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rustle 4th July 2006 15:11


Originally Posted by IO540
Almost nobody (outside those who spend their lives on these internet forums) had heard of it back then.

I know Shoreham is a bit backward, what with its quaint buildings and stuff, but surely they had a computer in the clubhouse? ;)

Everyone I spoke to knew about it -- and none of them post(ed <= 2002) here or on FLYER.

Are you sure you're not generalising just a smidgen? :suspect:

Pudnucker 4th July 2006 15:40

Agree....

No-one taught me how to use the AIS site..... Seriously, probably best to let a teenage son work it out then show you how to use it :)

IO540 4th July 2006 17:09

I know Shoreham is a bit backward, what with its quaint buildings and stuff, but surely they had a computer in the clubhouse

Did I mention Shoreham, Rustle? My recollection of my training (the location is irrelevant) is that notams were not taught at all, internet was not available (except in one school which folded shortly afterwards and where any aircraft owner was banned from using the facilities), and the tower briefing terminal was a PC hacked to work only for MET and flight plan filing.

Talking of Shoreham, my (vague) recollection of the pilot briefing room there is that internet is not available and this is true for most UK GA airfields. That's why I nowadays never bother with what they call "pilot briefing facilities" at any airport - a laptop with GPRS is a far better way to do it.

Yes of course I am generalising. I am using plenty of words like "almost", "nearly", etc. You are just taking it literally/personally. But this is the problem: the general situation is that a lot of pilots out there don't know they should collect their preflight briefings in this way, but the "establishment" assumes that everybody knows about it. As indeed do all the righteous people on here (and flyer.co.uk, and elsewhere) who immediately have a go at somebody, automatically assuming he is an idiot.

My experience from training, and from meeting other pilots, is that while some are right clowns (and will probably end up in the side of a hill) most are completely normal and far from stupid. Their "fault" is that they were trained in another age, and their contact with these new fangled developments is very minimal.

As regards who has or has not posted on flyer.co.uk, this means nothing because most people use nicknames, and far more people read those forums than ever write anything.

englishal 4th July 2006 17:37


My recollection of my training (the location is irrelevant) is that notams were not taught at all, internet was not available
You should have done it in America ;) In 2000, we had DUATs internet access and weather plots, and 1800WXBrief to give us weather briefs and notams before every single flight......

But then again, we are inferior pilots

Fuji Abound 4th July 2006 20:54

"Everyone I spoke to knew about it"

Everyone I spoke to agreed the world is flat. So true if your sample was drawn from the flat world society :) .

Unfortunately not the most scientific way of reaching a conclusion other than the one you would prefer. :) :)

rustle 4th July 2006 20:56


Originally Posted by Fuji Abound
"Everyone I spoke to knew about it"

Everyone I spoke to agreed the world is flat. So true if your sample was drawn from the flat world society :) .

Unfortunately not the most scientific way of reaching a conclusion other than the one you would prefer. :) :)

About as scientific as

Originally Posted by IO540
Almost nobody (outside those who spend their lives on these internet forums) had heard of it back then.

:ugh:

Fuji Abound 4th July 2006 21:09

The answer surely is if everybody hadnt assumed nobody knew then more people would have known :confused: .

rustle 4th July 2006 21:38


Originally Posted by Fuji Abound
The answer surely is if everybody hadnt assumed nobody knew then more people would have known :confused: .

WTF? :confused:

surely not 5th July 2006 11:09

precisely correct Fuji :ok: :ok:

Fuji Abound 5th July 2006 14:42

Surely - glad you liked it!:)

tangovictor 5th July 2006 14:54

excellent highjacking of a thread !


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