Hour Building (General & UK)
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hour building in uk
Mid anglia school of flying at cambridge (01223 294466) does hour building rates. I think it is from about 65 pounds per hour, but depends how much you do.
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Does anyone know of any hour building places in East Anglia? I have heard that Mid Anglia School of Flying are now offering it. Has anyone had experience of them? What are the rates and availability like?
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There's sure lots of options in this thread for hour building in the US....less so in Canada...and almost none for NZ...
How about options for those who want to really make every hour of time building worth it's while with challenging AND interesting X ctry's...aside from the '50 hrs in 4 weeks' philsophy
...not the usual something you're going to forget before the year is done...
How about options for those who want to really make every hour of time building worth it's while with challenging AND interesting X ctry's...aside from the '50 hrs in 4 weeks' philsophy
...not the usual something you're going to forget before the year is done...
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Hour building before CPL
Quick question. I'm about to start ground school at OAT and will be starting the CPL/MER in April/May 2007.
Just wondered if anyone had any advice on hour building to get up to 150 hours as required?
Also, is it required for me to have 10 hours instrument flying before I start the CPL?
Many thanks.
Just wondered if anyone had any advice on hour building to get up to 150 hours as required?
Also, is it required for me to have 10 hours instrument flying before I start the CPL?
Many thanks.
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Basically South Africa is the place (IMHO) to go I did and loved it. Don't follow the crowd to the US be different. It's tremendous!! Wx good Routes interesting and challenging. Great Airports great food drink and social life
Check these out for starters
All in Johannesburgh
Lanseria
Grand Central
Rand
Enjoy!
Ps don't let Oxford get to you.. keep your head on those shoulders!
Check these out for starters
All in Johannesburgh
Lanseria
Grand Central
Rand
Enjoy!
Ps don't let Oxford get to you.. keep your head on those shoulders!
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Hi There!
I also did my hour building out in South Africa, partly because its where my family live and also its africa and its beautiful!
I flew out of Lanseria which is in Johannesburg, lovely airport, parallel runways and an excellent terminal with great food!
I flew up to Botswana from there which was a great experience and great for site seeing!
As with anything there are the negatives, I went twice building 80 hrs the first time and twenty the second, I would not recommend the place I rented from the second time around, although friendly, they were a little incompetent, never a day went by that there was not some problem, for example I arrived one morning to find the aircraft I had booked was missing a compass!
The aircraft out there are mainly C-172's, you'll need to do a conversion and an Air Law exam (open book,easy as hell), to get your permitt to fly you may also have to do a few hours orientation, which is well worth it, it’s a lot bigger out there, you'll undersand what I mean if you go!
All the best mate, PM me if you have any questions!
Cheers Anthony
I also did my hour building out in South Africa, partly because its where my family live and also its africa and its beautiful!
I flew out of Lanseria which is in Johannesburg, lovely airport, parallel runways and an excellent terminal with great food!
I flew up to Botswana from there which was a great experience and great for site seeing!
As with anything there are the negatives, I went twice building 80 hrs the first time and twenty the second, I would not recommend the place I rented from the second time around, although friendly, they were a little incompetent, never a day went by that there was not some problem, for example I arrived one morning to find the aircraft I had booked was missing a compass!
The aircraft out there are mainly C-172's, you'll need to do a conversion and an Air Law exam (open book,easy as hell), to get your permitt to fly you may also have to do a few hours orientation, which is well worth it, it’s a lot bigger out there, you'll undersand what I mean if you go!
All the best mate, PM me if you have any questions!
Cheers Anthony
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I'll second the SA thing. Although I do my flying with Algoa based at Port Elizabeth. Great coastal flying, 3 hours to CPT and 3 hours to DBN, loads of other places to visit too. Cheap accomodation, and there is a beach for the non-flying hours which JNB doesn't have !!.
Algoa operate a fleet of C152's and C172's that have all just been re-furbished in the last couple of years.
Look them up on google, although their website is looking a bit dated now and could do with an update, it is in no way a reflection of how good the club is.
