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are you nuts? |
I don't get this if any or all of this has foundation then what the hell are the CAA well glove puppets for EASA doing in the guise of flight safety ? I know if we break wind out of turn the CAA want to know !
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Actually EASA have already dealt with a few legacy issue that the UK CAA failed to do anything about for absolutely years.
Ormond Beach which turned into flyeasa. There were literally hundreds if not thousands of complaints about the place and even evidence that skills test were done in an hour etc etc. The UK CAA did nothing. EASA took over oversight and they were shut down pretty quick. The only way the CAA will have you is if you play by the rules. If you are of the mind to step away from them they really don't seem to do anything about it. |
Brigante Aviation agreement
Brigante Aviation is currently reviewing its operations at Blackpool Airport
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Fly Bpl - Is It The Beginning Of The End???
Mike when you've finished drinking, you might want to edit that post?
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Nice looking aircraft Brigante are developing...but am I reading this wrong?
The T-Tail is also interestingly designed. The double wing produces a lot of lift and deflects the airflow downwards. As a result, when in a deep stall, the horizontal tail section is still in undisturbed air, so avoiding problems some T-Tail aircraft have when in the deep stall. |
Tarn Farm at Rossall, Blackpool, Lancaster perhaps! Yep there it is: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossall |
Mike!
Wake up please! I have not heard so much S--T for a long time! You will not get a return out of flight training let alone a living wage! Just talk to the people that have been involved with the owner of Fly BPL and invested large sums of money over 50K to purchase aircraft or pieces of Sh-T. If his business ideas are supposed to be sound then why the hell does he keep going tits up using other peoples monies to support his and his lovers live styles? Will be interesting to hear what happens to the Heli Centre when the alleged owner gets out of prison! Time to move on! And let the last few flying clubs to make a living at EGNH before the place closes! :ugh: I am still pissing in my pants at your post and comments on holding company's etc etc! Fly BPL and or the owner has not got a pot to piss in! :D |
Oh and it looks as though Tarn Farm only has planning permission for a Microlight Centre , that might perhaps need sorting out prior to it being used for flight training.
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Oh and it looks as though Tarn Farm only has planning permission for a Microlight Centre , that might perhaps need sorting out prior to it being used for flight training. Do pigs come under the weight-limit for Microlights? Iam reminded of a London car-dealer.....Raymond Way was purported to have said, " they say a mug walks over London Bridge,every minute.,so I built my showroom next to it." Mr Duffer...sorry, DUTTON has obviously visited this, and other Fora. He has done his due diligence and has decided that R. M. is a shining beacon of probity, integrity and business acumen. So be it. The Emperor's new clothes are fabulous,just fools can't see them. |
I know it must be a wind-up but I'll humour Mike Dutton anyway:
We are pleased to announce that the aircraft, all the aircraft documentation and the report from the CAA were all completely satisfactory. We were especially pleased by the condition of the aircraft. we were given unprecedented access to the cash flow situation and we were entirely happy to pay over monies to Fly BPL our investment and pilot training will continue in the near future at the sites of Halfpenny Green, Wolverhampton Definition of 'brigante': In modern Welsh the word braint means 'privilege, prestige' and comes from the same root brigantjā. Other cognates from the modern Celtic languages are: Welsh brenin 'king' (< *brigantīnos); Welsh/Cornish/Breton bri 'prestige, reputation, honour, dignity' PS: Brigante Aviation Limited (Company No. 08512464) formed on 1 May 2013 with Mike Dutton and Claire Robinson as directors - based at the Helicentre Blackpool. RM has (it seems) sidestepped direct involvement and I presume Blackpool Airport have no issues with Mr Dutton and Miss Robinson? Whilst Miss Robinson resides in Macclesfield, Mr Dutton is registered in the Helicentre Hangar? Here we go again ... |
Brigante Aviation | Aircraft Design and Manufacture
and RM?!?!?!? Mike, please, wake up and smell the coffee! := |
Quote - '. We were especially pleased by the condition of the aircraft.'
