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To be fair some of us often paste quick replies 'on the hoof' while travelling or working.
Newspapers use sub editors to correct simple errors not spotted by the writers. Now if we really want to discuss language then the term 'global outreach' merits further discussion. When I board a 12 hour red eye flight am I taking taking part in 'global outreach' ? A middle aged British woman, dressed up to look like a fashion editors idea of a biplane pilot complete with entourage in a separate aircraft ,is light years away from the real world. http://www.stearman.at/pictures/Sout...ood%20(1c).JPG Best summed up by her saying "Sam..what could possibly be more important than getting my luggage to the hotel"? Her image goes further with the double barrelled name Curtis-Taylor. I was exchanging emails with her ex husband a few days ago. He says he wants his surname Taylor back as they divorced a long time ago.:ok: |
I've gradually read this thread all the way through, in 3 or 4 visits.
It amuses me to think of the wording of that award citation, something like by all accounts, overcoming unforeseen difficulties ... What can be unforeseen difficulties nowadays? Surely nothing to do with weather? Inadvertent arrival in a country just as war breaks out? Infestation of the airframe by insect swarms? Nope, I just thought of those. In some article TCT admits she can be a bit sharp with fools on the ground. And somewhere above we have an example, who will get her bags to the hotel. Oh dear. Even the possibility of arriving at Farnborough just in time is overblown in how intrepid it is. Four days? Some of us could drive a car there and back in just over two days. Come to think of it, put the plane on or in a trailer and let someone tow it. |
Grande Dame Finale:ok:
The Flight of the Pheonix springs to mind. She plans to plod around the after dinner circuit for years peddling Walter Mitty tales. The HCAP does not emerge from this well despite the excellent defence from Flying Lawyer. The letter below quite clearly grants her the Masters Medal on the basis she undertook the UK to Sydney flight in the Spirit of Artifice alone. This was written in January before this thread started to unravel the real story. Her publicity stunt was based on a woman pilot flying long distance alone or solo in a restored biplane. (given the new definition of sole pilot I am no longer sure where that fits?) Her tag was commerating Amy Johnson and Lady Mary Heath who both flew historic solo flights. Hence the Bird in a Biplane website. Tracey Curtis Taylor - Aviatrix, Adventurer, Inspirational Speaker The result was massive publicity with female solo pilot in headlines and stories. However once the truth started to emerge damage limitation clicked in not least with HCAP. Her Masters Medal is no longer being awarded for the reasons in this letter. It is now for "promoting women in aviation" which is a paradox as she had an airline pilot with thousands of hours in the front seat. He also is the registered owner of "her" aircraft. As my old helicopter flying friend Duncan always reminds...."I rest my case":ok: If you are concerned about the address being visible in the letter above it is the registered office of Bird in Biplane Ltd. UK registered company information is available online hence https://www.endole.co.uk/company/077...iplane-limited |
I do not suppose I am alone in thanking all concerned for the best running comedy for quite a long time ! The Thread is always the second "must see" (after CapCom), when I log on in the morning.
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We might think it is a comedy Danny but Boeing aircraft have fallen for her hype.
She even conned the BBC TV Newsround programme which is aimed at children. A British adventurer has completed an epic 14,600-nautical mile flight from the UK to Australia in a 73-year-old plane. Tracey Curtis-Taylor set off in her 1942 Boeing Stearman aircraft called 'Spirit of Artemis' from Farnborough, England, in October. She was retracing the route of Amy Johnson, who in 1930 became the first woman to fly solo from Britain to Australia, flying over 23 countries and making some 50 refuelling stops. While the well paid journalists in the BBC HQ in London were writing the next cut and past story from the internet they were missing the cuckoo in the nest. Little kids everywhere must have been asking 'who is that man in the front seat of the lady's epic solo flight mummy and why is he hiding? ' :D http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/c...30831214-1.jpg |
The British left wing Guardian national newspaper also fell for the bait without checking out the real story.
