JAA flight training California
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From: Yorkshire
The guys said that the licence would not be valid in the UK and the 1500hrs would not count as you will not have done a UK MEIR.
An FAA licence is valid in the UK if you are flying an N. I also remeber seeing someone on here saying they had written to the CAA and they had stated that if he held an FAA ME he was entitled to fly a G Reg multi in the UK.
Having said that how can the CAA state that multi hours built abroad do not count towards TT?
Interestingly if you look at the extract below taken from the Rainbow website
The course will include:
....
The following FAA certificates and ratings: PPL-A; IR-A; CPL-SE/ME; CFI; CFII; MEI; 135 LOA (at 1200 hrs); ATPL.
The following JAA certificates and ratings: PPL-A; Cessna Citation Rating; ATPL
.....
You do not progress beyond a JAA-A PPL however you will also leave with a JAA Cessna Citiation Rating.
Can anyone elaborate how this can be achieved as I would have thought that a JAA ME would be a pre-requisite of the Type rating? Maybe someone who is on the course at the moment?
Julian
An FAA licence is valid in the UK if you are flying an N. I also remeber seeing someone on here saying they had written to the CAA and they had stated that if he held an FAA ME he was entitled to fly a G Reg multi in the UK.
Having said that how can the CAA state that multi hours built abroad do not count towards TT?
Interestingly if you look at the extract below taken from the Rainbow website
The course will include:
....
The following FAA certificates and ratings: PPL-A; IR-A; CPL-SE/ME; CFI; CFII; MEI; 135 LOA (at 1200 hrs); ATPL.
The following JAA certificates and ratings: PPL-A; Cessna Citation Rating; ATPL
.....
You do not progress beyond a JAA-A PPL however you will also leave with a JAA Cessna Citiation Rating.
Can anyone elaborate how this can be achieved as I would have thought that a JAA ME would be a pre-requisite of the Type rating? Maybe someone who is on the course at the moment?
Julian
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From: UK
You do not progress beyond a JAA-A PPL however you will also leave with a JAA Cessna Citiation Rating.
Can anyone elaborate how this can be achieved as I would have thought that a JAA ME would be a pre-requisite of the Type rating? Maybe someone who is on the course at the moment?
Can anyone elaborate how this can be achieved as I would have thought that a JAA ME would be a pre-requisite of the Type rating? Maybe someone who is on the course at the moment?
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From: Uk
The only way I can see it working is that you have to convert the FAA IR on return to the UK, also on the course you have the option of taking a type rating costing Ģ10,000 and the ATPL skills test???? Perhaps that's the JAA IR but that is not included in the total price.
Thanks for the advice thought and I think I'll be staying away from this. It doesn't feel right. I might go for NAC perhaps and they are CAA approved.
Thanks for the advice thought and I think I'll be staying away from this. It doesn't feel right. I might go for NAC perhaps and they are CAA approved.
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From: Orlando, Florida
No - NAC are not currently approved (for JAA flight training).
People are working on getting them re-approved. I, myself, have found two potential CFI's - one was declined by the CAA as unacceptable, the other changed their mind about going there.
The hunt continues.
People are working on getting them re-approved. I, myself, have found two potential CFI's - one was declined by the CAA as unacceptable, the other changed their mind about going there.
The hunt continues.
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From: Ireland
Night Rating/Hour Building in California
Hi All,
If anyone has done their Night Rating/Hour Building in California Please let me know!!
First Im told that you don't need a JAA school, then Im told you do?
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks
Tinmouse
If anyone has done their Night Rating/Hour Building in California Please let me know!!
First Im told that you don't need a JAA school, then Im told you do?
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks
Tinmouse
Flies for fun
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From: Wishing it was somewhere sunny!
No, you don't need a JAA school for hourbuilding, I guess if you want to bolt a night rating onto a JAA licence, you would need a JAA school to bolt it on for you. and then there is the visa thing! For pure cheap hourbuilding, you could do a lot worse than Universal at ElMonte. Beautiful part of the USA for hourbuilding though!
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From: Dublin
Hello tinmouse
I did my night rating in San Diego along with a multi PPL, the school is a JAA approved one and it only took the minimum hours to get it. You do however seem to need a controlled airfield for doing your solo night landings and it's nice to know that there is someone keeping an eye on you!
As for the hour building did that at the same school and had some interesting experiences! but it was reasonable!
I did my night rating in San Diego along with a multi PPL, the school is a JAA approved one and it only took the minimum hours to get it. You do however seem to need a controlled airfield for doing your solo night landings and it's nice to know that there is someone keeping an eye on you!
As for the hour building did that at the same school and had some interesting experiences! but it was reasonable!
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From: Norway
JAA CPL in the US...
Im looking for a flight school in the US that delivers JAA CPL.. Found a few in Florida, OFT, EFT and NAC..
But I prefer training on the west coast because of the !!!!ty weather in FL..
Anyone? Any recommendations/experiences with those schools?
Thanks..
But I prefer training on the west coast because of the !!!!ty weather in FL..
Anyone? Any recommendations/experiences with those schools?
Thanks..
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From: Edinburgh
flying in california
Hi, I have just graduated from uni and have had my PPL for 6 yrs. I wanted to become a professional pilot and am looking at flight schools in California. Does anyone have any experience with these schools or some helpful pearls of wisdom for me? All information very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Diana
Thanks,
Diana
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From: In a house
I'm an instructor for one of the schools you mentioned Diana so I don't think I should post specifically about it. I can comment on San Diego and flying around the SW.
The flying is great with plenty of places within reach of SD, there's LA, Vegas, Phoenix, San Fran is only 4 or so hours away. If you like to fly around nice scenery then California is a much better place to fly than Florida. The major problem you'll find is that there are no JAA CPL schools local. The only schools that do the CPL are over in Florida so that could be an issue.
<<edit: It's somehwat off topic but I've often wondered WHY there is nothing West of the Florida Gulf coastline to do JAA CPL training. There IS Oxford at Phoenix, Arizona - but they are not dedicated to the usual modular market.>>
The flying is great with plenty of places within reach of SD, there's LA, Vegas, Phoenix, San Fran is only 4 or so hours away. If you like to fly around nice scenery then California is a much better place to fly than Florida. The major problem you'll find is that there are no JAA CPL schools local. The only schools that do the CPL are over in Florida so that could be an issue.
<<edit: It's somehwat off topic but I've often wondered WHY there is nothing West of the Florida Gulf coastline to do JAA CPL training. There IS Oxford at Phoenix, Arizona - but they are not dedicated to the usual modular market.>>
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From: Venice Italy
Flight school California
Good morning guys. I've my PPL JAR and I'd like to get my CPL and ME in California (FAA). Can anybody suggest me a good school in southern California, possibly close to the beach, where I can get both?
Thanks a lot
Thanks a lot
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From: Venice Italy
Thank you guys,
B2N2 I'm going with my pregnant wife and CA is much better than FL in that time. I expect CA not so hot, so she can enjoy.
Mazzei is in Fresno, I'd like something in LA area.
Thanks anyway
B2N2 I'm going with my pregnant wife and CA is much better than FL in that time. I expect CA not so hot, so she can enjoy.
Mazzei is in Fresno, I'd like something in LA area.
Thanks anyway
Worldstratospherecitizen
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From: UUEE & LFPB
Well I did few years ago my training at Mazzei and I can tell that if you are looking for something not so hot ... forget it 
but regarding the training it's really very good .
Regards JB
but regarding the training it's really very good . Regards JB
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From: Anywhere
Myself, and a few others here, have been to http://www.angelcityflyers.com - can't recommend Seosamh and his staff highly enough - and you're close to the sea too