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Naples Air Centre
Guys, I'm seriously considering going to Naples Air Centre in Florida early next year to do my CPL. They look quite good and was hoping some of you may have done a CPL at NAC or visited recently?
So, does anyone know:
Quality of Instruction?
How ancient are their aircraft?
How money grabbing are they?
Is accommodation nearby?
Advice will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Biscuit
So, does anyone know:
Quality of Instruction?
How ancient are their aircraft?
How money grabbing are they?
Is accommodation nearby?
Advice will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Biscuit
i did my JAR SE CPL in May this year using the warrior and arrow, passed first time in the minimum time.
aeroplanes are well maintained, all nav instruments work well, never missed a fligt due to ac going tech.
weather was ace, meant i got it done in 23 days (weekends off to relax)
the instructors for the JAA CPL are very experienced guys with thousands of hours,
school insists you stay in credit whilst flying, do not want it all upfront which is a bonus.
accommodation is 4 mins drive or 10 mins cycle away and is nice, spacious with swimming pool, kitchen etc.. (See website)
PM if you wanna know more
Spitty
aeroplanes are well maintained, all nav instruments work well, never missed a fligt due to ac going tech.
weather was ace, meant i got it done in 23 days (weekends off to relax)
the instructors for the JAA CPL are very experienced guys with thousands of hours,
school insists you stay in credit whilst flying, do not want it all upfront which is a bonus.
accommodation is 4 mins drive or 10 mins cycle away and is nice, spacious with swimming pool, kitchen etc.. (See website)
PM if you wanna know more
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Spitty,
10 mins cycle to the school!? What did you have a super sports racer with 35 gears and the wind behind you!?
Me thinks you just drove the Dodge Viper there every day 
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Buscuit, as Spit says, pretty good all round mate, been their twice myself, and enjoyed every minute of it. Don't think you can go wrong with NAC.
By the way, lots said about NAC here, may be worth doing a search to get more input from other people.
Enjoy it.
10 mins cycle to the school!? What did you have a super sports racer with 35 gears and the wind behind you!?
Me thinks you just drove the Dodge Viper there every day .Buscuit, as Spit says, pretty good all round mate, been their twice myself, and enjoyed every minute of it. Don't think you can go wrong with NAC.
By the way, lots said about NAC here, may be worth doing a search to get more input from other people.
Enjoy it.
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Hi Cat3C,
10 minutes is probably do-able... I can cycle from the Wellesley Inn to Naples Air Center well within 15 minutes and that is taking it leisurely with a big heavy ruck sack on my back. I don't go all the way to Davis Blvd on Airport Pulling Road, I cut down a side road but its basically the same distance as the main road. Oh yes and that is using the supplied cycles with the hardest seats you could possibly sit on!!!
Mind you I used to be a very keen cyclist, I still am keen but haven't really been cycling much lately. Lately means since I bought my car first car at the age of twenty six last October...
I believe some of NACs student accommodation (not the complex just off Davis Blvd) are closer to NAC than the Wellesley Inn.
Next trip (in October) will see me hiring a car for the duration (I need one to get back and forth to Orlando anyway for the exams).
Best wishes,
Charlie Zulu.
10 minutes is probably do-able... I can cycle from the Wellesley Inn to Naples Air Center well within 15 minutes and that is taking it leisurely with a big heavy ruck sack on my back. I don't go all the way to Davis Blvd on Airport Pulling Road, I cut down a side road but its basically the same distance as the main road. Oh yes and that is using the supplied cycles with the hardest seats you could possibly sit on!!!
Mind you I used to be a very keen cyclist, I still am keen but haven't really been cycling much lately. Lately means since I bought my car first car at the age of twenty six last October...
I believe some of NACs student accommodation (not the complex just off Davis Blvd) are closer to NAC than the Wellesley Inn.
Next trip (in October) will see me hiring a car for the duration (I need one to get back and forth to Orlando anyway for the exams).
Best wishes,
Charlie Zulu.
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CZ,
Mmmmm.......you must have had the school bike with reheat and air conditioning.
The old Wellsley Inn, brings back memories, flying over the top making the approach onto runway 05, wish I was there now in the sunshine!!
Enjoy when you return in October. Have a bud for me down 5th Av.
Mmmmm.......you must have had the school bike with reheat and air conditioning
.The old Wellsley Inn, brings back memories, flying over the top making the approach onto runway 05, wish I was there now in the sunshine!!
