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Old 17th May 2005, 23:03
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Does anyone out there at the sharp end have any up to the minute info on Ari Ben, in particular the 200 hour Multi-Course (+20 SEP) with all FAA Ratings.

It all sounds very good but I'm having a bit of trouble getting detailed information from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

I'd appreciate any feedback from current students, at Ari Ben or possibly EFT.

Please feel free to PM - all info gratefully received.

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Alternatively you could look for a job that would allow you to build multi engine time. You have to know where to look but there are opportunities in parachute dropping, traffic reporting, aerial photography etc in the UK. And yes, some companies will consider you with the bare minimum twin hours as well!

Don't pay for anything unless you have exhausted every possibility of doing it at someone else's expense!!

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Old 19th May 2005, 12:59
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I totally agree. Most UK operators have to take people with very few twin hours because most other people can't afford them either.
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Hour Building (General & UK)

Hi All,

Does anyone know of any FTOs that do Hour Building at a discounted rate in the UK ?

As it's difficult for me to get time off work, there would be little or no chance of me going to the states to get it done

Anyones else got this kind of issue ?


Cheers

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Old 6th Jun 2005, 12:09
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Hours

I contacted Multiflight at leeds bradford and I think (dont quote) 80hrs worked out at about £5,500 (ish).

The other thing is try somewhere like the Thorp group at Liverpool airport and the other good one is BCT at Kemble

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Old 6th Jun 2005, 12:12
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Shobdon do a PPL Syndicate (£20 per month) which will get you a C152 for £63/hr and a PA28 Archer for £85/hr which is pretty reasonable...Also gives you good practice at short field departures and arrivals (800m runway!).

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Cheers guys,

looks like i'm going to have to go on the sick for a month


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Stapleford offer a good rate on their large fleet of C152s (£65) if you put some money up front. You could try and lease a C152 or tomahawk or similar. They are quite hard to find but there are are some about. Rough price guide would be about £30- £35 per hour - you would pay fuel, parking, landing fees etc. Worth a thought.

800m of tarmac - short?!!! Not really. Shobdon is very nice though.

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Old 6th Jun 2005, 19:28
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Cheapest way is to buy a share in an aircraft. Have a look in the PFA magazine, or on the notice board in your local airfield. A 1/8th or 1/10th share in a small aircraft won't cost you a fortune. The flying, if you pick the right type of aircraft, will be about as cheap as it's possible to get (I used to pay around £30/hour in a 2-seat 120kt turbo-charged aircraft with retractable gear and a variable-pitch prop, for example). And once you've finished your hour-building, you can sell the share to get back most of your initial outlay - unless you get so hooked on your plane you don't want to sell, of course!

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Cheers guys,

Some nice ideas, anyone know of any good price shares in the North West ? pref Blackpool ?

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contact leading edge at Cumbernauld, Scotland, they have some very good offers on there aircraft at present. Contact me if you want there contact details.

Can't beat the scottish scenery!
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Old 10th Jun 2005, 20:29
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Speedbird,

There are a few flying clubs at Blackpool, best thing to do is pop into each of them and see if there are any shares going. I don't know of any right now - if you'd asked me a month or two ago I knew of a new C152 group which was forming, but that group is full now.

You could also try Barton. I don't know Barton, but I get the impression it's more of a club environment than Blackpool, so you're more likely to find shares there - especially shares in interesting (and therefore often cheap) aircraft.

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Old 23rd Jun 2005, 22:48
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Turbin hour building for novice

Hello.. i have my FAA instrument commercial on a multi engine.
Now i am concidering to buy some king air hours.
Eaglejet are the only one i know how does this. Any one with recomandations on other companys doing this?

Price range $20 000,-
Anyone who actually have done this with eagle? i am not interested in answears from ppl who know someone who know someone who bla bla...

Viking 2000.
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Old 23rd Jun 2005, 23:23
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king airs

hello,

check out www.aussie-air.com

they have a few king airs

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Old 24th Jun 2005, 05:12
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You might try as well
www.alpine-air.com/fo/
Not sure, if they currently do it for non US-citizen, used to do so before August 2004...
pretty good and quite a bit cheaper then eagle..

cheers

edit: no King Airs, but 99s and 1900s...
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Old 24th Jun 2005, 11:08
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the whole payment up front - no credit cards thing makes me nervous with alpine and aussie
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Old 28th Jun 2005, 09:46
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Farrell:
You always may talk to the management and negotiate about this (Alpine)...
Did not pay all up in front...
Regards...
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 07:21
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Time building

Hello, i have a few questions.
on average, how long does it take a pilot from getting there ppl to landing a job with as a FO with with an airline? ie. southwest, westjet, delta.

Also, how do pilots build time? it seems even small airlines require atleast 1500, accordding to my calculations, attaining that number would cost 100,000? (~$100/h in a 152?)

thanks in advance for answering my questions.
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 12:43
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Plenty ways to build flight time without forking out 100,000!

Most will go down the instructor route, some will do flying sky divers, banner towing, crop spraying, glider towing etc...

Some take many years slogging away getting the commercial licence and ratings and building good quality flight time and experience while others will pay out huge amounts of cash to go to the school with the best reputation for getting pilots hired with an airline with minimum hours. Depends on your own situation, I guess their are many ways to accomplish the goal, no right or wrong way as long as you eventually make it one way or another.

In many ways it depends on luck, being in the right place at the right time, make as many good friends in aviation as possible and sonner or later you wil get a job.

Just my 2pence worth anyway.

ys
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 22:44
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For the love of god (allah, whatever) please, people do not pay someone to fly a clapped out 99 full of rubber dogpile around.

How low are we going to stoop?
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