Algoa operate a fleet of C152's and C172's that have all just been re-furbished in the last couple of years.
Look them up on google, although their website is looking a bit dated now and could do with an update, it is in no way a reflection of how good the club is.
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I had the opportunity to do hour-building in Florida, France, South Africa and Canada. All have their advantages and inconvenients.
Florida:
Plus: ease of flying/planning, useful services over the telephone/R/T (1-800 WX BRIEF, flight following, etc.), no landing fees, cheap fuel, lots of airports to fly to, mixing it up with the big boys, no restrictions on doing IFR approaches at night at major airports, good weather (except July with the daily T-storms), nice scenery, flight hours 50% of UK cost
Minus: a bit too flat relief-wise, a bit too easy to navigate, very hot and humid (better climb to 5000' to get a bit of fresh air) in summer, poor a/c performance due low air density, some poor airmanship from local flyers, ATC can also get cross over the R/T (not very professional IMHO), JAA licences validation by the FAA takes much longer post 09/11 (better get it started before leaving the UK now)
France:
Plus: general ease of flying and laid-back attitude to general aviation is comparable to the US, no booking out/in like in UK, landing fees very rare, lots of small airfields with very decent facilities (hard runways etc), generally good weather, good standard of ATC, flight hours cost 25% less than in Blighty
Minus: better speak a minimum of R/T aviation French if you want to go into uncontrolled airfields (or controlled airfields out of hours), lots of MIL-R areas to check for activity at planning stage, not always easy to get some services on small (and not so small) airfields between 1200-1330 (lunch break) or bank holidays, must join a club (joining fee around 200 Euros)
South Africa:
Plus: wonderful scenery (flying over the bush/highveld is unique), challenging nav, professional yet relaxed attitude to flying, English R/T, ease of converting a JAA PPL (skill test/check-out flight, aviation law written exam on a computer, then a trip to the local CAA at Pretoria with the obligatory fee and paperwork and it's done), well maintained aircraft, rare landing fees, plus... you can do long nav flights to Botswana, Namibia, Mozambique, etc. (not in everybody's logbook!), costs 30% less than GB, great country experience!
Minus: aircraft perf can be on the low side, at least in summer (Jo'burg/Grand Central for instance is 5600' amsl), some areas with no radar coverage
Canada:
Plus: ease of validating JAA PPL (via internet/fax with Transport Canada, all arranged even before leaving the UK, then a check-out on arriving and you're done), cheap costs (like the US, flight hours wet around 50% of UK cost), cheap(ish) fuel, nearly no landing fees, good aircraft performance due to dry and colder air, good facilities, possibility to mix it up with commercial traffic at major airports, excellent standard of ATC, welcoming attitude, good weather, great country, no hassle
Minus: due to the sheer size of the country, nav flights can include long stretches over featureless terrain (certainly in Manitoba and some parts of Ontario), GPS is a must due to relative lack of navaids
Bottom line: I'd recommend either South Africa or Canada.
Cheers
Florida:
Plus: ease of flying/planning, useful services over the telephone/R/T (1-800 WX BRIEF, flight following, etc.), no landing fees, cheap fuel, lots of airports to fly to, mixing it up with the big boys, no restrictions on doing IFR approaches at night at major airports, good weather (except July with the daily T-storms), nice scenery, flight hours 50% of UK cost
Minus: a bit too flat relief-wise, a bit too easy to navigate, very hot and humid (better climb to 5000' to get a bit of fresh air) in summer, poor a/c performance due low air density, some poor airmanship from local flyers, ATC can also get cross over the R/T (not very professional IMHO), JAA licences validation by the FAA takes much longer post 09/11 (better get it started before leaving the UK now)
France:
Plus: general ease of flying and laid-back attitude to general aviation is comparable to the US, no booking out/in like in UK, landing fees very rare, lots of small airfields with very decent facilities (hard runways etc), generally good weather, good standard of ATC, flight hours cost 25% less than in Blighty
Minus: better speak a minimum of R/T aviation French if you want to go into uncontrolled airfields (or controlled airfields out of hours), lots of MIL-R areas to check for activity at planning stage, not always easy to get some services on small (and not so small) airfields between 1200-1330 (lunch break) or bank holidays, must join a club (joining fee around 200 Euros)
South Africa:
Plus: wonderful scenery (flying over the bush/highveld is unique), challenging nav, professional yet relaxed attitude to flying, English R/T, ease of converting a JAA PPL (skill test/check-out flight, aviation law written exam on a computer, then a trip to the local CAA at Pretoria with the obligatory fee and paperwork and it's done), well maintained aircraft, rare landing fees, plus... you can do long nav flights to Botswana, Namibia, Mozambique, etc. (not in everybody's logbook!), costs 30% less than GB, great country experience!
