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Alex,
if this is the case, I don't understand why it is so. As far as I am concerned, the C.A.A. should not differentiate between a student and his/her groundschool - it's not as though they would be operating to different agendas ( if they were, I would suggest there are more important problems to be addressed than who sees the results first ). My personal opinion is that the groundschool should get the results first, which would allow instructors, who should hopefully know the personalities of each of their students, to use their years of experience in this field to deliver any bad news in as caring a way as possible, allaying any 'end of my world' notions and immediately address the next course of action to be taken.
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if this is the case, I don't understand why it is so. As far as I am concerned, the C.A.A. should not differentiate between a student and his/her groundschool - it's not as though they would be operating to different agendas ( if they were, I would suggest there are more important problems to be addressed than who sees the results first ). My personal opinion is that the groundschool should get the results first, which would allow instructors, who should hopefully know the personalities of each of their students, to use their years of experience in this field to deliver any bad news in as caring a way as possible, allaying any 'end of my world' notions and immediately address the next course of action to be taken.
Regards,
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I hope you are all joking.
I'm the customer, I'm the one taking the exams, I'm the one using the results to get a certificate issued in my name, I'm the one that can appeal the result itself, I'm the one paying for the exams. Why in the world should the school be given priority to get the exam results? It would also increase workload for the school if they would have been the first to know.
If my groundschool applies for a new approval, should the CAA send the "result" to me or the groundschool?
Personally, I see no reason why it is compulsory to use an approved ground school in the first place.
However...
I agree. If you have passed all ATPL exams but just one and fail it on your last attempt.. they should definately send out a priest knocking on your door to deliver the bad news. I\'ve heard that immediate professional counceling is needed when you are faced with such an extremely tragic occurance. How cold-hearted by the CAA to send out such a result by post.
I'm the customer, I'm the one taking the exams, I'm the one using the results to get a certificate issued in my name, I'm the one that can appeal the result itself, I'm the one paying for the exams. Why in the world should the school be given priority to get the exam results? It would also increase workload for the school if they would have been the first to know.
If my groundschool applies for a new approval, should the CAA send the "result" to me or the groundschool?
Personally, I see no reason why it is compulsory to use an approved ground school in the first place.
However...
to use their years of experience in this field to deliver any bad news in as caring a way as possible
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I think Martin1234 has it on the nose. The candidates are the customer, the CAA has a responsibility to them. I think there is a method whereby the groundschool can make the exam application on behalf of the student, then they may get the results first. It paticularly suits the integrated model. Do Oxford do that?
What happens with us is the CAA send out the results to individuals by post then they collate all our candidates results into an Excel spreadsheet and e-mail it through to me. At the earliest they arrive on the same day as the posted results, at the latest 3 or 4 working days later.
What happens with us is the CAA send out the results to individuals by post then they collate all our candidates results into an Excel spreadsheet and e-mail it through to me. At the earliest they arrive on the same day as the posted results, at the latest 3 or 4 working days later.
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Alex,
That is indeed what happens at Oxford - the school both apply for exams on behalf of the students and receive the results, to pass on to the students.
Martin1234,
I appreciate the way you are doing your training means that you may not have the same relationship with your groundschool as I do with mine, so the customer/client line is something you are clearly more aware of. From the timescale Alex mentioned about when he receives the results I would say it starts to become a chicken and egg scenario, and I can't really see the importance of being first to open that envelope.
As for your priest remark, of course it makes no difference to hard b******s like us how we receive poor results, but there are plenty of people at my school who are fairly young and lucky enough to be being heavily subsidised by family, the combination of both meaning they are under tremendous pressure not to fail. Being a fully self-funded student it would be easy for me not to have any sympathy for these students, but I do, so instructors being able to pass any poor results in a manner that lets them know their life-long ambition isn't over is no bad thing.
I hope my MET CD has served you well.
Congratulations to all those who have passed exams this time around and are that bit nearer to where they want to get to, especially wee EGAC_Ramper - travellers all over the world are sleeping better at night knowing their luggage is that bit safer from being launched into the back of aircraft at pace from your clumsy hands
. Give my regards to AP246.
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That is indeed what happens at Oxford - the school both apply for exams on behalf of the students and receive the results, to pass on to the students.
Martin1234,
I appreciate the way you are doing your training means that you may not have the same relationship with your groundschool as I do with mine, so the customer/client line is something you are clearly more aware of. From the timescale Alex mentioned about when he receives the results I would say it starts to become a chicken and egg scenario, and I can't really see the importance of being first to open that envelope.
As for your priest remark, of course it makes no difference to hard b******s like us how we receive poor results, but there are plenty of people at my school who are fairly young and lucky enough to be being heavily subsidised by family, the combination of both meaning they are under tremendous pressure not to fail. Being a fully self-funded student it would be easy for me not to have any sympathy for these students, but I do, so instructors being able to pass any poor results in a manner that lets them know their life-long ambition isn't over is no bad thing.