Enjoy when you return in October. Have a bud for me down 5th Av.
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I have just returned from NAC after completing my 25 hr JAA CPL in 2 weeks.
The school has a distinct European feel, with a very strong English ownership, run by people who genuinely want to help us out.
Andrew the CPL instructor is amongst the best I've seen, a genuine guy doing it because he wants to and not for hours, an Englishman who has taught up to IR level back here, with a very easy going personallity.
They have 3 warriors and 2 Arrows all in good condition and having their own maintenance problem, any problems, which of course do occur are sorted there and then and 9 times out of ten the a/c are flying again the same day.
The whole two weeks cost just short of £4,500 as opposed to about 6k back here. But that price included £700 to BA, £637 to the CAA, £200 for car hire.
All in all I cant fault them and given my time again would go back every time. I assure you I do not work for them!! In fact my user name is my real name, feel free to call them and get my number. Having been in your situation a few weeks ago I wish someone could have given me a straight answer, instead of some of the stuff you get on this site.
Good luck
Joe
The school has a distinct European feel, with a very strong English ownership, run by people who genuinely want to help us out.
Andrew the CPL instructor is amongst the best I've seen, a genuine guy doing it because he wants to and not for hours, an Englishman who has taught up to IR level back here, with a very easy going personallity.
They have 3 warriors and 2 Arrows all in good condition and having their own maintenance problem, any problems, which of course do occur are sorted there and then and 9 times out of ten the a/c are flying again the same day.
The whole two weeks cost just short of £4,500 as opposed to about 6k back here. But that price included £700 to BA, £637 to the CAA, £200 for car hire.
All in all I cant fault them and given my time again would go back every time. I assure you I do not work for them!! In fact my user name is my real name, feel free to call them and get my number. Having been in your situation a few weeks ago I wish someone could have given me a straight answer, instead of some of the stuff you get on this site.
Good luck
Joe
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My bike was a good old Walmart 50$ special.. no ac, no lycoming flat 6, no turbo charger, just pure muscle power...!
i could easily make the school in 10 mins, normally cos i was late !! so a little extra effort was needed,
the dodge viper was used on friday nights only to try and impress the un-impressable in 5th avenue !
Is Jatin still teaching the CPL ??
Spitty
My bike was a good old Walmart 50$ special.. no ac, no lycoming flat 6, no turbo charger, just pure muscle power...!
i could easily make the school in 10 mins, normally cos i was late !! so a little extra effort was needed,
the dodge viper was used on friday nights only to try and impress the un-impressable in 5th avenue !
Is Jatin still teaching the CPL ??
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JAA PPL/CPL-IR-ME
Has anybody done a JAA PPL/CPL-IR-ME at NAC?
Do they offer a package which includes the mentioned above?
And what about the conversions? Do they convert from FAA to JAA while doing the course there?
On their website they have the "Career Pilot Program for JAA Pilot Licences " but it includes also the ATPL ground school.
What about North American Institute of Aviation. Is it a JAA approved Flight Training Organization?
Regards
LikAir
Do they offer a package which includes the mentioned above?
And what about the conversions? Do they convert from FAA to JAA while doing the course there?
On their website they have the "Career Pilot Program for JAA Pilot Licences " but it includes also the ATPL ground school.
What about North American Institute of Aviation. Is it a JAA approved Flight Training Organization?
Regards
LikAir
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Hi,
I did my ppl there a while back and the place was fantastic. I stayed in the Wellesley, which was very well priced and the accomodation was great. Breakfast was a bit boring though. I did my ppl from zero hours in 21 days.
Just a tip that I found great, instead of hiring their crappy bikes, pop to walmart and buy a bike! You can get one for around $80 and then sell it to someone when you leave. I did that and then sole it for $60 when I left. Its much cheaper and you get a brand new bike! If there is no one to sell it to, the school may buy it from you too.
Have fun in Naples!
I did my ppl there a while back and the place was fantastic. I stayed in the Wellesley, which was very well priced and the accomodation was great. Breakfast was a bit boring though. I did my ppl from zero hours in 21 days.
Just a tip that I found great, instead of hiring their crappy bikes, pop to walmart and buy a bike! You can get one for around $80 and then sell it to someone when you leave. I did that and then sole it for $60 when I left. Its much cheaper and you get a brand new bike! If there is no one to sell it to, the school may buy it from you too.
Have fun in Naples!
