Multi Crew Co-operation Course (MCC)

[Sparky Sliders]

Potkettleblack,

I’m currently trying to choose where to go for my MCC. Not bothered about what aircraft the sim is based on so long as the course is good, but would def like the chance to impress (or not! ) current training captains.

Only course I’ve seen with this claimed opportunity is the Ryanair MCC, but for obvious reasons I’m not too keen on going down that route.

Care to say where you did your MCC and what other courses have good links?

Cheers,

Sparky

[ecosystem_repair_man]

MCC course at European

As the other half of r bleaker (hi Rob - looking forward to receiving the photos)! I too would highly recommend the MCC at European. As well as being a highly experienced and knowledgeable training captain, Tony our instructor was also a great laugh with a unique and effective teaching style. One of the best things for me was the relaxed and helpful attitude of the technical staff - who were quite happy to give us time on our own in the sim to practice (motion off of course)! Having just completed my IR where every second of training is accounted for and charged accordingly, I found this a particularly helpful and positive part of the course. So if it’s an MCC you’re looking for, European at Bournemouth is the place to go. Their website is www.eaac.co.uk but seems to be playing up at the moment - however, if you type "european aviation group" into Google and click on the first entry with `cached' selected, it seems to work. Either way, their website contact for training is:
Simulator Centre
European Aviation Flight Training
European House
Bournemouth International Airport
Christchurch
Dorset
BH23 6EA
T: [phone]
F: [phone]
E: [email protected]
Enjoy - I know I did E_R_M

[Callsign Kilo]

FlightSafety Farnborough MCC

Hey folks, has anyone had any experience of FlightSafety's MCC at Farnborough? Haven't seen very much regarding it on pprune and I am keen to find out a bit more (other than what I have been sent by the company). Any inside info much appreciated.

[HN1708]

Me too!

I'd be interested in knowing more on their MCC as well. How much is it and do you really get an interview with Loganair? How many have completed this course and got a job on the Saab?

Cheers

[captainyonder]

Combined MCC and TR

I'm about to do a type rating on the J31 for a job I've been offered but I haven't yet done my MCC. Is there anyway I can do the MCC as part of my TR?

[potkettleblack]

You tell us, does the TRTO offer this service?

Most employers tend to want to see your MCC certificate before offering the job. I know of a couple of mates that got sim rides without the MCC but were told that if successful then they will require the MCC before they can start the type rating. LASORS F4.1 provides some guidance.

[Callsign Kilo]

Saab MCC

FS did indicate to me a several months back that Loganair have taken 2 people (hardly massive considering the levels of recruitment these guys go through) directly from their course. They also suggest that 'successful completion' results in a CV being forwarded to the Glasgow HQ.

To be honest, that is all very nice. However I am really interested in anyone that can comment on the quality of training. I would imagine that it is pretty good as FlightSafety are a well respected company?

[jonjon]

potkettleblack

Someone asked the same question a few posts ago but where did you do your MCC then? Your claim that 90% find a job is quite surprising and almost to good to be true or is it the Ryanair MCC in Holland/Sweden?

jj

[aeromec]

answer simple. DO AN MCC THAT GETS YOU A JOB .

[captainjim600]

MCC

Aeromec is spot on - NO MCC = NO JOB INTERVIEW full stop.Lets think about it - if you are an employer recruiting and you have some RHS jobs to fill and you have x CVs on your desk.You intend to interview y candidates and you have cvs on your desk from z who have no MCC - rest assured your CV will end up in the grey file.

I did my MCC at Wolverhampton Flight Centre.100 % highly recommended.I recommended the course to two of my friends who attended and have since confirmed they considered it to be excellent also. Its run by an ex RAF pilot who certainly knows his stuff.He tries to pass on his many years of experience during the course - its professional,its fun, its hard work at times and its reasonably priced.Oh and the sim is a peach.Contact/course tutor is Richard Moss.

[BlueRobin]

Alsim 200, a bit old in computer terms but the cockpit is great. AFAIK you get a nice discount for the MCC if you do the CPL/IR there.

[BillieBob]

Is there anyway I can do the MCC as part of my TR?

Only if the TRTO is approved to provide the combined course - not many are. If it's not a combined course, the MCC is a pre-requisite to start a first MPA type rating.

[GrassStrip]

MCC/JOC at Oxford?

Hi
I see on the OAT website they are offering an MCC/JOC for a mere £4.5k - has anyone any experience of doing this? Preferably somebody modular who hasn't done any previous courses at OAT - I’d like to know how you were treated and if you felt the course was beneficial (i.e. helped in the employment stakes)?
Many thanks
GS

[Megaton]

I was modular, but not OAT, and completed the MCC there a couple of years ago. The course as well run with excellent instructors and overall good fun. I don't think your choice of MCC provider is going to help you get a job though.

[9gmax]

mcc + tr

friend from flying club just enlisted in MCC + TR B733 training this summer with Sabena Flight Academy in Brussels.
I checked on the website and found following:

Summer Camp Courses 2007
As from 11 June till 13 August 2007 SFA organizes for self-sponsored trainees the following summer camp courses:

Type Rating A320: 27.900€* per trainee
Combined MCC+Type Rating Course A320: 30.500€* per trainee
Type Rating B737-300: 25.500€* per trainee
Combined MCC+Type Rating Course B737-300: 29.000€* per trainee
*prices incl. base training (6 touch and go's) and VAT. Only valid for the above mentioned period.
Interested? Send your request to: [email protected]

[jeroen994]

MCC: Turboprop or Jet?

Hi,

Does it matter if you choose to do your MCC on a turboprop or a jet? I can imagine it's an advantage with an airline which is solely using jets to have a Jet MCC, but is it also an advantage if you have a turboprop MCC with a turboprop operator?

Greetings,

Jeroen

[DownloadDog]

What to do with MCC certificate?

I've just got my MCC completion certificate. What do you have to do with it to get it on your licence?

I would ask the provider, but their administration staff are so incompetent I'm not.

Thanks in advance.

[DownloadDog]

Hi
I see on the OAT website they are offering an MCC/JOC for a mere £4.5k - has anyone any experience of doing this? Preferably somebody modular who hasn't done any previous courses at OAT - I’d like to know how you were treated and if you felt the course was beneficial (i.e. helped in the employment stakes)?
Many thanks
GS

GS,

I've recently done the MCC at OAT, the sims are pretty good as are the sim staff. The only negative side is the administration staff - they are awful.

It took me numerous phone calls and emails just to get the joining instructions for the course. They finally arrived on the Friday before and took no account of my situation. Everyone else on the course had the same experience.

On the first day I reported to reception who weren't expecting me and was taken to the MCC building and left/dumped me in the corridor as they didn't know where I should be!

The course certificate wasn't ready on the day I left and finally arrived a week and a half later. I wouldn't have minded, but I was told it was in the post a week earlier.....

Stump up the cash for the course, you'll learn a lot, just don't expect to get good service from the person who runs the show.....

[Deano777]

Downloaddog, you gon't "get it on your license", basically keep hold the certificate and present it at an interview

[BlueRobin]

Put it on your toilet wall?