A British aviator has touched down in Sydney, completing her 21,000km solo flight from England in a vintage open cockpit biplane. “I need a drink. And I need a hairdresser,” Tracey Curtis-Taylor said as she climbed out of her 1942 Boeing Stearman, Spirit of Artemis, to cheers and applause at Sydney airport on Saturday. The 53-year-old pilot has flown across 23 countries, making 50 refuelling stops, since she set off from Farnborough in Hampshire, southern England, in October. Her mission was to emulate the pioneering British aviator Amy Johnson, who became the first woman to fly solo from Britain to Australia in 1930. Curtis-Taylor’s route took her across Europe and the Mediterranean to Jordan, over the Arabian desert, across the Gulf of Oman to Pakistan, India and across Asia. Encountering treacherous weather and navigating the politics of the airways were the toughest parts of the trip, she said. https://www.theguardian.com/australi...intage-biplane She said of one leg near Bucharest: “Flying in heavy rain, low cloud on the deck … that was a death trap that killed a lot of the airline pilots. So I turned around and went back.” |
Everyone can be forgiven by getting sucked-in to her deceit. That's the way she portrayed it. One journalist might get it slightly mixed up. The second may get it slightly wrong, but over 15 from all parts of the world? I think not.
She, and her PR team were clearly sailing very close to the wind at that juncture. The second that she realised that she was rumbled, it was in my submission that the entire matter quite dramatically moved to a different area when the deceit was known and the scurrying around was visual to all by burying the deceit. FL disagrees with me, but I would expect him to anyway, but I still genuinely believe the 'specimen' has much merit. From post # 658 "The submission could quite easily be between Dec 13 - to on or about 3rd July, dishonestly and intending to make a gain for herself or another, or expose another to risk of loss by way of false representation, which she knew might not be true and/or misleading, namely that she flew 'solo' and 'alone' in breach of section 1/2 of the Fraud Act 2006. She was even interviewed by Pilot Magazine by way of Question and Answer in October 2015. It was very clear even then that they also genuinely believed, like HCAP, that the flight was solo mirroring Amy Johnson. Extract, If you hadn’t been flying solo, who would have been your ideal co-pilot? Although this was primarily a solo flight, certainly at the outset, I often took members of the crew and sponsors with me in the Stearman for reasons of expediency or indeed just so that they could share the experience. I did one flight with Bill Sykes, a retired air force pilot and local historian, who was based in Bulawayo and we tried to find the site where Lady Heath crash landed in 1928. Link https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...Cnk-vp_ErV00vw |
In the Pilot interview mentioned by you Jetblu she said she wants to fly with Prince Harry.
Not such a joke when you see how far she has come on so little real flying. Last August she had 1,430 hours (of which at least 350 were on type) Last 90 days - 16 hours Last 28 days - 9 hours when she destroyed an R44 helicopter at Goodwood. https://assets.publishing.service.go...6200_12-15.pdf Yes the famous wrecked R44 with Boeings name emblazoned. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...9847322827.jpg The UK Royal Family have fallen for her tales of adventure in the sky. Here she is with HRH Queen Elizabeths grand daughter Zara Philips http://www.loveair.co.uk/blog/wp-con.../stearrman.jpg TCT with with Prince Michael of Kent who is the Queens first cousin. Also present at the HCAP Cobham Lecture. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3763677772.jpg |
Looking at those pictures reminds me and takes me back to the days of John DeLorean was seen posing with the royals. He was also allegedly doing everyone a favour at that time by creating employment.
Soon after, the SFO became involved and it was egg on face time. |
Was Zara Phillips misled in to appearing alongside TCT.
