons are cracking!
When you sum up the costs of going to the States, you really dont spend much more, if any, by staying in Europe!
ATC is great too .... Portuguese Military, and the English is spot on!
I recommend them to anyone ......
Anyone for details, just email or PM me !
ABO
I did my hours building in Portugal !
Cheap rates (£40/hour wet). The place I went to, just north of Lisbon had about 4 C152's, a C172, a Piper Cub and even a Cherokee Six !
I managed to do about 50 hours in around 10 days!
I will be going back there later this year for more!
I believe they are planning to build acommodation at the aerodrome, so people that wish to do hours building can stay there too ... for 5 Euros a night! Not too shabby!
Great Flying, Lots of Navaids you can practice tracking to/from. Lovely scenery, and of course, great weather!
I did mine at the end of last summer, and although they tend to get a lot of fog in the mornings at this time of year, the afternoons are cracking!
When you sum up the costs of going to the States, you really dont spend much more, if any, by staying in Europe!
ATC is great too .... Portuguese Military, and the English is spot on!
I recommend them to anyone ......
Anyone for details, just email or PM me !
ABO
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From: UK
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Nothing wrong with hours building in the US at all- as mentioned there are some very challenging areas- but you will probably gain more from a stint in Canada
Nothing wrong with hours building in the US at all- as mentioned there are some very challenging areas- but you will probably gain more from a stint in Canada
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From: South Norfolk, England
If you can cope with the hassle of buying and selling, why not think about buying a cheapo single seat PFA type (Luton Minor, Taylor Mono ect) and literally flying the pants off it! You can buy something quite decent for around £5K, and sell for a similar amount next year to help pay for your CPL course. If you manage a couple of hundred hours you will find each hour probably only cost £20!!! I have a friend who did something similar and flew 700 hrs over 12 months!
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From: chester
Hour Building
Can anyone suggest any good places in the USA to complete some hour building. I know places like Ormond offer free housing, are there any other schools like this? any help would be great, thanks. Basically just looking to do 50 hours on the cheap and do abit of touring. Thanks
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From: italy
time building programme
I woul like buy a time building programme on A320 (500 Hours). The only way that i found on web to get it is by Eaglejet. Anyone knows any other company or flight school that provides it?? thanks for your help!!!!!
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From: UK
You want to build 500 hours on an A320 at your own expense??!! 
You could try Astraeus (Bond). Not sure if they do A320 line flying, maybe just Boeing?
www.flyastraeus.com
You could try Astraeus (Bond). Not sure if they do A320 line flying, maybe just Boeing?
www.flyastraeus.com
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From: Kilmacolm
If you want cheap try Air Desert Pacific based at KPOC in California (L.A. Basin). I've used them twice and can't fault them. The aircraft are an all Piper fleet, they are quite used but a couple of the Archers (N2925Q particularly) are quite nice.
http://www.airdesertpacific.com/
http://www.airdesertpacific.com/
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From: Germany
Hi,
not the states, but South Africa as secret for hour-building.
I've done my PPL with www.th-aviation-conneXions.com , close to world-famous Kruger Park.
The rates for hour-building are negotiable, I fly the Tecnam for 590 Rand, approx. 95 US-$, not that cheap as in the US. But the experience to fly in the bush, approach and land difficult bush strips are unique....
Depending on the hour-package you may get more attractive rates.
Clear sky!
not the states, but South Africa as secret for hour-building.
I've done my PPL with www.th-aviation-conneXions.com , close to world-famous Kruger Park.
The rates for hour-building are negotiable, I fly the Tecnam for 590 Rand, approx. 95 US-$, not that cheap as in the US. But the experience to fly in the bush, approach and land difficult bush strips are unique....
Depending on the hour-package you may get more attractive rates.
Clear sky!
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From: Ireland
I've used them twice and can't fault them !
Charlie zulu Im curious , you have been hour building twice but mentioned on a different tread that your about to start an atpl groundschool in Naples . Why would you be hour building twice and not even completed an atpl course ? seems like your jumping the gun there a bit as the hour building usually come after the atpl's to build the hours requirement for the cpl .
Flighttime
Charlie zulu Im curious , you have been hour building twice but mentioned on a different tread that your about to start an atpl groundschool in Naples . Why would you be hour building twice and not even completed an atpl course ? seems like your jumping the gun there a bit as the hour building usually come after the atpl's to build the hours requirement for the cpl .
Flighttime
Joined: May 2002
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From: U.K.
Hour Building Pre-CPL
As some of you will know, I was off at ADP in late January and most of February. I had planned to build 54 hours but in reality (due to severe weather) only managed to acquire 25. However I did experience conditions out there which will have made me a better Pilot, one who is even more respectful of 11,000ft Mountains 
My situation is that I need to fly around 45 more hours before I can start my CPL training.I am looking at booking a CPL/MEP/IR at Aeros, the course would be starting in late June.Just as a side line lol is Aeros a good choice?