Lol where do you start with that one..... |
Reply to Nearly There - deep stall
Correct, in that there is zero downdraught at zero airspeed. But "deep stall" happens before that point. The deflection is enough when the aircraft is stalling and the tail is in the wake of where the turbulence would be (if the aircraft were to only have the lower wing) to avoid the tail and retain some authority. If the airspeed is zero, then the T Tail will have no effect regardless of the configuration.
Technically our aircraft does not go into deep stall because the angle is so steep and the speed so slow when it happens we don't actually enter the shadow of the wing. However, the correct way to actually describe it in writing is somewhat difficult. Thanks for the enquiry since it is always a pleasure to talk about tangibles. Mike Dutton Brigante Aviation (Trinidad and Tobago) |
Does that business jet aircraft remind anyone of a crowd-sourced design - California based company?
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Fly Bpl - Is It The Beginning Of The End???
Robert, does Mike Dutton know you've set up an account using his name? He'll be mad when he finds out.
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[QUOTE][/we are satisfied that the financial status of the training school is not dependent upon that dispute and in fact, we were given unprecedented access to the cash flow situation and we were entirely happy to pay over monies to Fly BPL. QUOTE]
does this mean you are taking over all the debts ? |
I must say I find it hard to believe that Brigante Aviation and its directors would see FlyBpl as an attractive proposition?
As has been Posted previously, Robert Murgatroyd seems to have also formed an alliance with a gentleman based in Providenciales in the Turks and Caicos Islands. Speaking to an aircraft owner recently, whose aircraft was one of a number impounded in the FlyBpl hangar for 6 months, the matter seems far from over insofar as Mr Murgatroyd's involvement and ongoing dispute with Blackpool Airport is concerned? It seems that Mike Dutton is involved, the only question is: WHY? |
a gentleman based in Providenciales in the Turks and Caicos Islands |
India Four Two
Maybe the reference is to my previous post? Does anyone know the significance of the connection between RM and DMH, 74, director of British North West Airline Limited based at Richmond House, Leeward Highway, Providenciales, Turks and Caicos Islands, British West Indies? Has Mr H exchanged the Flyde coast for the sub-tropical Atlantic coast? Obviously a connection to RM - as he has recently become a director of Helicentre Blackpool Limited. Although British North West Airline Limited is dissolved as far as Companies House is concerned (and had an address at British North West Suite, Blackpool Airport FY4 2QY until March 2009), Mr H describes himself as a senior pilot with said airline under his LinkedIn profile, based in the TCI. He is also listed as being an Airline Transport Pilot living in Ottershaw, Surrey? In view of recent carryings on, the timing of this change in directors at the Helicentre in obviously significant and maybe a prelude to future events? |
Dealmonster!
Dealmonster: Learn to fly as you take in Spectacular Aerial Views with Fly Blackpool, starting from just £55 £55 for half an hour! Comes with a special introductory lesson on 'hedge trimming'. :E That's from tonight's Gazette, page 7. |
Offer no longer available apparently.
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Fly Bpl - Is It The Beginning Of The End???
No way! I wonder why that might be....
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The AAIB June bulletin includes a report on the accident to G-ATRR at Caernafon:
Air Accidents Investigation: Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee, G-ATRR Amongst other things, the investigators found the rear wing spar attachment bolt ( or rather they didn't find it ) and some other interesting remarks include: "A review of the aircraft’s maintenance revealed that the engine had exceeded its overhaul period by 1.7 years and there was no evidence to indicate that the actions required to extend this period by 20% had been carried out. There was also no evidence that a cylinder compression check had been carried out in the 229 hours since the last annual. The worksheets indicated that only a 50-hour check had been carried out when a 150-hour check was due, and investigations by the CAA revealed that this had occurred on two other aircraft owned by the operator. Further concerns about the maintenance of the operator’s aircraft resulted in the CAA suspending the Certificates of Airworthiness of eight of the operator’s aircraft." |
'kin' hell, not good!
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Ive just read the report. How is it possible that an aircraft is flying WITH REAR SPAR BOLTS MISSING? How can that happen?