She is quoted in this article. PHILLIPS CELEBRATES A PIONEERING WOMAN’S JOURNEY ACROSS AFRICA Tracey Curtis-Taylor to fly Spirit of Artemis solo from South Africa to UK in November 2013 In November 2013 pilot Tracey Curtis-Taylor will embark on a grueling solo journey to fly Spirit of Artemis, her open-cockpit biplane, from Cape Town in South Africa to Goodwood in Sussex. And today at the Goodwood Revival Festival she was joined by Olympic Equestrienne Zara Phillips who gave her personal support to the trailblazing Aviatrix. Her aim is to celebrate the 85th anniversary of the achievement of a remarkable pioneer from the Golden Age of British aviation in the 1920’s. In 1928, Mary Heath – the first woman to hold a commercial flying license in Britain – made front page news around the world as the first pilot, male or female, to fly a small, open-cockpit biplane from Cape Town to London. Zara Phillips, who was on hand to provide a personal send-off to Tracey, commented “I am proud to support pioneering women and will be following Spirit of Artemis closely as Tracey Curtis-Taylor takes on Africa. Lady Mary Heath was an inspirational person both in terms of aviation and in developing women’s involvement in the Olympics, for which I am personally very grateful. It’s fantastic that Tracey is celebrating this wonderful achievement and taking on such a huge challenge at the same time in the classic spirit of British adventure that has defined our history.” Flying Spirit of Artemis, an open cockpit plane exposed to the elements, is not for the faint-hearted, and the flight represents a formidable physical and logistical challenge. In all Curtis-Taylor will cover some 7,000 miles in some 32 legs over six weeks in a plane designed in the 1930’s, with a top speed of 85 mph, an operating ceiling of 10,000 feet and a range of only 400 miles. But this sort of extreme flying is what Curtis-Taylor has been doing all her life. Tracey will leave for South Africa on Sunday September 15th from the Goodwood Revival Festival. Her plane will be shipped to Cape Town and reassembled at ExecuJet Africa's facility, and on 1st November her flight will begin. Pilot Tracey Curtis-Taylor said: “My Cape Town to Goodwood flight is a personal tribute to all of the pioneering aviators who have been such a huge inspiration to me since I had my first flight as a sixteen year old. I am deeply excited – and terrified! – at the prospect of flying across Africa in Spirit of Artemis and retracing Lady Heath’s epic flight. This journey is the realization of something beyond a dream. It is a celebration of flight itself as the ultimate idea of adventure, romance and freedom.” Tracey's route will follow Mary Heath's. It will take her from South Africa to Zimbabwe, Zambia and Tanzania, then on through Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan to Egypt and along the coast through Libya and Tunisia before she turns for Sicily and home. Lord March, owner of Goodwood, said: “We're delighted that Tracey has chosen Goodwood as the destination for her flight. In addition to being a renowned racing driver, my grandfather, Freddie March, was also an aero engineer and pilot, who built his own plane and served with the RAF in the Second World War. We celebrate that aeronautical history each year at the Goodwood Revival so it seems particularly appropriate that Tracey and her Boeing are here today and that Goodwood will be her ultimate destination after setting off from Cape Town.” John Dodd of Artemis Investment Management said: “Artemis Investment Management LLP is proud to be supporting Tracey Curtis-Taylor and her epic flight from Cape Town to Goodwood. Echoing the historic flight of Lady Mary Heath in 1928, it takes tenacity, dedication, resilience and a will of iron to fly such a route in such an iconic aircraft. We look forward to following Spirit of Artemis closely as Tracey crosses Africa alone in the spirit of great British adventure and look forward to welcoming her back to Goodwood.” Ettore Poggi, Managing Director of ExecuJet Africa, said: “ExecuJet Africa is delighted to be helping Tracey on her momentous journey. We look forward to assisting Tracey during her time in South Africa. We are will assist with the reassembly of Spirit of Artemis in our Cape Town facility and we will also be offering full support for the onward journey at our Lanseria FBO.” Tracey's preparations can be followed via the website, www.capetowntogoodwood.com and on the Facebook page at www.facebook.com/capetowntogoodwood Tracey's entire journey will be the subject of a documentary, made by Nylon Films, to be screened in early 2014. More than just a story about a pioneering, but forgotten aviator, it's a story about achieving your dreams and being unwilling to live life on other peoples' terms. It's about strength and vulnerability and having the guts and determination to refuse to be pigeonholed. This paragraph intrigues me. Flying Spirit of Artemis, an open cockpit plane exposed to the elements, is not for the faint-hearted, and the flight represents a formidable physical and logistical challenge. In all Curtis-Taylor will cover some 7,000 miles in some 32 legs over six weeks in a plane designed in the 1930’s, with a top speed of 85 mph, an operating ceiling of 10,000 feet and a range of only 400 miles. But this sort of extreme flying is what Curtis-Taylor has been doing all her life. |
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...9847322827.jpg
D'you suppose that the powers that be, at pprune HQ would complain if we all inserted this image in every post about TCT? I just think it might help people focus on who we are talking about. |
You know, there are some PPRuNers on the Rotorheads forum who'd think that's a lovely photograph.
