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Lang Kidby's Avro Avian VH-UFZ was rebuilt in less than 8 weeks after being similarly seriously damaged in a landing accident in the UK a few years ago. I seem to recall the wings were torn off after it swung off the strip into standing crops at Milden.
Can't find a pic but memory has a wingless fuselage lying on its side. Several UK restoration companies put their backs in to the work and I doubt they had much in the way of spare parts to hand. Lang subsequently flew it home to Australia. |
And...
Let's not forget the Light Aircraft Association and its award to TCT for her "Feat of Navigation" using a top-shelf GPS setup. She even got lost on a local flight to Goodwood, for gawsake! "GREAT" Britain, indeed. |
One of the problems faced by those who accuse TCT of lying is that much of what has been written about her exploits and claims has been published not by her, but instead by those who are merely reporting "her story." This gives TCT the opportunity to claim that she didn't actually say this or that, and that she has been "misrepresented" or that she was "misunderstood."
There do however seem to be a few facts that she cannot now defend, and notable among these are the repetition that it is "her" Stearman. Are we absolutely sure that the aircraft does not belong to her? In my opinion though the most strikingly obvious false claim is that which was printed on the backdrop she often stood in front of while peddling her so called motivational speeches. I can't lay my hands on the photo right now, but I would love to hear her explain away the headline it featured, which read ALONE IN A BI-PLANE, alongside the route flown from Goodwood to South Africa. I wonder if her future speaking engagements will feature the same backdrop, but with a pop up "clarification" similar to that which now appears on her web site? |
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No, no, no.
You are just not being open-minded and charitable, deefer! That backdrop was all the fault of some incompetent, over-enthusiastic hack - just like the rest of the media which 'misread' her press-releases. What she really meant to say was, simply that she was .. "alone in a cock-pit" **.. OK? All of the original material disseminated by her through her media and PR machine is on record. She just wishes it wasn't and is counting on people's short memories and charitable natures. Unfortunately .. the Ignoble Company of Witch-Hunters is noted for neither its charity nor short memory. ** Oh, I see, somebody's trying to be smart and kicked in an auto-censor on here now..... Well, I really think that TCT's copy-writer is the one that should be spoken to about that. The words I repeatedly typed were .. "a.l.o.n.e. i.n. a. c.o.c.k.-.p.i.t." What's next? .. Is bi-plane going to be considered risqué? . |
I agree deefer dog....the journo's will only print what they are told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBe_guezGGc ......but when the truth cumes out, an accurate story usually emerges, with lasting consequences. :-) |
When you say journo's will only print what they are told you misunderstand the system of newsgathering as it is called these days.
Most of what you read,see and hear in news these days comes via news agencies. The two big international tv and print players are Reuters and Associated Press. ( I have worked for both as a global tv news editor) Below them come countries news agencies then local news agencies. This system is best described as a consolidated approach to gathing news the old fashioned way. People on the ground cost a lot of money and are not cost effective. The internet has changed newsgathing in a big way so strands like this reveal stories that would cost thousands to research. However the downside is the media is a big hungrey animal that needs feeding 24/7. Every day space needs to be filled. The soft underbelly is exploited by the PR companies who produce glossy pictures video and stories that promote their assets easier and cheaper than paid advertising. Indeed we now have a term for this. Advertorial. It crosses the boundary between real stories and commercial press releases. I guess the old saying still applies.. Don't believe everything you read. |
Deefer is right, she can obfuscate, dodge and blame others for misunderstanding her terminology or relaying the wrong message on the "solo" or "sole pilot flying the plane " thing, but the pic that Jay just put up is without a doubt the smoking gun for her BS and lies.
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The Plot Thickens.