Minus: aircraft perf can be on the low side, at least in summer (Jo'burg/Grand Central for instance is 5600' amsl), some areas with no radar coverage
Canada:
Plus: ease of validating JAA PPL (via internet/fax with Transport Canada, all arranged even before leaving the UK, then a check-out on arriving and you're done), cheap costs (like the US, flight hours wet around 50% of UK cost), cheap(ish) fuel, nearly no landing fees, good aircraft performance due to dry and colder air, good facilities, possibility to mix it up with commercial traffic at major airports, excellent standard of ATC, welcoming attitude, good weather, great country, no hassle
Minus: due to the sheer size of the country, nav flights can include long stretches over featureless terrain (certainly in Manitoba and some parts of Ontario), GPS is a must due to relative lack of navaids
Bottom line: I'd recommend either South Africa or Canada.
Cheers
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Some of that hr building was done in Florida right after PPL, some in France shortly before starting CPL to get the necessary PIC hours up, some during CPL in SA, and some in Canada on a flying holiday - plus the odd hour or two in Blighty when the purse strings allow. Total for hour building abroad about 100 hrs (all in the name of saving money), mostly on PA-28s and C152s.
Hope that helps.
Cheers
and C152s.Hope that helps.
Cheers
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Hour building in UK
Guys
Would any of you consider hour building in the UK ?
I have avalable for August next year of a Cessna 152 at IRO £41/hour dry+ VAT. the only snag is that you must take the aircraft away and pay all the parking & landing fees and must fly at least 25 hours.
Would any of you consider hour building in the UK ?
I have avalable for August next year of a Cessna 152 at IRO £41/hour dry+ VAT. the only snag is that you must take the aircraft away and pay all the parking & landing fees and must fly at least 25 hours.
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Far better imho to sign up to one of the e.g. 50pcm (for 12 month) deals that give you a 25% discount in the solo rate. Are there any flying clubs in your locaility that do this? Let the club do all the admin for you, you will appreciate it. You have access to potentially more aircraft anytime, which is weather variable, fly it as little, often or as much as you want (within clubs rules) only having to pay for the time you fly.
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Hour building while parachute dropping?
my question is:
if i have a possibility to fly with PPL in one airclub for skydivers. No payment for that (PPL), but i can get some flying hours with it. Does it count towards CPL hour building or not? How such flight are logged: as x-c flights or local flights?
if i have a possibility to fly with PPL in one airclub for skydivers. No payment for that (PPL), but i can get some flying hours with it. Does it count towards CPL hour building or not? How such flight are logged: as x-c flights or local flights?
Hours in your logbook are hours in your logbook, as long as they are real and not fabricated in your imagination to help towards requirements for CPL etc. So yes they will count.
As to whether it's local or cross country, my logbook didn't differentiate but I would have put local for the day to day up down lifts to and from the same field. If you get to take a display team away to their display site then that can go in the cross country total. Easy.
And top tip...don't get hooked on skydiving yourself! Bloody good fun but a serious distraction in terms of cash, time etc. Bloody good fun though. Again.
As to whether it's local or cross country, my logbook didn't differentiate but I would have put local for the day to day up down lifts to and from the same field. If you get to take a display team away to their display site then that can go in the cross country total. Easy.
And top tip...don't get hooked on skydiving yourself! Bloody good fun but a serious distraction in terms of cash, time etc. Bloody good fun though. Again.