Irish Aviation Authority: Make Your Own Charts
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Irish Aviation Authority: Make Your Own Charts
Irish Independent, Mon Aug 5th:
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Low flying choppers urged to avoid 'sensitive areas'
HELICOPTER pilots have been urged to avoid over-flying a series of "sensitive areas" nationwide.
With a record number of helicopters now operating here, they have been told to keep away from nature reserves, bird sanctuaries, national parks, stud farms, archaeological sites, national monuments and horse and livestock shows.
An Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) spokeswoman said: "It is up to the owner or operator of the helicopter to know where these sensitive areas are and fly around or high above them so as not to cause disturbance."
They are asked to avoid a number stud farms and Dublin's Bull Island for the whole of the year. They are also told to steer clear of nature reserves at Rockabill Island off Skerries, north Co Dublin, Lamb Island off Dalkey, south Co Dublin and the Breaches at Kilcoole, Co Wicklow between May and August. Nature reserves at the North and South Slobs in Co Wexford are off-limits between October and April.
The authority says pilots should also avoid over-flying other sensitive locations such as hospitals, schools, places of worship and industrial and commercial complexes.
A spokesman for the National Parks and Wildlife Service said they are planning to introduce their own new regulations to deal with the nuisance of low-flying planes and helicopters.
The new rules are being drafted for the major parks at Glenveagh, Co Donegal; Connemara, Co Galway; Owenduff, Co Mayo; the Burren, Co Clare; Killarney, Co Kerry and the Wicklow Mountains.
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Comment: I know that as Pilots we're supposed to be aware of all relvent information for our proposed flights but presumably this means that before I can make my cross country I have to scour the area beneath my flightpath looking for archaeological sites, national monuments, stud farms, etc etc as the IAA is too lazy to mark all this on the charts. There are very few places in Ireland that are not within line of sight of such a place.
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(posted in full for for the benefit of those
who haven't registered):
Low flying choppers urged to avoid 'sensitive areas'
HELICOPTER pilots have been urged to avoid over-flying a series of "sensitive areas" nationwide.
With a record number of helicopters now operating here, they have been told to keep away from nature reserves, bird sanctuaries, national parks, stud farms, archaeological sites, national monuments and horse and livestock shows.
An Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) spokeswoman said: "It is up to the owner or operator of the helicopter to know where these sensitive areas are and fly around or high above them so as not to cause disturbance."
They are asked to avoid a number stud farms and Dublin's Bull Island for the whole of the year. They are also told to steer clear of nature reserves at Rockabill Island off Skerries, north Co Dublin, Lamb Island off Dalkey, south Co Dublin and the Breaches at Kilcoole, Co Wicklow between May and August. Nature reserves at the North and South Slobs in Co Wexford are off-limits between October and April.
The authority says pilots should also avoid over-flying other sensitive locations such as hospitals, schools, places of worship and industrial and commercial complexes.
A spokesman for the National Parks and Wildlife Service said they are planning to introduce their own new regulations to deal with the nuisance of low-flying planes and helicopters.
The new rules are being drafted for the major parks at Glenveagh, Co Donegal; Connemara, Co Galway; Owenduff, Co Mayo; the Burren, Co Clare; Killarney, Co Kerry and the Wicklow Mountains.
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Comment: I know that as Pilots we're supposed to be aware of all relvent information for our proposed flights but presumably this means that before I can make my cross country I have to scour the area beneath my flightpath looking for archaeological sites, national monuments, stud farms, etc etc as the IAA is too lazy to mark all this on the charts. There are very few places in Ireland that are not within line of sight of such a place.
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Well, I don't know about Ireland, but in the UK, the charts show nature reserves, bird sanctuaries, etc, and up to what altitude you should avoid overflying them. Same goes, I think, for every other VFR chart I've used, which is US charts, French charts, and Jeppesen charts, although I'm less familiar with those and I'd need to check to be certain.
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My understanding is that the Irish OS makes the chart and Aer Rianta (The irish Airports Authority!) 'approves it'.
My point is that the definitions they use are extraordinarily vague. You can't walk 1Km in Ireland without passing something of alledged historical or archeological significance. And any farm with a randy horse is arguably a stud farm.
On the one hand pilots are being told that they can be held accountable for going 'too near' to these places. On the other hand they aren't being told what they are in advance!
Kafka eat your heart out.....
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My point is that the definitions they use are extraordinarily vague. You can't walk 1Km in Ireland without passing something of alledged historical or archeological significance. And any farm with a randy horse is arguably a stud farm.
On the one hand pilots are being told that they can be held accountable for going 'too near' to these places. On the other hand they aren't being told what they are in advance!
Kafka eat your heart out.....
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On the occassions I've travelled to Ireland, it was hard enough to find somebody sufficiently awake to be consciously aware that there is an aircraft in the vicinity 
Recently I landed at a sizeable ILS field there; they could not find out how to switch on the fuel pump. Half an hour later when they found somebody who knew, they filled my plane up and then turned off the pump and lost the reading... then tried to charge me for about 20% more than my flowmeter was showing (and the pump was showing before they turned it off...)
Outside of busy places e.g. Dublin, the whole place is incredibly casual...
Recently I landed at a sizeable ILS field there; they could not find out how to switch on the fuel pump. Half an hour later when they found somebody who knew, they filled my plane up and then turned off the pump and lost the reading... then tried to charge me for about 20% more than my flowmeter was showing (and the pump was showing before they turned it off...)
Outside of busy places e.g. Dublin, the whole place is incredibly casual...
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IO540,
What a singularly dreadful experience!
You are obviously an individual possessed of considerable resource to have made your escape back to the 'SE' where such a unique series of calamities has never been recorded in the annals of that region.
Perhaps you might be good enough to alert all of us lazy Ahhhrish well in advance of your next voyage.
It will allow us to set our alarm clocks in preparation for your visit…after we struggle through our night courses on how to tell the time.
With sufficient prior notice we might even master the intricacies of fuel pump key operation, but I’m afraid we’ll have to charge you that extra 20% on general principals alone.
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What a singularly dreadful experience!
You are obviously an individual possessed of considerable resource to have made your escape back to the 'SE' where such a unique series of calamities has never been recorded in the annals of that region.
Perhaps you might be good enough to alert all of us lazy Ahhhrish well in advance of your next voyage.
It will allow us to set our alarm clocks in preparation for your visit…after we struggle through our night courses on how to tell the time.
With sufficient prior notice we might even master the intricacies of fuel pump key operation, but I’m afraid we’ll have to charge you that extra 20% on general principals alone.
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No offence intended, I was merely suggesting that the subject of this thread might not be a huge issue, due to insufficient regulatory resources in the region concerned
No offence intended, I was merely suggesting that the subject of this thread might not be a huge issue, due to insufficient regulatory resources in the region concerned
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IO540,
Fair Enough!
Ad-hoc regulation is a contentious issue in Ireland at the moment, especially for general aviation.
Our benighted aviation authority is quite capable of promulgating its edicts via anonymous newspaper articles, or by scribbling them on the backs of paper planes and pegging them out of the windows of its head office…
That’s a place in Ireland where a lot of advanced snoozing certainly does go on.
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Fair Enough!
Ad-hoc regulation is a contentious issue in Ireland at the moment, especially for general aviation.
Our benighted aviation authority is quite capable of promulgating its edicts via anonymous newspaper articles, or by scribbling them on the backs of paper planes and pegging them out of the windows of its head office…
That’s a place in Ireland where a lot of advanced snoozing certainly does go on.
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