Stanwell (your #858),
...Re the 'unsuccessful take-off' at Winslow. Danny42C had, earlier in this thread, suggested that, in light of his experience with PT-17s, the prop could have inadvertently, prematurely been knocked into coarse pitch... ...Has anybody heard anything more that would account for the claimed 300rpm drop?... <two-speed hydraulic propellors method of operation> Select: <AIRCRAFT PROPELLER CONTROL AND OPERATION www.thaitechnics.com/propeller/prop_control.htmlCachedSimilar> I clearly remember that a parked Harvard would always have the bobs "in", cylinder "back" (min rpm) = coarse pitch, although the cockpit levers were at max on shut down. When engine started and oil pressure came on, prop cyl moved forward, bobs moved out and prop turned to max rpm (fine pitch). Can't recall how a BT-13 two-speed prop behaved, but no reason to be any different. Question: If a two-speed were stopped dead, "shock-loaded", in an accident, with oil pressure still in the system, and cockpit lever in 'fine', would the prop still be in fine patch ? If so, what if it were found to be in "coarse" - what then ? ............................................ India Four Two (your #860), ...Quote: Danny42C had, earlier in this thread, suggested that, in light of his experience with PT-17s, the prop could have inadvertently, prematurely been knocked into coarse pitch Not a PT-17 (as above). Danny. |
Piperboy, yours and deefer's thoughts would, and could, arguably be accepted if this was just one or two journo's whom misunderstood her.
It's not though, is it. I have counted at least 15 different sources. Consider this...this thread has been brought to her attention. She disagrees with what has been said and then makes a 'statement' in a failed attempt of covering her deceit. If she was misunderstood that much, she would have read what had been said and made a similar 'statement' long before this thread started. If she had said, "I fancied a long jolly to Australia. I approached EG as he had a stupendous Stearman. I approached Artemis for funds to buy our Avgas. The job was a good'en. I was nothing more than Ewald's companion and we shared jollies on the stick together." But I doubt that would have deserved any awards. |
Latest on her great pioneering adventures :
The BAE Systems Brough Centenary Lecture ? Amy Johnson Festival I hope Yorkshire will expose the bird. |
She really needs to try and keep the story the same.
Her wiki entry states In 2013, Curtis-Taylor flew a Boeing-Stearman Model 75 biplane in an eight week journey, covering over 13,000 km, from Cape Town, South Africa to Goodwood Aerodrome, England. The journey comprised a total of 38 legs and 110 flying hours. However the graphic she is standing in front of above states 32 legs.link 872 The solo bit she concedes was not solo as Ewald was on board. However the average over the six week trip was less than two hours a day. No exactly punishing flying or hardship. |
Thanks for finding it Jay, but for the record do you know when it was taken, and where? Was it definitely after the flight?
(I'm of course referring to that backdrop with the claim of her being alone in the aircraft, the one she cannot remove from cyberspace). |
Stanwell,
My earlier #877 refers. Had a look at second pic (#864) of the prang. Zoomed in as far as possible, and got out trusty magnifying glass (my eyesight is not what it once was !) Cylinder seems to have been broken off. (piston visible) But bob on this side appears to be "in", and the inner third of both the prop blades seem to be in "coarse" position. There will be engineer hydraulic prop experts reading this. Comment ? And isn't this a perfect example of the old jest: "Three-pointer ?"........."Yes - both wingtips and the prop !" Danny. |
Ah, thank you, Detective-Superintendent Danny (Forensic Branch).
Hopefully a techie with Hamilton-Standard knowledge will notice this and give us a steer. NearlyStol, your post #879.. Thanks for that tid-bit. BAe Systems, then, is another crowd of scam-facilitators to go on the ICWH's mailing list. |
Honourable Company Of Air Pilots
I am puzzled by the award letter to Tracey Curtis Taylor by the Master Chris Ford in January.