They would consider that an illustration of a positive contribution to air-safety - one less Robinson around. Perhaps some Association, Honourable Company or Society might have a spare trophy lying around they could present to TCT for that "notable accomplishment". I'd venture to say that it would be the only one she's genuinely earned. . |
"And, according to her website, an "Inspirational Speaker" - a desirable characteristic in a Prime Minister."
Well, the one I had in mind with resembling characteristics of TCT is now facing Contempt of Parliament, and rightly so. Stanwell I just don't know how your brain works, but all the same, you're bl**dy ingenious. :ok: *That* award should be latex and in the shape of the Stearman stick. She should then be sent away to .........off [buzz] for a stupendous alone solo with her award. Why didn't I think of that. :D |
Jay Sata (#775).
Sorry, Jay, but it just gets better and better ! Danny. |
You're a very naughty boy, Jetblu.
You've got me thinking, though. Perhaps we, in this Ignoble Company of Witch-Hunters, should form our own Trophies and Awards Committee. Suggestions as to what appropriate commendations and accolades we might shower upon our Godess of the Gullible would be welcomed. |
Jetblu
I don't believe for one minute that you wrote that piece. I know that you would have said so if you did. I didn't. If I had I would have said so. As airpolice has pointed out, the article was written by Paul Smiddy, the editor of our bimonthly journal. |
Guys,
all you need to do is form a committee, and award Ewald an award for his solo accomplishments with TCT in the other cock-pit (sic). You need to write on official letter head to him asking him to accept the award. You then need to send a copy of that letter to the newspapers and HCAP (sic) etc. You also need to put (sic) every time you write HCAP from now on ;-) Maybe you should make a similiar award to the pilot of the chase plane, who was probably "sole operator of the controls" Btw, what do you actually want from this now ? TCT has admitted she lied, Wikipedia has been updated, her website has been updated. If HCAP (sic) adjusted the wording on their award (this is surely what they will do, just change it to an award for being a female pilot or something), will that be an end to the matter ? What is the point / aim now? |
Originally Posted by Jay Sata
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This paragraph intrigues me.
Flying Spirit of Artemis, an open cockpit plane exposed to the elements, is not for the faint-hearted, and the flight represents a formidable physical and logistical challenge. In all Curtis-Taylor will cover some 7,000 miles in some 32 legs over six weeks in a plane designed in the 1930’s, with a top speed of 85 mph, an operating ceiling of 10,000 feet and a range of only 400 miles. But this sort of extreme flying is what Curtis-Taylor has been doing all her life. Basic arithmetic says that averages about 2 hours a day, leaving plenty of time to hang around waiting to avoid the worst weather, or call in mediators to help settle urgent personal luggage carrying disputes so they don't obstruct unglamorous details like periodic aircraft checks and an oil change or two. To follow your licence track though, let's remember for a moment that a woman was captain of the first scheduled flight to arrive at Heathrow Terminal 5, surely a more practical albeit perhaps prosaic illustration to other aspiring women that there are careers in aviation. |
No. The paragraph is just amusing in the grand scale of her rhetoric.
