MaxR You said quote/ Have you flown twelve hours in the last 2 years, one of them with an instructor? /quote

the requirement is - note the 'and'

1. At least 12 hours flight time as PIC, including 12 take-offs and landings; and
2. Refresher training of at least 1 hour of total flight time with an instructor.

so 13 hours

A mountain rating on an LAPL(A) has a validity period. Revalidation & renewals should be entered on the revalidation pages.

Everything else for an LAPL(A) either has no expiry (aerobatics, night) or has recency requirements (tow, SEP & TMG privileges) for which logbook evidence is sufficient.

Well, every day's a school day cotterpot, every day's a school day. I hadn't spotted that. Sorry for asking what made you think I didn't know it because clearly I didn't. I don't have a LAPL - holding on to my NPPL for now - but have thought about possibly getting a LAPL and I don't think I'd have spotted that so would have happily flown around illegally - like about 50% of pilots judging by the confusion which seems to rein. I am grateful to you for pointing out what I had missed right under my nose.

Surely, if they really put some effort into it, EASA rulemakers could make the subject of PPL and LAPL licence currency much more convoluted than it presently is.

Slight thread drift but an interesting point that cotterpot raised was that you actually need 13 hours: 12 as PIC plus an hour with an instructor. As that is different from the NPPL, those who have converted may easily be caught out. The NPPL revalidation requirements being:

(i) flown at least 12 hours which includes at least 8 hours as pilot in command;
(ii) completed at least 12 take-offs and 12 landings;
(iii) undertaken at least one hour of flying training with an instructor entitled to give instruction on aeroplanes of that class; and
(iv) flown at least six hours in the 12 months preceding the specified date

That table suggests that you DO need the instructor's signature in your logbook- I have always asked for that anyway!

However, still no clarification whether it can be a non-UK (European) instructor with a UK issued LAPL(A). My guess, since the rules are silent on the issue, would be it can. Unless someone knows different....

DaveW

That's a really useful chart but it doesn't highlight the point that I had missed (and which cotterpot pointed out) which is that the LAPL actually requires 13 hours unlike the NPPL where 12 means 12. Of course, the fact that the LAPL requires all 12 hours to be PIC should be a big enough clue for those not quite so slow witted as I.

Thanks.

It doesn't highlight the myriad differences between other licence/rating combinations either, but they are all there.

It couldn't highlight all those things, otherwise it would be even more unwieldy than it already is.

Agreed and, as I say, really useful .