Posted again to save you spooling back. Peter Ford clearly gave her his Masters Medal based on what he knew in January. The terms of reference for this award are; Awarded to any person in aviation for an act or other achievement in aviation considered worthy of the Medal as soon as the facts are clear. "The award is in recognition of the great feat of aviation you have completed. Throughout your flight from the UK to Australia during which,by all accounts, you overcame many unforeseen obstacles in very testing conditions,displayed stoic endurance,perseverance and commendable airman ship,you demonstrated the ethos and spirit of adventure which many aviator strive for throughout their careers. I am so very pleased,that you as an upper Freeman of our Company,have safely achieved this feat which is deservedly worthy of the award. Now we have the statement from Peter Benn the current Master to Dave Jarvis the Daily Mail journalist who wrote this. 'Solo' flying poster girl is brought down by claims that she had co-pilot | Daily Mail Online The Peter Benn statement appears to put a different spin on the Masters Medal award with no reference to the Chris Ford letter. In a few words...damage limitation by HCAP. Dear Dave. We spoke last week, and I promised you a short written statement. The statement is as below: "The Honourable Company of Air Pilots has awarded Tracey Curtis Taylor The Master’s Medal for organising an aviation expedition from the UK to Australia, retracing the route flown by Amy Johnson as a tribute to her, which formed part of a wider promotional endeavour to encourage females into aviation. There was one specific, principal aim in mind: to promote aviation to many thousands of youngsters, especially women, across the globe for whom flying is a distant, even unknown or seemingly unachievable activity. This is particularly relevant when an estimated 400,000 new commercial pilots are needed worldwide in the next twenty years to meet anticipated growth. The Master’s award recognises Tracey Curtis-Taylor’s work in raising awareness of science and technology in general, and aviation in particular, amongst young women across the world”. So is Tracey getting the Chris Ford Masters Medal or the Peter Benn Masters medal? The award text is not the same. Did Chris Ford make a mistake or was Tracey always going to get the Master medal? There are many rumours flying around that Tracey had to get an award whatever the outcome. Whatever it puts Chris Peakes award in the shadows as no one can question where he has been and what he has done. Or is she getting the 'Oh my god what do we do now to sort this mess out' medal. |
Don't you just love the internet:ok:
It is impossible to hide the truth. GoPro as well. Excellent picture Above The Clouds. Many thanks. |
In UK, US and AUS, that I know of, you can effectively "restore" something around the maker's plate and have it certified as the original aircraft. ... the open cockpit vintage biplane was containerised and shipped to Hungary where a remarkably efficient and speedy rebuild was completed.In less than six weeks the Spirit of Artifice is back in the air (8/7/16) and turns up at Farnborough on the 12/7/2016. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...scmyujvzr.jpeg |
This may shock some of you but a number of contacts suggest Ewald and Tracey
may be an item. ;-) |
It's a hard life out there flying in Africa:ok:
Who would have thought the natives have flying clubs? “It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand. ~ Brian Stimpson, Clockwise ”"" Our intrepid aviator only had 1400 ppl hours in her log book when she sliced the Robbo helicopter at Goodwood in 2015. Shortly after her return Tracey migrated to New Zealand and began flying in earnest. She gained her private pilot’s licence, commercial licence and an instructor rating and, unusual for a woman, was trained by military pilots to fly World War II aeroplanes with the New Zealand Warbird Association. Where does the Taylor in Curtis Taylor come from? Steve Taylor was the man who married her and got her flying. They do not come much better than this. https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/406/325406.jpg For multiple New Zealand aerobatic champion Steve Taylor it will be a "privilege" to pilot an aerial Ferrari at the Warbirds over Wanaka airshow this weekend. The car salesman will sit behind the controls of one of only eight known airworthy Hurricanes in the world. The Hurricane was the workhorse of the Royal Air Force's Fighter Command during 1940's Battle of Britain. Taylor described the experience of flying one as someone saying "here are the keys to my Enzo Ferrari, take it for a spin down the southern motorway". "This is probably worth more than an Enzo," Taylor, of Auckland, said of the Hawker Hurricane P3351. A Warbirds regular, who has been flying since he was 15, Taylor said there was an overwhelming sense of history or of being in a movie while flying a World War 2 fighter such as a Spitfire, Hurricane or Mustang. "It's such a great privilege. Most people never ever get the chance and I don't even have to write a cheque for $4 million to buy one," he said. Taylor's borrowed aircraft was rebuilt over six years by Air New Zealand Engineering Services and Britain's Hawker Restorations. It is now part of the Alpine Fighter Collection in Wanaka. "There's a sense of responsibility when you fly these, especially because someone else owns it," Taylor said. "You treat it well -- you don't thrash it. |
British woman on classic flight lands in Nairobi ? Kenyan Aviation
Above The Clouds, Great link. I wonder if the driver of the yellow "Follow Me" truck was aware he was risking life and limb. |
Originally Posted by Above The Clouds
(Post 9440130)
Interesting navigation equipment fit in this basic open cockpit biplane.
