Stapleford

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Mikehotel152

Cheers for the info Mikehotel.

I live the wrong side of Norwich, so any flight school is going to be a treck for me. I would be away during the week and return home for the weekends. So you're right, even the 2 hr journey wouldn't be do'able on a daily basis!

I meant that I would be happy to make the longer weekly round trip if the training/facilities etc were better at Bristol and worth the extra money & distance?

It's good to hear what you say about Stapleford, apart from the horses! as I haven't heard anything bad about it yet?

Luckily, I also have an understanding wife and one that goes out to work, otherwise I wouldn't have a hope!

[Blinkz]

I actually disagree with the points made about the integrated course. At your age, as you say you are going to struggle to find an airline position. What you need to do is maximise your employability and minimise the risk. The way to do this is go integrated. It is not a magic card that will allow you to walk into a job, however it will get you your licence in the quickest way possible, whilst settting you up with a good school name on your CV as well has having the school have good connections to get you interviews. There were 3 people over 30 on my course at Oxford, 2/3 now have jobs. The problem is of course money, and whether you have a family and can afford to be away from them for 60 weeks or so.

Modular will be cheaper, but will take longer to complete and you will have no help getting interviews at all. In that situation you will be against all the younger guys on the integrated course, AS WELL as the older guys on the integrated course, and then the younger modular guys.

All in all you need to choose the route that will suit you best. Good luck with whatever you do.

[Vone Rotate]

Suggestions for CPL routes out of Stapleford

Hi all,

I'm working my way through my ATPL distance learning with London met while hour building out of Elstree. Once I have the dreaded exams done ()I'm off to Stapleford to do my CPL/ Multi IR.

What I was hoping is that some of you who have experience of the Essex/ Kent corner of the country where Stapleford train could post me some routes and diversions which they tend to use or that would benefit me as that is the area I'll need to be familiar with.

I just thought I'd ask in case people know of routes they use a lot that would be beneficial to practice etc.
I'm not so lazy that I can't be arsed to work out my own...Well not quite anyway

Thanks in advance people.......

[Hour Builder]

Got my last ATPL exam Oct 1st, and start at SFC on Oct 6th. I'll let you know when I know.

HB

[Vone Rotate]

I'll hold you to that HB

[PB4]

did my CPL at SFC, excelent bunch, you can be asked to go anywhere in the 020 - 190 sector from Stap, during the CPL, you will be asked to divert to anything really as long as it's on the map (includes highway service stations, castles etc) during the test itself, it's more likely you will be diverted to Southend as it is where you will do integration and circuits, including a departure on a specific NDB radial, then change of radial, after that it's general handling probably in the haningfield reservoir area (not sure about spelling) then back to Stap...
CPL is very demanding but still very fun, enjoy !

[markstevens]

Hey,

I'm currently doing my CPL at Stapleford now! For the Nav & Diversion routes, you will fly to all the little grass airstrips around the southeast. Some of them are almost impossible to spot, but the very reason why they make it so hard is so when you come to you CPL test, it'll seem that much easier!!

Maybe I shouldn't tell you this, but whatever, lol - The 170A (The practice CPL flight test) is to Nayland, which is about 3nm north of Colchester, and then you are diverted to Laindon, which is about 10nm west of Southend ATZ.

Hope this helps!!

Mark

[liffey2alpha]

hi Mark, just wondering roughly the cost and time span to complete the CPL and ME/IR at stapleford if starting with about 80 hrs and all ATPL theroy exams passed?not includind accom
Cheers Liffey..

[philltowns]

I did my CPL at Stapleford and for my skills test, I got Stapleford to Lewes (just NE of Brighton). I didn't actually get that far... by the time I got to Tunbridge Wells, the examiner diverted me to Chilham, a small town WSW of Canterbury. Then it was back towards Southend for GH, IF, circuits, etc.

I highly recommend Stapleford as a school... just finishing my IR with them and have been very pleased with the courses so far.

