Multi Crew Co-operation Course (MCC)
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I went to Bournemouth on the Tristar. Great instructors and a good insight into the two...sorry three crew environment! Born'th in the evenings wasn't too bad either You'll enjoy it, especially after that IR business.
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I'm doing my MCC at the moment with Parc in Dublin Airport. It's a very well run course, and the 20 hrs in the sim are done on the 737-200 sim in Dublin, which as somebody mentioned a few airlines are using to for assessments. I'd recommend it.
Their website is http://www.parcaviation.aero
Good luck, 1800-
Their website is http://www.parcaviation.aero
Good luck, 1800-
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I would definately recommend Jetlinx, a good operation run by current line pilots. Completed mine last month on the A320 sim, and although it does cost more than most other MCC's, felt it was worth it. They also run Jet Orientation courses, if you've already done an MCC and fancy trying a level D sim.
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hi there cant reccomend BCFT highly enough and no i dont work for them.
Had a brilliant time with them and Tony (instructor) excellent teaching manner with just the right mix of info and fun.
whole mcc course is more like a LOFT course preparing you for your next level of training.
would definately advocate taking the mcc in a full jet sim just to get used to speeds and handling of a larger jet.
I have pictures of the whole setup & facilities if you want to pm me!
Ben Walters
Had a brilliant time with them and Tony (instructor) excellent teaching manner with just the right mix of info and fun.
whole mcc course is more like a LOFT course preparing you for your next level of training.
would definately advocate taking the mcc in a full jet sim just to get used to speeds and handling of a larger jet.
I have pictures of the whole setup & facilities if you want to pm me!
Ben Walters
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Originally Posted by Spitfire2
Hi guys,
Anybody with a good plan for the MCC somewhere in the UK ? or anywhere else in europe ?
Ta
Anybody with a good plan for the MCC somewhere in the UK ? or anywhere else in europe ?
Ta
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I think they should take the super-sub rule out of the one-day game for a start. Allow two bouncers per over and open up the long room for a members only lap dancing venue twice a week.
As regards your second point, I think it would be difficult to move Lord's to anywhere else in Europe, although that nice American had a go with that bridge thingy. Didn't he like aeroplanes too?
Any takers...
As regards your second point, I think it would be difficult to move Lord's to anywhere else in Europe, although that nice American had a go with that bridge thingy. Didn't he like aeroplanes too?
Any takers...
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This one is the real MCC:
http://www.themotorcyclingclub.org.uk/
They already have a plan. Only one bouncer allowed, as many cars only have one passenger seat. I like the idea of lap-dancers though; preferably once per lap
http://www.themotorcyclingclub.org.uk/
They already have a plan. Only one bouncer allowed, as many cars only have one passenger seat. I like the idea of lap-dancers though; preferably once per lap
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I did my MCC course at the Flight Centre at Wolverhampton last April, they use a Piper Cheyenne TurboProp sim (it's an FNPT II I think). Instructor was excellent, price very reasonable. It doesn't matter what sim you did your MCC in, its the quality of the instruction that is the main thing.
Got a TurboProp job flying a month after MCC It definitely helped having done the course when it came to the type rating. (and I saved over a grand when I looked at some of the other MCC providers... )
Got a TurboProp job flying a month after MCC It definitely helped having done the course when it came to the type rating. (and I saved over a grand when I looked at some of the other MCC providers... )
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I also did mine at Wolverhampton, I found it very enjoyable, of course it is a good price (when compared to other courses) and the instructor was good, they use alot of BA SOPS so it is quite realistic.
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MCC Advice
The above is good advice BUT..... I would be tempted to pay the extra few quid and do the Mcc on jet type ie OAT with their generic 737/4 etc or several others FTO's. The reason is that many airlines will require you to do a sim check on jets (eg BA, BACX/BACON being a few). There will always be ppruners that will differ in opinion, but I think the higher speeds, spool up times etc were an advantage for me to know about. I also found that the notes (incl jet t/o briefings) were of an excellent standard too....but who am I to know, I still wait for a pointy end job!
Regards and good luck
L E!
Regards and good luck
L E!
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Good points LE now doubt. However, I found that the turboprop sim was fast enough so that you could concentrate on learning the CRM stuff which is the point of the MCC afterall. I had a sim check on a 1-11 and passed this, I practised on a 727 beforehand to get used to a jet - I spose it is horses for courses, what was right for me will be wrong for the next guy.
However, there are no grades on an MCC, it is the certificate that is important, if money is no object do it on an expensive jet, but the certificate will still say MCC attended, nothing more.
However, there are no grades on an MCC, it is the certificate that is important, if money is no object do it on an expensive jet, but the certificate will still say MCC attended, nothing more.
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You should think about doing it on a jet, yes the point of the course is the multicrew stuff but getting some handling practice on a bigger aircraft is VERY useful for a sim ride. You will get the MCC element wherever you go and the jet experience is a bonus.
But as said before, hourses for course. I did it in a jet and was very glad I did.
But as said before, hourses for course. I did it in a jet and was very glad I did.
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MCC
Completed MCC on the full motion Tristar at Bournmouth through BCFT, It was worth the extra £400 that you pay for the generic FNPT11. Excellent instruction and real Jet environment.
Again only the certificate is of relevance so take your choice, for me the Full motion jet sim was also great learning on top of the course.
Again only the certificate is of relevance so take your choice, for me the Full motion jet sim was also great learning on top of the course.
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Thanks for comments , given my age & lack of hours/ skill, a TP sim problably will be fast enough! (also unlikey to get jet job)
SNL do you have contact details for 4 Forces ( did they go bust? or am i just confused)
Cheers
VF
SNL do you have contact details for 4 Forces ( did they go bust? or am i just confused)
Cheers
VF