"But this sort of extreme flying is what Curtis-Taylor has been doing all her life." It is this sentence which IS intriguing, and, if, she was here, I'm sure that we would be amused again when she was asked to expand upon that. |
You got me chuckling there, kghjfg.
With reference to TCT's Website and Wiki Page, I would point out, though, that there's a subtle difference in meaning between the words 'update' and 'amend'. Perhaps our Tracey's amateur professional billsh1tter and the mysterious 'MurielMary' (assuming they're not the same person) could have a closer look at their Oxfords and Roget's. p.s. The HCAP's editor of 'Air Pilot' needs to polish his adjectival use, research and technical accuracy, as well. |
Anyway peoples, the case of deceit has been adequately presented and I don't see anything else that I can positively add unless any more comes to light.
I think we've all have a good laugh, and I genuinely believe that TCT has too, once she is at home and behind closed doors. I bet she takes that Masters Medal, conceals a straight face and under her breath says, "mugs mugs mugs" |
Ok,
so, the pages have been amended. (I presume that's your point?) If HCAP (sic) amend their award so that it's no longer inappropriate. (Have they done that yet?) Then what further are you looking for ? To me it looks like those that wanted to expose the truth, have. It's been published in a national newspaper, TCT has admitted she lied. Seriously, what more do you want ? Because without a further clear aim, it does begin to look like a weird personal vendetta. I didn't like the dishonesty, that's been dealt with. So what if she is now a "celebrity" rather than an achiever. Plenty make a living from that. If HCAP (sic) find that impressive, that's up to them. If none of their members have done anything more impressive, worthy of the award, why does that bother you. It reflects on them, not you. |
kghjfg,
My point on the first one is that "updated" (as opposed to 'amended') has become a current, convenient buzz-word used by certain media - an alternative to admitting that they got things terribly wrong in the first place. The whole TCT machine's momentum had been built upon the ongoing and grossly deceitful "Solo Aviatrix" message. Then, when the scam had been rumbled, it was simply a matter of "updating" certain 'barely relevant details'. The big message was out there, firmly fixed in the gullible public's mind... "Tracey Curtis-Taylor - Solo Aviatrix" There we go, "Fait accompli", you see. Beauty. Let's go have a drink. I'm really not sure, at the moment, exactly what the Honourable(sic) Company's 'plan B' is. The last I'd heard was that they'd just moved the goalposts to award her a Master's Medal for "Promoting Women in Aviation" instead, or somesuch. Well done, chaps ... What a role model you picked. Cunning artifice, blatant deceit, sucking up to dribbling old fools and a 24/7 PR machine is the way to do it, girls. What a message! "TCT has admitted she lied". Well not that I'd seen or heard anywhere .. Perhaps you know more than me. The best that I'd noticed were certain relatively recent deletions from and amendments (sorry, 'updates') to the spiel. That, together with the 'caveat' that she'd plastered over the front page of her website suggesting that there must have been some 'misunderstanding' over her many-times published and on-the-record "Solo" claims. The last paragraph of that is enough to make any right-thinking person sick. In that, she claims that certain nasty people are now claiming that she should have undertaken the venture solo. Oh, give us a break, Tracey, will you, please? I'll answer the rest of your questions a bit later, if that's OK - otherwise this post is likely to fall victim to the 'PPRuNe Gremlin'. |
The edit lock which was imposed by MM on TCT's Wikipedia page has expired. The final paragraph now appears to reflect accurately at least some of the comments made in this thread. Whether it will stay like that is another matter.
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This is an extract from the statement which appears on TCT's webpage:
I am deeply disappointed at the comments coming from a particular source making false assertions that my flight expeditions should have been executed as solo flights. They were not. With the current rush of female politicians to the top spots, I think that Tracy would do extremely well at that game. |
You got it right, pulse1.
