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Im not in the same position (Im child no. 1 age 18) - my mum, dad and bro (age 16) are queueing up to fly!!(I really thought my speedy driving would have put them off)
My other aviation job involves flying a lot of young (age 13 to 15) first timers. Often they are really keen but nervous, but sometimes i get the really nervous one who doesnt want to take control let alone do any turning. Often this is due to a lack of understanding with whats going on. Often they think that if the engine fails all is doomed and that you will crash and burn. I find normally a good brief or chat so to speak works and often answers questions so maybe that or perhaps a trial lesson with someone else for the mrs?
You could always go and get checked on a four seater with an instructor and stick the mrs in the back!?!? (kill 2 birds with 1 stone)
My other aviation job involves flying a lot of young (age 13 to 15) first timers. Often they are really keen but nervous, but sometimes i get the really nervous one who doesnt want to take control let alone do any turning. Often this is due to a lack of understanding with whats going on. Often they think that if the engine fails all is doomed and that you will crash and burn. I find normally a good brief or chat so to speak works and often answers questions so maybe that or perhaps a trial lesson with someone else for the mrs?
You could always go and get checked on a four seater with an instructor and stick the mrs in the back!?!? (kill 2 birds with 1 stone)
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Has your wife ever been flying with you? Does she travel in the car with you? Does she worry about you going flying on your own?
(2) Yes, but you've got a fair chance of being able to stop a car if you're suddenly ill I suppose.
(3) Not much. But she won't have the two of us in the same light aircraft, whoever's flying, if the children are on the ground. (Except once in Sydney.)
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So I assume that your wife didn't worry that you were going to kill her when you went flying before you had children?
And yes, I guess you can stop a car if you're ill - but I suspect most accidents in cars are not due to the driver suddnely keeling over, but because of other idiots on the roads - so in fact your chances in the air are somewhat better :-)
That said, I can kind of understand her thinking I guess, in that I hate my ex taking all of the kids off in the car without me, as I worry that if something were to happen (however remote the possibility!) I'd lose them all - and be stuck here without them - likewise, I suppose, her fear of the two of you flying together, whilst the kids are on the ground...
Not helpful to you really - although I'd never let my (irrational?) worries stop life carrying on as normal - and believe that the children too are entitled to make some decisions themselves...
How old are your children?
And yes, I guess you can stop a car if you're ill - but I suspect most accidents in cars are not due to the driver suddnely keeling over, but because of other idiots on the roads - so in fact your chances in the air are somewhat better :-)
That said, I can kind of understand her thinking I guess, in that I hate my ex taking all of the kids off in the car without me, as I worry that if something were to happen (however remote the possibility!) I'd lose them all - and be stuck here without them - likewise, I suppose, her fear of the two of you flying together, whilst the kids are on the ground...
Not helpful to you really - although I'd never let my (irrational?) worries stop life carrying on as normal - and believe that the children too are entitled to make some decisions themselves...
How old are your children?
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So I assume that your wife didn't worry that you were going to kill her when you went flying before you had children?
How old are your children?
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So, all my asking around so far being in vain (for someone prepared to sit in the RHS of a 172 and do nothing and not be able to log the time) ... do any PPRuNers round Cambridge feel like helping out
If you're really stuck, drop me a PM. I'm not local to Cambridge, and I'm likely to be quite busy as I think about starting to use my weekends to get myself an instructor rating, but I'll try to help out if I can - we can't have kids who are that eager to fly being grounded!
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PS - Has your wife considered learning to fly? Some clubs even do a "safety pilot" course, teaching a passenger how to get home land the aircraft in an emergency, but not much more than that. Sounds like just the thing your family needs!
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The only tip I can give, is to make sure you do a formal saftey brief everytime you fly.
I always do a formal brief when flying with anyone other than when I'm under instruction. I was surprised by how quickly my attitude to saftey spread among my friends! I think they were a bit surprised as they get quite nervous with me in a car
I took my mum flying, because she really wanted to come, but she was very nervous about comming. Some time later I over heard a conversation between her and a friend of hers. My mum admitted to her friend that she used to worry about me going flying, but ever since she came flying with me, and saw my rigid attitude to saftey, she stopped worring.
So try to do a formal brief on each flight, and hopefully the word will get back!
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I always do a formal brief when flying with anyone other than when I'm under instruction. I was surprised by how quickly my attitude to saftey spread among my friends! I think they were a bit surprised as they get quite nervous with me in a car
I took my mum flying, because she really wanted to come, but she was very nervous about comming. Some time later I over heard a conversation between her and a friend of hers. My mum admitted to her friend that she used to worry about me going flying, but ever since she came flying with me, and saw my rigid attitude to saftey, she stopped worring.
So try to do a formal brief on each flight, and hopefully the word will get back!
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This is the age old problem of people's worry quotient being more about their perception of the risks involved in something rather than the actual risks involved. Trying to get around the problem of the actual risks doesn't often work because you can't get past the perception barrier.
I used to get people to come gliding many years ago (a good example since people's perception of the risks associated with gliding are oftern worse than those associated with flying due to lack of noisy thing in front) by telling them to come to the airfield and just enjoy the view- no pressure to go up at all. Great fun on a sunny day. Needless to say that once people had watched the operation running for a while and become comfortable with the environment, and therefore adjusted their perception of the risk, they invariably opted for a flight.
I used to get people to come gliding many years ago (a good example since people's perception of the risks associated with gliding are oftern worse than those associated with flying due to lack of noisy thing in front) by telling them to come to the airfield and just enjoy the view- no pressure to go up at all. Great fun on a sunny day. Needless to say that once people had watched the operation running for a while and become comfortable with the environment, and therefore adjusted their perception of the risk, they invariably opted for a flight.
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Keep us posted on how this eventually works out, GTW. I am going to be in the same boat although my lighty is just shy of a year so I supect that by the time he is old enough to fly I will have the requisite experience.
Mrs Bok is a nervous flyer, even in bigs, so I am not holding my breath to get her deeply interested in the whole thing.
Beyond the obvious fear of flying, I have also found a mistrust when family or friends suddenly become qualified people. My little sister is now a physio and many of my drunken mates from varsity are now doctors. It's always a bit weird experiencing them in their "Official" personas for the first time.
In fact, I am about to start training with a CFI who was a few years junior to me at school. It's a bit odd to remember these snotty little things suddenly teaching you what's what.
Mrs Bok is a nervous flyer, even in bigs, so I am not holding my breath to get her deeply interested in the whole thing.
Beyond the obvious fear of flying, I have also found a mistrust when family or friends suddenly become qualified people. My little sister is now a physio and many of my drunken mates from varsity are now doctors. It's always a bit weird experiencing them in their "Official" personas for the first time.
In fact, I am about to start training with a CFI who was a few years junior to me at school. It's a bit odd to remember these snotty little things suddenly teaching you what's what.
