Cardiff Wales Flying Club (CWFC) Bankrupt
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people - the website was pulled down becasue it is not quite the finished article.
we were not expecting the domain name to be made public - when the site is finished I'll post on here and you can have a good look then. We'll have forums on there so you will be able to express your opinions direclty with the knowledge that it will be read daily by the management.
Thanls for the wrods of encouragemnt so far from those who have posted on here. The finished site will be a whole lot better.
Kind Regards
Jantra
we were not expecting the domain name to be made public - when the site is finished I'll post on here and you can have a good look then. We'll have forums on there so you will be able to express your opinions direclty with the knowledge that it will be read daily by the management.
Thanls for the wrods of encouragemnt so far from those who have posted on here. The finished site will be a whole lot better.
Kind Regards
Jantra
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Hi all,
I contacted aeros again this morning to finalise some arrangements for continuing my training and i can indeed confirm that they are offering free membership to all ex CWFC students.
I think this is a nice gesture on there part for us all.
I am going to Filton so if anyone else has gone over there send me a PM and let me know how you are getting on.
SDM
I contacted aeros again this morning to finalise some arrangements for continuing my training and i can indeed confirm that they are offering free membership to all ex CWFC students.
I think this is a nice gesture on there part for us all.
I am going to Filton so if anyone else has gone over there send me a PM and let me know how you are getting on.
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Sorry for letting everyone know.. I just thought if they could see what was on there it would stop alot of the uncertainty and rumours
Look forward to the official nod
Sorry for letting everyone know.. I just thought if they could see what was on there it would stop alot of the uncertainty and rumours
Look forward to the official nod
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no problem, it was only a test and the feedback received was quite encouraging. we are working hard to get it finshed - it should hold all the information on there to answer most questions and quell all rumours
toodlepip
Jantra
no problem, it was only a test and the feedback received was quite encouraging. we are working hard to get it finshed - it should hold all the information on there to answer most questions and quell all rumours
toodlepip
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http://www.cardiffacademyofaviation.co.uk/pricing.htm
From the above you can see (although its still in the development stage) that the prices look as though they will be thus:
Robin @ £100 Per Hour Solo
Diamond @ £129 Per Hour Solo
By the way if they don't want anyone to look at the site whilst its being built then why don't they just setup a test HTTP server in house running whatever they need on it like PHP, SQL etc??? Its easy enough to do, even my laptop and desktop run server software.
From the above you can see (although its still in the development stage) that the prices look as though they will be thus:
Robin @ £100 Per Hour Solo
Diamond @ £129 Per Hour Solo
By the way if they don't want anyone to look at the site whilst its being built then why don't they just setup a test HTTP server in house running whatever they need on it like PHP, SQL etc??? Its easy enough to do, even my laptop and desktop run server software.
why don't they just setup a test HTTP server in house running whatever they need on it like PHP, SQL etc??? Its easy enough to do, even my laptop and desktop run server software.
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I am absolutely amazed at the amount of apparent condemnation of Gary Jones' proposal to charge for club membership as he deems necessary. Surely those involved in GA appreciate the costs associated with establishing a club which will have longevity of tenure and provide a stable base for growth and expansion...I do not for a moment imagine you wish to find yourselves collectively in the same position as you did with CFWC in 12 months time??
I suggest you collectively direct your energies to ensure he and the Academy succeeds in the coming crucial weeks and months.
SW
I suggest you collectively direct your energies to ensure he and the Academy succeeds in the coming crucial weeks and months.
SW
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I am with you SW - very disappointed to see so much negativity and back-biting.
I guess everyone else can do it so much better. Makes you wonder why they didn't do it themselves, doesn't it?
I guess everyone else can do it so much better. Makes you wonder why they didn't do it themselves, doesn't it?
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This is a message taken off the CWFC forum page.......
Hi fellow Members,
As your newest recruit and full of Canadian enthusiasm Im placing another message....
Are You fed Up? Well of course you are... Your little flying club has gone Belly Up... Big Deal.
Now's the time to show initiative, grab the bull by the horns and do something about it.