In that, she's trying to make out that there's just this one nasty person out there who's been running around telling fibs about her. You'll also note how she's trying to play the 'victim' card. That also works with the gullible. Lies upon lies. Let's see her sit down over a table and answer some questions - with witnesses. Cunning as the proverbial 'outhouse rat', this one - although not quite as bright. p.s. I'd heard it said that .. "When one has reached the bottom of a hole, one should stop digging." . |
Once again, I would refer those interested to the following link which, through the waybackwhen.com website, shows TCT's webpage as it was in Feb 2015 before significant editing took place. First sentence in the fourth para. refers:
Tracey Curtis Taylor Aviator, Adventurer, Inspirational Speaker |
What a pity the illustrious organ (aka Private Eye, the UK’s weekly satirical magazine) has yet to pick up this wonderful story of deceit, self promotion at all costs and the subsequent trail of cover-ups, corrections, deletions and rewrites in their “shurely shome mishtake” column. Tracy nee-Curtis-Taylor would no doubt then be advised to engage Messrs Carter-F**k, the organ’s long term legal sparring partner, to seek redress for allegedly appalling libel that has dealt her reputation as Commercial Pilot, flying instructor and semi professional solo peddler of fairy tales a dastardly blow. Hopefully the Honourable Company of Aerial Plotters would escape the organ’s attention, for despite it’s gullibility in being drawn into the spider’s web, it is an organisation that is highly respected worldwide and does much to promote aviation to the young men and women who will succeed us old f**ts in the years to come.
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The criteria for a wiki page is a worth a look.
Publication in a reliable source is not always good evidence of notability: Wikipedia is not a promotional medium. Self-promotion, autobiography, product placement and most paid material are not valid routes to an encyclopedia article. The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the topic itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, author, inventor, or vendor) have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own that focus upon it—without incentive, promotion, or other influence by people connected to the topic matter. Independent sources are also needed to guarantee a neutral article can be written; see Wikipedia:Autobiography for discussion of neutrality concerns of self-published sources. Even non-promotional self-published sources, like technical manuals that accompany a product, are still not evidence of notability as they are not a measure of the attention a subject has received. 2011, Curtis-Taylor flew in the Flying Legends show at Duxford Aerodrome, England.[7][8] She has also performed as a display pilot at the Shuttleworth Collection in Bedfordshire, England,[9] and in 2015 flew at the Amy Johnson Memorial Air Show at Herne Bay, Kent, England.[10] As far as I know she has only ever done flypasts. Perhaps someone can enlighten me on her Shuttleworth and Duxford displays? :ok: There is also the issue of the CAA rules. Before you can perform at an approved flying display you will need a display authorisation. This requires you to undertake an approval flight for a display evaluator. Renew a display authorisation by filling in and sending us form SRG 1302. To upgrade a display authorisation please use form SRG 1300. For an initial application for a display authorisation please see Flying Displays and Special Events: A guide to safety and administrative arrangements. Check the cost in our Scheme of Charges. Guidance for display pilots Guidance on forms and charges is available in our quick reference guide You now need a behavioural and attitudinal fitness assessment. |
I put together a short factual wikipedia page a few years ago about a martial arts organisation I belong to.
Then somebody with more energy than sense in our organisation decided to edit it to massively big us up, introducing various in-house titles that mean nothing to anybody outside (and not much within) and basically making us sound like a bunch of self aggrandising dickheads. It was removed completely within the week by somebody within the Wikipedia community. Can't say I blamed them - I decided that life was too short to try again! G |
I suspect your personal wiki page would be a lot more interesting than TCT's fiction Genghis.
As an aside I have enjoyed your posts for a long time on pprune especially the very heated one a couple of years ago. I have always wanted to ask why the Genghis name? I assume it must be a play on your surname. No need to answer but just curious. best regards |
Airpolice - Referring to your picture, are you suggesting that a nasty helicopter got in the way of our heroine's biplane? How thoughtless. Was that caused by aerodrome density or did the head of the person who was helping her celebrate Amy Johnson & Lady Heath's achievements obscure her view forward?