If I was doing a pre-flight, would I notice any movement while checking the flaps? Would there be any distortion of the wing to fuselage fairings? |
If I was doing a pre-flight, would I notice any movement while checking the flaps? Would there be any distortion of the wing to fuselage fairings? MJ:ok: |
Going back to a previous accident....
Plane shouldn't have been in the air | Local | News - Radio Wave |
The plane which crashed was the first plane I went solo in so it has a special place in my heart 'I am really sorry for all the distress I have caused to the families of the pilots involved and for the loss of life' was a statement either not made by RM or not reported. If there was ever a cause fo action for a charge of corporate manslaughter surely the RM 'events' fit the bill? It is hard to imagine how it would be possible to flaunt the regulations and the law and get away with it all so lightly?! It's a disgrace and a poor example of mal-administration by the UK CAA that they should have enabled RM to retain his flight instructor ratings and examiner authorisations following these accidents. I know of one pilot whose wife banned him from flying at FlyBpl following a series of mishaps and near misses that occurred whilst flying those aircraft. Unfortunately, as with most aspects of life, great trust is placed in those providing a service to the public - a public who expect the justice system and the regulators to discharge a duty of care to ensure that trust is well-placed. |
It really pi$$es me off when people in a position of trust get away with it.
£645 fine for endangering peoples lives?!? So people have to actually die or be injured first for it to be deemed a serious offence, right got it |
Is this guy operating from Wolverhampton now ?
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He was operating from "a farmer's field near Pilling" day before yesterday, according to someone who had a TL with him in a Cherokee 140.
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Corporate Manslaughter????? As far as I can gather, in the two fatal accidents the aircraft were not at fault. Am I missing something?
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Having read the report, it's a blatant disregard of the regulations, and an unsatisfactory way of performing maintenance on aircraft by the owner/operator! If the fine as someone stated is £645 then the CAA are a complete joke!
However, the real cause of the accident was the carb icing, something that all who read the report I hope will take note off, and will read CAA Safety Sense Leaflet 14 - I know I have. Safety Sense Leaflet 14: Piston Engine Icing | Publications | About the CAA Also in the AAIB report it states 'There was evidence to suggest that the passenger had not been restrained by either a lap or shoulder harness at the time of the accident'. Aren't 'Hatches & harnesses' part of the downwind landing checks? Would the passenger have survived if he had been wearing his harness? Obviously the commander of the aircraft will have to live with his decisions and actions on the day of the flight for the rest of his life. As for the owner/operator, I hope the CAA monitor his activities a lot closer to keep the rest of us safe from any further/future mal practice's. For those that read this including the AAIB report, I hope we all take heed of the lessons learned before we next venture up in to the sky. |
Corporate Manslaughter????? The holes in the Swiss Cheese were lining up long before the accident. Corporate responsibility for the state of the aircraft and, maybe, corporate responsibility for the accident? The fact that carb icing may have been the immediate cause of the accident doesn't detract from the fact that the aircraft shouldn't have been on the approach to Caernarfon that day in the first place. |
Can you say that had the pilot been flying a different aircraft the crash would not have happened? NO.
The same goes for Sipan flying into a Swiss mountain. The crashes and the maintenance irregularities are separate entities. Unrelated to each other. I have no connection with RM but I do see red when confronted with flaming torch and pitchfork wielders.:ugh: |
@ FLYINGMAC A good, objective post, sir.:ok:
However, there is still the issue of CAA Airworthiness compliance, with the horrendous costs entailed, V sub-standard airworthiness and maintenance that wouldn't even meet LAA (or BMAA) standards. The fact remains that this unscrupulous operation was defrauding anyone who paid to use their aircraft. Where is the real oversight from the CAA? Hopefully , they'll re-prioritise and pay closer attention to monitoring major transgressors, rather than worrying about wether a licence is still valid because it's been cut into pages? Wood and trees come to mind. |
Can you say that had the pilot been flying a different aircraft the crash would not have happened? NO. Would the carb ice have formed in EXACTLY the same way? Impossible to say. Simple fact is THAT aircraft should not have been there! |
Wrong. It is impossible to prove what would have happened in another aircraft. |
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