Let me tell you a Story... Back in the days not to long after Orville and Wilbur, the members of the Cambrian Flying Club were getting a little fed up that after paying there tuition fee's to learn to fly Terrahawks, and being promised time and time again that a suitable touring acft was on its way they to got a little fed up. A group got together and formed the Private Flying Group. I can see their faces now. Dave Howell's, Mike Flynn, Neil Hazell, Mike Shoukris, Tony Williams, Tony Griffiths, Richard Baker, Don Jones, Graham Jones, and Im sure some others I have failed to name..."To these forgotten names I appologise" These were the guy's who gave us all the Cardiff Wales Flying Club. At the time the Cambrian Flying Club was owned by Niall McGarrie and as a buisness man who needed a return from his investment the safest way was through training acft. Whilst Niall had no objection to owners operating there own Acft it came as a shock when the PFG leased in a Tourer and asked one of his QFI's to train them on Type. He was Steve Matthews and shortly afterwards was informed by Niall that he was out of work. Steve turned to the PFG and they responded, now not only were the PFG getting their 4 seater but a training PA38 to allow Steve to continue with his trade... I really cant remember all of these years later if G-ESSX came first or a C172 G-BFGD? And did we have G-BGXB or the other Mark 1. that was Orange and White and not the red and White of XB... "OK, so your all saying XB was Blue and White" well that came a couple of years later when Dave Howells and I sat in his Architects Offices preparing the monthly News Letter at 3am one morning, and Dave told me the Owner was going to pay for a Paint Job...Anyway after XB or the other, and SX or GD, we were established and on our way... G-BNNS came next. Dave LLoyd,Mike Flynn, nigel Hughes and I all flew in ESSX to collect her from the Midlands. Dave then formed A.T. Aviation to assist the club and build a fleet that we could use or dispose of at our discrettion and along came G-BMKE PA28RT-201, G-BNUY,G-BOHN,G-BPPR,G-BPPD,G-BPPG. All Tomahawks. PD, I smashed up. But I seen her the last time I was in the U.K. and still in servise...
You see these were the fun years of CWFC... At 3 in the morning we sat and prepared News Letters, we kept flying cheap by living in a portacabin, and making do with a kettle. We had our own Met Dept... We each had Mark.1. Eyeballs and a telephone to call the tower. As the membership grew so did the fleet, as the before mentioned grew so did the portacabins. We had a fantastic little flying Club...and Soon Cambrian was gone, and we were No.1....Along came the great Dai Jones with Glamorgan flying club and their extra liberal ways and they soon vanished, others came,tried,and departed... Our success was built on friendship,reliability, and the fact that the only profit required was an operating profit. We had no shareholders, debt's, or huge rents. Those of you there then will remember these happy day's.
So where do you guys the pilots of Cardiff go next? Swansea? Staverton? Next Door if there's another club?
No.
Do as we did all those years ago and learn from the mistakes made over the last few years... Keep it simple and cheap...
Start Again....Keep your overheads as low as you can, lease in the bare minimum of Acft. And what ever you do... Dont involve those who think they have run an Airline to deal with a flying Club... They are totally different Buisnesses.
Since my first post earlier today i have received two mails from guy's I knew at CWFC... 1 now flies the A320 and the other Captains the RJ100... Ordinary people that joined a very simple flying club... And have proven that keeping it simple meant they could complete there training with 1 flying school, go on and promote what they learnt from the Cardiff Wales Flying Club...
My friends go forward and kick Ass. Show me that what we did all those years ago has'nt been for nothing... Give me CWFC 2005 or a better name.
Go Cardiff Go...
And if any more of you remember me...Get in Touch....
Regard's
Ian Miller. "Canada"
Hi fellow Members,
As your newest recruit and full of Canadian enthusiasm Im placing another message....
Are You fed Up? Well of course you are... Your little flying club has gone Belly Up... Big Deal.
Now's the time to show initiative, grab the bull by the horns and do something about it.