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Originally Posted by Jay Sata
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I suspect your personal wiki page would be a lot more interesting than TCT's fiction Genghis.
As an aside I have enjoyed your posts for a long time on pprune especially the very heated one a couple of years ago. I have always wanted to ask why the Genghis name? I assume it must be a play on your surname. No need to answer but just curious. best regards I got rather frustrated one day after yet another day of them trying to get to the bottom of the very fine detail of a problem, whilst I was at the same time trying to identify what really mattered to the engineers I felt that we were there to serve. So, on the spur of the moment I made up a small sign and pinned it to the office wall... Dear Scientists, please remember - Best is the enemy of good enough. Signed, Genghis the Engineer. "Best is the enemy of good enough", I stole from a sign on the desk of the Chief Maintenance Engineer at RAE Farnborough, who I'd reported to in a previous job. It's a useful concept, because it forces you to think about both what "best" and "good enough" mean and why each matters and where. I have since read a few biographies of Temujin, who became Genghis Khan, and discovered what a hellishly interesting chap he was (if one rather lacking in social niceties) which didn't cause me to change my liking for the name at-all. No, not particularly to do with my real name. I have been contacted once on PPrune by an aspiring pilot from Mongolia, who was dissapointed to discover that there wasn't really a second Mongol here, as he hoped I was. Boringly British I'm afraid. G (Yes I am mentioned a few places on Wikipedia, in my real name, by other people. I once added a couple of words to a sentence saying what my profession is (for the record "an aeronautical engineer"), otherwise I've left it to other people's perception and views.) |
JetBlue;
If canopener is indeed who I suspect he is, then he does have some real display pilot experience on a real and rare warbird and has won the odd one or two aerobatic competitions in a pretty serious aerobatic aircraft. Unlike another person with the same last name he doesn't need to embellish the truth, nor put his hand out for an award. |
Jay Sata,
I've been just a fascinated reader of this Thread from the beginning (you couldn't make it up !), and do not know most of the details, but there is one point which so far seems to have escaped notice. I understand that the stated object of the US transcontinental flight was to retrace the route of the old mail pilots from Seattle to Boston. <US 2016 - Tracey Curtis Taylor - Aviatrix, Adventurer, Inspirational ... www.birdinabiplane.com/usa2016/> has a diagram of the route. There is a leg Grand Rapids to Phoenix (Arizona). Can't find air distance, but must be around 250 mi, well in range of a PT-17 (on which I trained with the US Army Air Corps, at Carlstrom Field in Florida). So why go off-route to Winslow (4941 amsl) instead of to Phoenix (1160 amsl), when you're faced with a hot, high and heavy takeoff next day ? Doesn't make sense. They were lucky the fuel didn't go up in the prang. Danny42C. |
As far as I know she has only ever done flypasts. Perhaps someone can enlighten me on her Shuttleworth and Duxford displays? |
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Your suspicions are correct. A thoroughly nice and decent guy as well by all accounts. My flippant jokey remark about an award was just that. Although anyone having had to put up with her type of unscrupulous behaviour deserves an award IMHO. fwjc "despite Ewald's claims on his website, she has never been a Shuttleworth Collection pilot, and has never flown any of the Collection aeroplanes." Hmmm. Are they Ewald's claims? I suspect that is what she has told him. Evidence here is that most who come into contact with her takes what she says verbatim. |