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FAA to JAA PPL/CPL ME IR
Hello
just some questions to clarify regarding gaining a CPL with ME+IR licences abroad, in the United States.
So:
if one wants to study up to commerical level in the USA for FAA licenses and then converted to JAA Licenses. Assuming 0hours, starting from PPL. This means doing the theoretical and practical up to CPL in US. It will also include the CPL ME + IR (multi engine and Instrument Rating).
The doubts are;
Is it approved to have a converted JAA CPL with ME+IR gained outside a JAA state (i.e. USA or any non JAA member state) and use it in any other JAA member state ?
Does the system (JAA-JAR) states that if flight training did not take place into a JAA country, the license isn't fully JAR compliant?
If yes, which JAA counties do not approve JAA license that did not take place in a JAA member state?
Will the Instrument Rating be valid to use in any other JAA Member state, if done in USA or it must be done in any JAA member state to be vaild?
If there's any JAA - JAR documents that you recommend to take note of please mention them.
Thanks for your attention.
Regards
L|kA|r
just some questions to clarify regarding gaining a CPL with ME+IR licences abroad, in the United States.
So:
if one wants to study up to commerical level in the USA for FAA licenses and then converted to JAA Licenses. Assuming 0hours, starting from PPL. This means doing the theoretical and practical up to CPL in US. It will also include the CPL ME + IR (multi engine and Instrument Rating).
The doubts are;
Is it approved to have a converted JAA CPL with ME+IR gained outside a JAA state (i.e. USA or any non JAA member state) and use it in any other JAA member state ?
Does the system (JAA-JAR) states that if flight training did not take place into a JAA country, the license isn't fully JAR compliant?
If yes, which JAA counties do not approve JAA license that did not take place in a JAA member state?
Will the Instrument Rating be valid to use in any other JAA Member state, if done in USA or it must be done in any JAA member state to be vaild?
If there's any JAA - JAR documents that you recommend to take note of please mention them.
Thanks for your attention.
Regards
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Hi Likair,
It is possible to obtain an FAA CPL/IR SEP MEP and convert it to the JAA CPL/IR etc... you will then end up with a full FAA and JAA licence.
You are able to undertake the JAA PPL, Night, CPL, FI(R) and ATPL Groundschool courses outside of the JAA member states as long as the school you attend is JAA approved. At the moment the only regulatory authority that approves schools outside of its own borders is that of the UK CAA.
However you MUST take the JAA IR flight test in European airspace. So you are NOT able to take the JAA IR outside of Europe.
Although if you have an FAA Multi IR then you are able to take a 15 hour JAA IR conversion course. This will still lead to the same JAA IR as someone who has completed the full 50 / 55 hour JAA IR course as it'll be exactly the same flight test.
I have read somewhere that this maybe the case but I believe it was on pprune and it may have been rumours so unsure. Rest assured that the UK CAA will issue you with a full JAA licence even if you carried out some of your training in the USA.
If you are looking to carry out any JAA training in the USA then I would fully recommend you looking at the UK CAA Lasors document because invariably if you are at a JAA school in the USA you'll be training under the UK CAA authority. Lasors is available online at the address below.
http://www.caa.co.uk/publications/pu...ls.asp?id=1191
Hope this helps.
Best wishes,
Charlie Zulu.
if one wants to study up to commerical level in the USA for FAA licenses and then converted to JAA Licenses. Assuming 0hours, starting from PPL. This means doing the theoretical and practical up to CPL in US. It will also include the CPL ME + IR (multi engine and Instrument Rating).
You are able to undertake the JAA PPL, Night, CPL, FI(R) and ATPL Groundschool courses outside of the JAA member states as long as the school you attend is JAA approved. At the moment the only regulatory authority that approves schools outside of its own borders is that of the UK CAA.
However you MUST take the JAA IR flight test in European airspace. So you are NOT able to take the JAA IR outside of Europe.
Although if you have an FAA Multi IR then you are able to take a 15 hour JAA IR conversion course. This will still lead to the same JAA IR as someone who has completed the full 50 / 55 hour JAA IR course as it'll be exactly the same flight test.
Does the system (JAA-JAR) states that if flight training did not take place into a JAA country, the license isn't fully JAR compliant?
If there's any JAA - JAR documents that you recommend to take note of please mention them.
http://www.caa.co.uk/publications/pu...ls.asp?id=1191
Hope this helps.
Best wishes,
Charlie Zulu.