Let me tell you a Story... Back in the days not to long after Orville and Wilbur, the members of the Cambrian Flying Club were getting a little fed up that after paying there tuition fee's to learn to fly Terrahawks, and being promised time and time again that a suitable touring acft was on its way they to got a little fed up. A group got together and formed the Private Flying Group. I can see their faces now. Dave Howell's, Mike Flynn, Neil Hazell, Mike Shoukris, Tony Williams, Tony Griffiths, Richard Baker, Don Jones, Graham Jones, and Im sure some others I have failed to name..."To these forgotten names I appologise" These were the guy's who gave us all the Cardiff Wales Flying Club. At the time the Cambrian Flying Club was owned by Niall McGarrie and as a buisness man who needed a return from his investment the safest way was through training acft. Whilst Niall had no objection to owners operating there own Acft it came as a shock when the PFG leased in a Tourer and asked one of his QFI's to train them on Type. He was Steve Matthews and shortly afterwards was informed by Niall that he was out of work. Steve turned to the PFG and they responded, now not only were the PFG getting their 4 seater but a training PA38 to allow Steve to continue with his trade... I really cant remember all of these years later if G-ESSX came first or a C172 G-BFGD? And did we have G-BGXB or the other Mark 1. that was Orange and White and not the red and White of XB... "OK, so your all saying XB was Blue and White" well that came a couple of years later when Dave Howells and I sat in his Architects Offices preparing the monthly News Letter at 3am one morning, and Dave told me the Owner was going to pay for a Paint Job...Anyway after XB or the other, and SX or GD, we were established and on our way... G-BNNS came next. Dave LLoyd,Mike Flynn, nigel Hughes and I all flew in ESSX to collect her from the Midlands. Dave then formed A.T. Aviation to assist the club and build a fleet that we could use or dispose of at our discrettion and along came G-BMKE PA28RT-201, G-BNUY,G-BOHN,G-BPPR,G-BPPD,G-BPPG. All Tomahawks. PD, I smashed up. But I seen her the last time I was in the U.K. and still in servise...
You see these were the fun years of CWFC... At 3 in the morning we sat and prepared News Letters, we kept flying cheap by living in a portacabin, and making do with a kettle. We had our own Met Dept... We each had Mark.1. Eyeballs and a telephone to call the tower. As the membership grew so did the fleet, as the before mentioned grew so did the portacabins. We had a fantastic little flying Club...and Soon Cambrian was gone, and we were No.1....Along came the great Dai Jones with Glamorgan flying club and their extra liberal ways and they soon vanished, others came,tried,and departed... Our success was built on friendship,reliability, and the fact that the only profit required was an operating profit. We had no shareholders, debt's, or huge rents. Those of you there then will remember these happy day's.
So where do you guys the pilots of Cardiff go next? Swansea? Staverton? Next Door if there's another club?
No.
Do as we did all those years ago and learn from the mistakes made over the last few years... Keep it simple and cheap...
Start Again....Keep your overheads as low as you can, lease in the bare minimum of Acft. And what ever you do... Dont involve those who think they have run an Airline to deal with a flying Club... They are totally different Buisnesses.
Since my first post earlier today i have received two mails from guy's I knew at CWFC... 1 now flies the A320 and the other Captains the RJ100... Ordinary people that joined a very simple flying club... And have proven that keeping it simple meant they could complete there training with 1 flying school, go on and promote what they learnt from the Cardiff Wales Flying Club...
My friends go forward and kick Ass. Show me that what we did all those years ago has'nt been for nothing... Give me CWFC 2005 or a better name.
Go Cardiff Go...
And if any more of you remember me...Get in Touch....
Regard's
Ian Miller. "Canada"
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Well, the opening night went well, good turnout, good food, and good wine. The place has been transformed into something you have to see to believe. Good to see so many old faces again, and to have a good chat with.
May I congratulate Gary, and his team, for making GA from Cardiff once again possible, and for providing a place with a fantastic future.
So, on behalf of current, and future member's, Thank You.
May I congratulate Gary, and his team, for making GA from Cardiff once again possible, and for providing a place with a fantastic future.
So, on behalf of current, and future member's, Thank You.
