The fact that this thread is still live and has not been locked or deleted says to me that changes have happened or at the very least, someone is not as confident in their position as they were. I thought that when the flyer thread took off this would all get sorted quite fast but that has not happened. You would have thought that 4 pages of critical comment, hosted beyond PPrune control and indicating that many posters are moving forums would have encouraged a solution.

Rod1

At the risk of being extremely cynical....
 

The business model of the forum is to sell advertising as real estate on the site and click throughs. Real estate is valued by the number of people who view the page. This issue has created At least 3 topics and heading for a hundred posts, god knows how many hundreds of page views. This is all beneficial to the site owners.

Maybe the best way of getting GTE reinstated is to just stop talking about it and going elsewhere until we hear ( over there) that he is reinstated with all his previous posts and a public appology!

No traffic here means no revenue.

Caber :(

Vino - they did issue a statement on one of the closed threads, essentially stating the matter was under further investigation and giving a little background to their reasons. That may, or may not, suggest once they have completed their investigation more will follow.

It seems to me "odd" that without knowing any of the facts we are so critical. It seems to me entirely reasonable that the owners should have time to properly investigate whatever it is that has taken place. I would hope the owners of the forum will publish a statement and then comment might well be warranted. It just like some of the discussions about accidents - of course we can speculate all we wish, but it is just that, "speculation" until or unless the facts are known, and as interesting and sometimes as useful as that might be, reality is sometimes stranger than even the best fiction. ;)

I don't personally know Genghis but FWIW I have always found his posts well informed and fascinating. I know nothing of what might have given rise to the "ban" other than the conjecture here and his "statement" on Flyer.

From Flyer

by Genghis the Engineer » Tue Sep 18, 2012 14:11
For people's information, it's obviously not sorted out over on PPrune yet, but I am still talking to Internet Brands.

I'm unclear what the reasons for the slowness in moving forwards are, but equally we don't appear to be going backwards either.

G

Rod1

Soaring650's crystal ball appears to be in full working order. :rolleyes:

No offence intended here: is this all not a little bit ridiculous? Other than the breach of privacy, surely said user could create another username and continue as per... or pack it in altogether! After all, the weeds do need attending to.
There is life beyond this abundance of yellow.........

This thread was started about the breach of privacy, others have engaged in thread drift.

Let's focus back, is it acceptable for a poster to have his name revealed by a mod, when the mod wrote in the same piece about the importance of confidentiality?

I think not and I think GTE deserves an apology.

That is why this thread was started.

I don't mind the thread drift, so long as we do not lose the original point.

Seems silly to have multiple threads.

For me this is about all of us forum members and mediators sticking to prunes code of conduct and not using that code of conduct as a weapon while mediators ignore the code of conduct because it suits their own agenda to do so!
The code of conduct should be there for all mediators and forum members to respect and adhere too.
Mediators should be mediators ie unbiased!
There is far to much thread locking with excuses of things we do not know about which cannot be discussed!
I am also sceptical with politicians too ;)
I do not know the facts but there has to be confidence in what we are told and maybe that confidence is on the wane

Pace

Soaringhigh650 deleted his own post, before any moderation was required.

SSL

...and....?

Was there perhaps something else you wished to comment on?

I am still coming to terms with a moderator with 2 posts to their name. Where is the experience of the forum that should be expected from a Mod.

Don't expect any response. The sock puppet account is related to a bad case of LMF...

What did he say to get banned? You can always post in on the Flyer thread...

Nice one moderators. You've banned one of the few contributors who's posts were really worth reading and "outed" his real name in the process. it's not Gengis who should be sitting on the naughty step.

Not that I suppose it matters, but I think I'll be bowing out from pprune. Call it evolution, but I'm not sure I want to be part of this place any more.

Professional? :bored:

Cows getting bigger

+1

This thread is doing wonders for PPrune revenue hits. No publicity is bad publicity........

About time!

So they removed the offending post after leaving it for days. I presume that they finally noticed it as a result of this thread. But having read this thread, they didn't see the need to apologise, nor to sort out the situation nor to make any public comment whatsoever.

That's very dissappointing.

DublinPilot

Sorting the situation as you put it is not a matter of reinstating G as a forum contributor and not a moderator which I am sure will happen! but dealing with the "problems" G is the straw that broke the Camels back.
The problems will remain and it will be back to business as usual.