My question really relates to what would be the most advisable form of action to take. I want to really stay here (the UK) and try and complete these hours. I have little UK air time and could do with the experience! However with the weather as it is, maybe it would be best to get away somewhere and fly 30hrs or so?
Money is not such an issue, I have my US verification etc I would be willing to go down under etc any options suggested would be appreciated!
Cheers guys and gals
My situation is that I need to fly around 45 more hours before I can start my CPL training.I am looking at booking a CPL/MEP/IR at Aeros, the course would be starting in late June.Just as a side line lol is Aeros a good choice?
My question really relates to what would be the most advisable form of action to take. I want to really stay here (the UK) and try and complete these hours. I have little UK air time and could do with the experience! However with the weather as it is, maybe it would be best to get away somewhere and fly 30hrs or so?
Money is not such an issue, I have my US verification etc I would be willing to go down under etc any options suggested would be appreciated!
Cheers guys and gals
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From: UK
I was in a similar position last year, I needed to accumilate 60hrs before early June to start at a different EGBJ training provider.
My advice - if money is not an issue you would be mad not to do it in the UK - get experiece of british airspace, get to know the area and airspace where you will be taking your CPL it will give you a huge advantage for the course. Although the weather is crap there is rarely a day when you cannot do any flying at all and the experience of the conditions will make you a better pilot.
I managed 60hrs in 2 months comfortably. (April & May '04).
I also recommend a structured hours building programme if you can find one. If not, flying from a school that also does CPL training is a good idea - on those marginal days when I was undecided on flying, it was often a CPL instructor gave me a firm kick up the rear and said get on with it! (There is no better way of practicing diversions than doing it for real!).
BTW In my opinion Aeros is a very good choice of schools.
Good luck
101
My advice - if money is not an issue you would be mad not to do it in the UK - get experiece of british airspace, get to know the area and airspace where you will be taking your CPL it will give you a huge advantage for the course. Although the weather is crap there is rarely a day when you cannot do any flying at all and the experience of the conditions will make you a better pilot.
I managed 60hrs in 2 months comfortably. (April & May '04).
I also recommend a structured hours building programme if you can find one. If not, flying from a school that also does CPL training is a good idea - on those marginal days when I was undecided on flying, it was often a CPL instructor gave me a firm kick up the rear and said get on with it! (There is no better way of practicing diversions than doing it for real!).
BTW In my opinion Aeros is a very good choice of schools.
Good luck
101
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From: U.K.
Cheers 101, that's the feeling I have as well, I currently fly out of EGNX and its a 45 mile round trip sometimes just to fly 1hr.The weather can change so much between where I live and the airport. They do not offer CPL or IR which is a shame as the IMC training was top notch.
As for my UK time, which is mostly instrument work, I haven't even landed at an away field!
The closest I came was to making some go around's on a NDB approach into Leicester. I am still some what nervous about flying in the UK, but that is down to lack of practical experience.
I could do with building some hours at Gloucester perhaps before the CPL? Might be an idea
When it comes down to money, It is certainly not endless, but I want to pay for the best I can afford. If UK flying will help me more, UK it is, if you see what I mean.
I know what you mean about Instructors kicking you up the back side to get you up there. However we were dealing with sigmets where I was so I was VERY apprehensive.One day an instructor said that I should do a long x-country and advised that the weather would be fine.I stayed local and it was a good job because it turned IFR within the space of a few minutes lol !
Cheers
As for my UK time, which is mostly instrument work, I haven't even landed at an away field!
The closest I came was to making some go around's on a NDB approach into Leicester. I am still some what nervous about flying in the UK, but that is down to lack of practical experience.I could do with building some hours at Gloucester perhaps before the CPL? Might be an idea
When it comes down to money, It is certainly not endless, but I want to pay for the best I can afford. If UK flying will help me more, UK it is, if you see what I mean.
I know what you mean about Instructors kicking you up the back side to get you up there. However we were dealing with sigmets where I was so I was VERY apprehensive.One day an instructor said that I should do a long x-country and advised that the weather would be fine.I stayed local and it was a good job because it turned IFR within the space of a few minutes lol !
Cheers
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From: The Shire
Echo the words of the Captain. In light of what you have said you should definitely spend every one of those hours flying in the UK. Not only that but spend every one of them flying to other airfields. Bear these words in mind: constructive hour building.
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From: The Aluminium Tube of Doom
I can vouch for Aeros, have done the majority of my hours-building with them (worth asking if their Cherokee is available, very reasonable rates for block hours), and an IMC course. Top-notch instruction and a friendly atmosphere there.
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Do the CPL qualifying Q X-C as part of your pre-course hours building! There's no reason why you shouldn't. Also, if you haven't done so already, get your Night Qualification sorted before the days get any longer!
Aeros has an excellent reputation.
Aeros has an excellent reputation.