Flying Legends 2011 Participants by type and owner/operator
North American P-51 Mustangs P-51D-20 Mustang 44-63864 – Commanche Fighters P-51D-25 Mustang 44-72917 – Air Fighter Academy P-51D-25 Mustang 44-73149 – Old Flying Machine Company TF-51D-25 Mustang 44-73871 – Max Alpha Aviation P-51D-30 Mustang 44-74391 – Commanche Fighters P-51D-30 Mustang 44-74427 – SNC SDPA TF-51D-25 Mustang 44-84847 – The Fighter Collection Vickers-Supermarine Spitfires Spitfire IA AR213 – Spitfire the One Ltd Spitfire F VB BM597 – Historic Aircraft Collection Spitfire F VB EP120 – The Fighter Collection Spitfire HF VIII MV154 – Max Alpha Aviation Spitfire LF IXC MH434 – The Old Flying Machine Company Spitfire FR XIVE MV293 – The Fighter Collection Spitfire LF XVIE TD248 – Aircraft Restoration Company Spitfire PR XIX PS890 – Spitfire Warbirds Curtiss Hawks Hawk 75 No 82 – The Fighter Collection P-40B 41-13297 – The Fighter Collection P-40F Warhawk 41-19841 – The Fighter Collection P-40N Warhawk 42-105915 – SNC SDPA Vought F4U Corsairs F4U-4 BuNo 96995 – The Flying Bulls F4U-7 BuNo 124541 – Max Alpha Aviation CASA HA-112-M1L Buchóns HA-1112-M1L Buchón C.4K-31 – Richard Lake HA-1112-M1L Buchón C.4K-102 – Aircraft Restoration Company HA-1112-M1L Buchón C.4K-169 – Air Fighter Academy Douglas AD-4 Skyraiders AD-4NA Skyraider BuNo 124143 – AJBS AD-4NA Skyraider BuNo 126933 – Kennet Aviation AD-4N Skyraider BuNo 127002 – Vega Team/Skyraider Avignon Douglas C-47/C-53 C-53D 42-68823 (11750/LN-WND) – Foundation Dakota Norway C-47B 44-77020 (16604/F-AZOX) – Association Normandie Hawker Fury/Sea Furies Fury ISS 37514 – Mistral Warbirds Sea Fury T 20 VX281 – Royal Navy Historic Flight Sea Fury T 20 WG655 – The Fighter Collection Sea Fury FB 11 ‘WH589’ – Spitfire Warbirds Hawker Nimrods Nimrod I S1581 – The Fighter Collection Nimrod II K3661 – Historic Aircraft Collection Fokker Dr I Replicas Dr I G-Fokk – Paul Ford Dr I G-CDXR – John Day Dr I SE-XXZ – Mikael Carlson de Havilland Dragons/Dragon Rapide DH 84 Dragon I G-ECAN – Norman Aeroplane Trust DH 84 Dragon I EI-ABI – Aer Lingus DH 89A Dragon Rapide G-AGJG – de Havilland Support Beech D17 Staggerwing/UC-43 Traveller UC-43 Traveller BuNo 23689 – The Fighter Collection D17 Staggerwing N295BS – Edwin Boschoff Other Participants Hurricane XII RCAF 5711 – Historic Aircraft Collection Ju 52/3mg2e Wk-Nr 5489 – Lufthansa Traditionsflug Swordfish II LS326 – Royal Navy Historic Flight Nieuport 17 replica G-BWMJ – R Gauld-Galliers/M Larcombe Hind ‘K5414’ – The Shuttleworth Trust Demon K8203 – Demon Displays Lancaster B I PA474 – Battle of Britain Memorial Flight Morane D-3801 J-143 – Mobile Air Services B-17G-105 Flying Fortress 44-85784 – B-17 Preservation CASA 1.131E (Bü 131) Jungmann G-BSAJ – Pete Kynsey CASA ES-1 (Bü 133) Jungmeister G-BUTX – John Brander Yak-9UM 0470406 – Paul Boschung F8F-2P Bearcat BuNo 121714 – The Fighter Collection P-47G-10 Thunderbolt 42-25068 (static) – The Fighter Collection P-38L/F-5G Lightning 44-53254 – The Flying Bulls |
TCT's appearance at Duxford in 2011 was not Flying Legends but at the earlier May airshow when I believe she flew her PT-22. A number of other women pilots also flew displays at the show.
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Duxford Spring Air Show Line up 2011
Ryan PT-22 Pair T Curtis-Taylor & S Roberts T |
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