[SimJock]

PB4:

including a departure on a specific NDB radial, then change of radial

since when did NDB's have radials then ?

For my CPL from Stapleford I think I went to a small town near Maidstone, then diverted to a small airstrip North of Southend but didn't actually complete the leg as we did the circuit bit at Southend instead.

Anywhere in south east Kent is a good starter as the north Kent coast is easy to follow and the Thames difficult to miss.

I got Nayland on my 170 too and couldn't find the chuffing place due to a miscalculation in my nav log so binned it early, got somewhere different for the next 170A and that was OK.

[RITZER82]

Hi I am considering doing my modular route programme with Stapleford, has anybody got any idea what it is like there, thanks

[Hour Builder]

Try doing a search.....

[Fireboy]

I found Stapleford to be an excellent school, I completed the CPL/ME/IR July this year. The only problem I had was with instructors changing the booking sheet and not bothering to tell the student or anyone else Some instructors should try to engage brain and pick up the phone, it's not hard!!

The head of training runs a tight ship with very little bull s*it. The DA42 is an excellent aircraft for the IR but a higher standard will be expected on the test compared with the Seneca, etc. The aircraft used for the CPL are all in good condition and are fairly new.

Don't let the above problem put you off, Stapleford is still a highly professional school with some very experienced instructors to help you along way.

I hope this helps.
PM me if you want to know anymore.

[Busy Climbing]

I finished at Stapleford end of July also and agree with what was said above, although I never really got caught out with that booking sheet, I did ask for an instructor change at one point, felt I was standing still a bit on the IR, but the school were very accommodating and I was well on my way in no time.

When I was trying to decide where to go I visited Cabair at Cranfield, they had one of these open days where they're supposed to be able to answer all your questions. Well they couldn't, it was as simple as that, and at the time they were dividing modular and integrated students by fleet.... integrated would get their hands on the DA40 then DA42 for the me/ir where as modular wouldn't get the new kit. I'm sure this isn't the case anymore, I think they have an all Diamond fleet now but it's an indication that management see you as a 'different opportunity'.

I don't know about you but I couldn't go somewhere that thinks you're a better pilot or more worthy because you're willing to put all your eggs in one basket and give an extra few quid for the privilege. We all know it's not true.

What I liked about Stapleford was the atmosphere there, a bit flying club at weekends, and professional during the week, and if you fancy a beer at the end of the day with the instructors it isn't frowned upon. In fact I found it to be very social, and all the staff there are a great laugh, a nice balance of hard work in a fun environment. That's what you need if you're going to be there a while....

Only thing I didn't do there was the MCC because I felt the European Aviation course offered better value for money, but things change week to week don't they so call it as you see it!

Above all good luck and enjoy your flight training, it's costing enough!

[philltowns]

Finished my IR with them this week and have been very happy. Took me ages to decide on a school and I certainly feel I made the right decision. I highly recommend them as a school.

[atis123]

Stapleford Flight Centre

Can anyone that have done their training in London Metropolitan University or/and Stapleford Flight Centre, actually got a written reference from either of them when they finished their training. I’m looking to finalise which school to go to but I’ve discovered that some have a policy of NOT giving students a written reference after training.

Thanks

[Hour Builder]

I'm sure no school gives them out as standard-you'd have to earn it even if a school is known to have done so.

[philltowns]

Stapleford were happy for me to put the Chief Pilot's name down as a referee on my CV.

[G-SPOT]

Stapleford FC

Hello,

I'm at the point of choosing somewhere for CPL/ME/IR training and Stapleford is looking like my first option. However I know they get busy. Is anyone currently studying with them and if so, are you able to fly 5 days a week (weather permitting) or are you limited to less than this due to instructor (non) availability...?

Any advice much appreciated,

Thanks,
S

[BellyAir]

at least 5 days a week. Some work Monday to Friday and others work over the weekend in lieu of a couple of days off during the week.

it's a good school with good instructors and staff.