I hope my MET CD has served you well.
Congratulations to all those who have passed exams this time around and are that bit nearer to where they want to get to, especially wee EGAC_Ramper - travellers all over the world are sleeping better at night knowing their luggage is that bit safer from being launched into the back of aircraft at pace from your clumsy hands
. Give my regards to AP246.VC10 Rib22
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I could never understand why they couldn't just issue everyone with a random candidate number in the exam booking and then post all the results in a oner on the web. With an option you could opt out if you like. It would save the CAA money as well, unless you opt out they will only have to produce 1 bit of paper at the end when you have finished.
Unless you have told someone your number know one will know who you are. The numbers won't be traceable to a school. It will stop the phone lines getting clogged up with questions about when the results are out and then everyone will have access at the same time.
MJ
Unless you have told someone your number know one will know who you are. The numbers won't be traceable to a school. It will stop the phone lines getting clogged up with questions about when the results are out and then everyone will have access at the same time.
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You are talking about the organisation that has, over the last two years, continuously failed to put the CAPS 696, 697 and 698 on the website for download, despite agreeing to do so, because "it's not as easy as just scanning them to PDF and putting them on the website". The CAA's internal procedures seem to make anything related to IT incredibly difficult to action.
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it's not as easy as just scanning them to PDF and putting them on the website
What you will find is that the department that is to do with those publications is proberly staffed by 45-65 year old employees. Who have a black belt in job creation. They will be not very hot at using a computer and I suspect will require a training budget greater than the cost of the salary of one person who knows what they are doing.
And there is not alot you can do about them without the unions getting upset. Even if you design systems around them you can get into trouble. Unions get upset if you seem to be making them redundant.
Thinking about it the mangers proberly have a bit of a nightmare what to do with these types in a civil service enviroment, when you don't have the option of getting rid of them.
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I had to phone my g/s to find out my results as they still haven,t arrived. I think the carrier pigeon they are using has got lost!!
Has anyone else had the same problems?
Has anyone else had the same problems?
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i got my results last monday and im in ireland.
a friend of mine who did his exams with the IAA 6 months back finished his exams on a thursday and had his results following tuesday.
ive got mine done now,it was an interesting year or so! good luck to people who are currently doing them. there do-able with the right attitude!
a friend of mine who did his exams with the IAA 6 months back finished his exams on a thursday and had his results following tuesday.
ive got mine done now,it was an interesting year or so! good luck to people who are currently doing them. there do-able with the right attitude!
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Hello,
congratulation to all of you, anyone who was on the module1 BGS classroom 2 (Kristian, Gisele, Philipp, Mohamed, Brahim, ......)just to know if it was ok for you, for me thanks god it's a full success now let's go for the mod2, thanks to the teachers they are very good and very hepful.
Cheers.
congratulation to all of you, anyone who was on the module1 BGS classroom 2 (Kristian, Gisele, Philipp, Mohamed, Brahim, ......)just to know if it was ok for you, for me thanks god it's a full success now let's go for the mod2, thanks to the teachers they are very good and very hepful.
Cheers.
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In a few months' time all ATPL exams in Sweden will be taken on a computer. This will give you the possibility to take the exams whenever you feel like it and not at a predetermined day/time. You will get the result, which you do as of today as well, after you sat the exam and the result could only change for the better pending any appeal. The exams will be taken at approved testing centers with an approved invigilator. I believe that it shouldn't cost more than something in the region of £200 to get an approval of a testing center with one invigilator (which has to attend a one day course). The testing center only needs to use an internet-connected computer with a screen not smaller than 17". The candidate pays one fee to the CAA and one to the testing center which can charge whatever they can or want to.
In spite of a better examination system, I still travel from Sweden to the UK to take the exams because I rather deal with the UK CAA and a UK school. Believe it or not, this has saved me alot of headache. My worst mistake so far was to deal with the Swedish licencing department at all.
VC10 Rib22, the met CD is worth its money and hopefully does the trick to help me to pass the exam. It's a shame that the "punishment" for buying an original and not a copy is that I can't use it in my laptop which doesn't have a cdrom-player.
In spite of a better examination system, I still travel from Sweden to the UK to take the exams because I rather deal with the UK CAA and a UK school. Believe it or not, this has saved me alot of headache. My worst mistake so far was to deal with the Swedish licencing department at all.
VC10 Rib22, the met CD is worth its money and hopefully does the trick to help me to pass the exam. It's a shame that the "punishment" for buying an original and not a copy is that I can't use it in my laptop which doesn't have a cdrom-player.