British woman on classic flight lands in Nairobi ? Kenyan Aviation Garmin 430 and an iPad. http://www.kenyanaviation.com/wp-con...1/DSC00251.jpg |
Originally Posted by Jay Sata
(Post 9440140)
This may shock some of you but a number of contacts suggest Ewald and Tracey
may be an item. ;-) I'm disappointed in you, JS. How could you repeat such scurrilous gossip on here? What do you think this is .. a Rumour Network? Anyway, that's more worthy of that crowd down the corridor .. the Most Venerated Order of Vengeful Vigilantes. They're willing to believe anything that'll further their cause, you know. We, here, in the Ignoble Company of Witch-Hunters, are bound by our charter of Inconvenient Truths, Inevitable Justice and ... Just another one while we're being flippant... I couldn't help but notice in that first pic posted by Above The Clouds in #885 that the operator of that unfortunate Robbie (RIP) at Goodwood goes by the name "Phoenix". Now, in that 'attempted take-off' from Winslow, where was she headed? .. That's right, Phoenix. I must go consult my soothsayer. . |
British woman on classic flight lands in Nairobi ? Kenyan Aviation Above The Clouds, Great link. I wonder if the driver of the yellow "Follow Me" truck was aware he was risking life and limb. Sam.. what could be more important than getting my luggage to the hotel This man is a real aviator. New Zealand's best display pilots | Wings Over New Zealand Steve Taylor and Richard Hood are also on my list of top display pilots initailly flying Pitts Specials etc and more recently Giles 202. Steve also flew with the roaring 40s for a while. Kieth Trillo is also an ex Pitts pilot who used to display the Fokker triplane relica for a while. as display Pilots the the Harding Family (Richmond, Bruce and Don?) from Wanganui aero Work need recognition for devising such an unusual and spectaculr display with the WAW Bird Cresco team.' |
For the benefit of anyone who has not seen or heard of the Roaring 40s, have a look at this:
Turn the volume up to 11. ;) |
Originally Posted by Jay Sata
(Post 9439888)
However the average over the six week trip was less than two hours a day.
No exactly punishing flying or hardship. Apparently the record for driving a car from Cape Town to London is about 10 days (two drivers, not solo). That sounds like much more of a challenge than taking four times as long in a device which can cruise faster, over shorter straighter distances, with less traffic and environment risk. |
That sounds like much more of a challenge than taking four times as long in a device which can cruise faster, over shorter straighter distances, with less traffic and environment risk. |
"If tha' hast nowt to say, say nowt" (Yorkshire Folk Saying).
14th Jul 2016, 21:32
Stanwell (#883), ...Ah, thank you, Detective-Superintendent Danny (Forensic Branch). Hopefully a techie with Hamilton-Standard knowledge will notice this and give us a steer.... D. 14th Jul 2016, 22:21 Above The Clouds (#885), ...Quote: Danny42C My earlier #877 refers. Had a look at second pic (#864) of the prang. Zoomed in as far as possible, and got out trusty magnifying glass (my eyesight is not what it once was !) Cylinder seems to have been broken off. (piston visible) But bob on this side appears to be "in", and the inner third of both the prop blades seem to be in "coarse" position. There will be engineer hydraulic prop experts reading this. Comment ?... ...Maybe compare the bob with this picture... Amen to my last words (above) to Stanwell ! In 'way over my head' now. (Hoists white flag and quits the field, baffled) . :confused: Danny. |
deefer dog asked....
Thanks for finding it Jay, but for the record do you know when it was taken, and where? Was it definitely after the flight? (I'm of course referring to that backdrop with the claim of her being alone in the aircraft, the one she cannot remove from cyberspace). |
It goes on...........................
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheAirLeague Another award! This time from The Air League. SND |
You may joke about that Katamarino but you have hit the nail on the head.
The UK Royal Family are not normally available to do selfies with members of the public. However Prince Michael has been very keen to support Tracey Curtis Taylor. Not one but many pictures together. My information is that the Masters Medal was a done deal before she left the UK. Prince Michael is a major supporter of TCT and takes an interest in the HCAP. Indeed Ewald and Tracey have dined with him and his wife. The HCAP knew what she was up to but google Robert Marshall,Tracey Curtis Taylor,Bee House,Marshalls aerospace and Boeing to get the full story. The press has been manipulated to paint her in a hero role. There are many UK aviation journalists writing for magazines but not one has been brave enough to file a post here on pprune. The two major GA magazines are more concerned about future advertising than the truth. The one magazine with a forum locked any discusion on this topic weeks ago. So look at these pictures and ask yourself why has Prince Michael allowed himself to be used by TCT? http://i.daily mail.co.uk/i/pix/2015...3763677772.jpg http://www.birdinabiplane.com/galler..._with_pm_2.jpg http://www.birdinabiplane.com/galler...wo_princes.jpghttp://www.birdinabiplane.com/galler...es1/image2.jpg http://c8.alamy.com/comp/F38DTR/farn...lor-F38DTR.jpghttp://www.wokingnewsandmail.co.uk/w...8/BH5486-1.jpg http://www.birdinabiplane.com/galler...hn_goodman.jpg for more info google Prince Michael and Princess Pushy. |
In reply to post 886....The Light Aviation Association gave her the Bill Woodham Navigation Award on the basis she flew across Africa solo using a basic panel. This picture makes the award a joke but the chief exec Steve Slater continues his silence.