Pace

To be honest, with 73 posts on the subject and 6000 views, I think the point has been made. We're probably now in danger of over-egging the pudding.
My view is that if a response is to be made, I'll happily wait a few days to see it. If nothing happens, I can then make my mind up about further involvement.

Oooooh, I did wonder how long before we degenerated into the normal PPRune personal insults.

And from a new poster!!

Where is my popcorn.

:ok:

Blimey bose, severe case of pot/kettle/black. :=

Aye Bose you taildragging meat bombing multi licensed examinor pilot you.

Bose

I totally agree we should not get personal!

But you have posted a few times your last post included that with all these internet sites hits are all important for advertising revenue and hence the value of the site.

We all know of one very very long thread where abuse of innocent people myself included was allowed and blind eyes were turned from the sites code of conduct obviously to generate site hits and massive hits at that!

This is a Rumor site and rumor has it that the thread was closed down by external legal threats and not what we were told!

So you have probably hit the nail on the head re no advertising is bad advertising and site hits ;)

Personally I think it is a great site with wonderful contributors and moderators just needs a bit of tweaking


Pace

Guys, the best way to deal with any 'issues' is to contact Internet Brands, the owners of pprune.

Internet Brands, Inc. : Contact Us

Failing that, we have CleeIB here on the forum who I'm sure would listen to any GENUINE problems anyone may have with strange goings on etc.

http://www.pprune.org/members/352424-cleeib

Clee is pprune admin for Internet brands.

Nah, I am just **** stirring. Its a quiet day...... :p:p:p:p

As I'm sure you are aware, Internet Brands have numerous sites to look after, not just this one. A PM to CleeIB would not be a bad thing, or an e-mail to them.

I'm fairly sure they are aware of certain issues with the forum, other peoples input may help them better pprune - worth a try.

Done.

OC619

I really hope Towers boxes clever on this one and backs off to quickly gets G reinstated in the forums albeit not as a mod! I am sure he would prefer the freedom of being independent anyway!

Life is really too short for all these petty meaningless squabbles! Anything less would be a negative move considering the strong feelings of many of its long standing and respected members.

Pace

The alert amongst us will notice many regular and respected contributors are biding their silence over this issue.

Why? I do not mean that in any funny way just curious!

Pace

Gen the Man,

they say you still read this.......so thumbs up from Ecuador then, mate!

Just let this sour water flow down from your duck`s back!


###Ultra Long Hauler###

:bored:

and even more

:bored:

:mad:

And even more

:mad: ;)

I wouldn't consider myself a long-term member who's biding my silence, and over the past few weeks I've been away and reading the forum infrequently enough that I can't imagine what thread could have led to Genghis' suspension. However, I've been round for long enough to have thoroughly appreciated his depth of knowledge and valuable and good humoured contributions to the forum. I hope that we'll see this cleared up sooner rather than later.

I also feel that disclosing somebody's name on a forum is a breach of trust. I value the ability to discuss issues openly and anonymously on internet fora without fearing that details of my personal life may become available to my colleagues and patients, and I would choose to leave any forum where a poster's anonymity is liable to be broken at the whim of a single moderator, if this is indeed what has happened.

As an infrequent poster but one who has met GTE in real life so to speak and who has valued his contributions I would like to say that he is a top chap, full of useful info; albeit a lot younger than I thought he would be (Ghengis the Toddler sprang to mind when I met him) and I hope he is reinstated here in his full capacities as engineer and pilot at large.

Sadly I missed the fracas that led to his dismissal so am unable to comment on the validity of it. I'm sure though that common sense, and meaningful intercourse with the site owners and advertisers will see a return to the status quo that we all feel comfortable with.

Genghis is one of the (fairly) few contributors who make reading PPrune a valuable learning experience. I sincerely hope that he will be back soon.

Cue for a song?:{:{

Just to add my name as one of those who would miss Ghengis and his knowledgeable posts. Have no idea what the stoush is about, but hope it's quickly sorted and we see his return.

I notice with appreciation that at least some of Genghis' posts have been returned to being visible. Though I am unaware of Genghis' present relationship to PPRuNe, the quiet return of so much of his previous effort is a good step forward.