The Dreaded Hi-viz vest
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Interesting thread and all the comments seem petulant to me.
Whilst everyone is saying that the hi-viz vest is not a good idea are they also saying its a bad idea too.
It strikes me that many on this thread object to the handheld mobile laws starting tomorrow.
The issue is very simple. Someone somewhere is looking to sue someone else. Any excuse to sue will be given and any weakness in the behaviour of the someone being sued will be used against them.
Now airfields are by their own admission dangerous places. Every airfield I have been to says so.
Not to take precautions that are considered normal today is pretty stupid. The goal posts have moved and it makes sense to move with them whether you like it or not.
I wear a high viz vest on the airfield, I wear one at work most days anyway (construction), for me it just a continuation of thinking in a safe frame of mind. Not just for my safety but of others.
Bit like those idiots who delay switching on their headlights saying "I can see OK". The point of putting the headlights on is to be seen.
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Whilst everyone is saying that the hi-viz vest is not a good idea are they also saying its a bad idea too.
It strikes me that many on this thread object to the handheld mobile laws starting tomorrow.
The issue is very simple. Someone somewhere is looking to sue someone else. Any excuse to sue will be given and any weakness in the behaviour of the someone being sued will be used against them.
Now airfields are by their own admission dangerous places. Every airfield I have been to says so.
Not to take precautions that are considered normal today is pretty stupid. The goal posts have moved and it makes sense to move with them whether you like it or not.
I wear a high viz vest on the airfield, I wear one at work most days anyway (construction), for me it just a continuation of thinking in a safe frame of mind. Not just for my safety but of others.
Bit like those idiots who delay switching on their headlights saying "I can see OK". The point of putting the headlights on is to be seen.
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I am late into this long thread, but hi-vis vests are 99% about "due diligence" in case of a liability claim.
Litigation, spurious or not, is the 2nd biggest issue (after achieving sales targets
) of most businesses with a large public profile.
Litigation, spurious or not, is the 2nd biggest issue (after achieving sales targets
) of most businesses with a large public profile.
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I have no objection to wearing hi-viz. I carry one and wear it where necessary.
What gets my goat is when the rule is made without good cause.
Safety is about risk management. You assess the risk and take precautions where required.
In making safety rules about things that carry low levels of risk you can lose sight of the real dangers in a sea of petifogging bureaucracy.
The increased level of risk to a pilot walking to his aircraft on the average GA field without a waistcoat compared to with one is probably immeasurably small. I can't think of a single reported incident of an accident in such circumstances that would have been prevented by hi-viz clothing.
Where people make rules based on covering their backides rather than on the basis of a proper assessment of the risk they do the cause of safety no good at all.
Mike
I have no objection to wearing hi-viz. I carry one and wear it where necessary.
What gets my goat is when the rule is made without good cause.
Safety is about risk management. You assess the risk and take precautions where required.
In making safety rules about things that carry low levels of risk you can lose sight of the real dangers in a sea of petifogging bureaucracy.
The increased level of risk to a pilot walking to his aircraft on the average GA field without a waistcoat compared to with one is probably immeasurably small. I can't think of a single reported incident of an accident in such circumstances that would have been prevented by hi-viz clothing.
Where people make rules based on covering their backides rather than on the basis of a proper assessment of the risk they do the cause of safety no good at all.
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The situation in the US is far worse. You are compelled to wear a ridiculous Hi Viz baseball cap.
The only redeeming consession is that you are allowed to shoot anyone that looks like they will run you over.
The only redeeming consession is that you are allowed to shoot anyone that looks like they will run you over.
Perhaps we should all come up with the hazards or WEARING a HiViz Jacket!!
Here's one from me:-
Whilst hand swinging the Velcro fastening might come undo causing said jecket to become entangled with (now rotating) prop thereby causing death or severe injury to hand swinger.
By the way, where/how can I buy the jackets with the rude comments on the back - if I HAVE to wear one its going to have a message on it!!
Here's one from me:-
Whilst hand swinging the Velcro fastening might come undo causing said jecket to become entangled with (now rotating) prop thereby causing death or severe injury to hand swinger.
By the way, where/how can I buy the jackets with the rude comments on the back - if I HAVE to wear one its going to have a message on it!!
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Maybe we have the solution to the hoary old problem of 'invisible' gliders.......
Make their pilots wear hi vis jackets in flight
Its the kind of solution that our beaurocrats would love...
- funded by the complyee
- a great PR story
- can be done today - a quick win
and
of
use whatsoever ...... so a definite winner
Make their pilots wear hi vis jackets in flight
Its the kind of solution that our beaurocrats would love...
- funded by the complyee
- a great PR story
- can be done today - a quick win
and
of
use whatsoever ...... so a definite winner
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