Not surprising as he is also a member of the Honourable Company of Air Pilots and has a brief to address PR. As does Peter Benn who issued the second rewritten Masters Medal award. We have never heard from Chris Ford who wrote the original letter. How hard was it to fly Africa in nice weather with this panel? http://www.kenyanaviation.com/wp-con...1/DSC00251.jpg |
However Prince Michael has been very keen to support Tracey Curtis Taylor.
Birds of a feather perhaps, observing that Prince Michael wears wings in both naval and army uniforms, despite having completed no formal flying training that I have seen recorded.:hmm: Jack |
Originally Posted by "Jay Sata)
There are many UK aviation journalists writing for magazines but not one has been brave enough to file a post here on PPRuNe.
The two major GA magazines are more concerned about future advertising than the truth. The one magazine with a forum locked any discussion on this topic weeks ago. - I've posted here several times - The last TCT thread that I can find remains open …of course we are interested in the truth, I don't know why you are so happy to lie about me though? Ian |
Jay,
I rarely post on here, but there is a certain irony in your, at best, distortion of the truth, and, at worst, outright lies about the position taken by Ian Seager of Flyer magazine. Personally, I think you have a point about TCT although I don't truthfully understand why it is such a total obsession with you. However, when you keep defaming someone who many of us believe to be an honourable man you simply put yourself in the same box as TCT - a slightly sad self promoter who is far too fond of the sound of your own voice. At least TCT got some interesting flying out of her misrepresentations. Paul. |
I was merely pointing out that there has been little or no engagment on here from the UK GA press and writers and was not pointing a finger at any one person.
I certainly did not mention Ian. However he closed the first TCT strand down on the other side following Sam Rutherford and Jetblu's posts and indeed put me on pre moderated posting. It is thanks to the Daily Mail that the general public know the truth. The pictures of the technology in the cockpit few posts ago underlines the LAA award is a disgrace. However she continues to receive so called awards. Accusing me of obsession with exposing TCT's charade is just shooting the messenger. If you don't want to read this strand go elsewhere. The thread is now heading for 120,000 page views and over 900 posts. Pprune is a global forum and there is plenty of interest in this topic. |
However he closed the topic down on the other side and indeed put me on pre moderated posting. The latest thread is alive and well and remains open. You are correct that you are on moderation. Ian |
Originally Posted by airpolice
(Post 9437298)
ACCIDENT
Aircraft Type and Registration: Boeing B75N1 Stearman, N56200 No & Type of Engines: 1 Lycoming R680 piston engine Year of Manufacture: 1943 Date & Time (UTC): 17 August 2015 at 1115 hrs [...] Information Source: Aircraft Accident Report Form submitted by the pilot The aircraft was parked outside a hangar, in an area where construction works were ongoing and temporary buildings had been erected in preparation for an event. The pilot boarded the aircraft and started the engine, before beginning to taxi. After moving off the aircraft turned through 90° to go between buildings towards the runway. The width of the area between the buildings was insufficient to allow the turns necessary for the pilot of a Stearman to see the area ahead. The pilot saw one helicopter parked ahead on the left, and another on the right, but could not see directly forward, and the propeller and nose of ... http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...9847502779.jpg (picture in Daily Mail) I've never been someone for those spot-the-ball competitions, but I wonder about some larger objects missing from this picture. |
aox,
Perhaps their owners had hurriedly removed them (wouldn't you) ? |
I understand helo operators certainly do these days - any time word gets out that she's around. :uhoh:
I also like a small detail in the 'report submitted by the pilot' - she started the engine before beginning to taxy. ... Hmmm. . |
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