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Old 10th Jan 2019, 11:28
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ADS B and Flightradar24 app

Should I be showing up on a tracking app with my brand new Garmin GTX 335 Transponder with ADS-B? I assumed I would, but SWMBO cannot find me on her app.

The local airport approach radar guys are quite happy that they can see all my secondary data, so there is nothing wrong with the unit.

Just curious...
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 14:51
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Drop flight radar 24 a line confirming you want your details shown including your HEX code and a photo of your own choosing, if you don’t send a photo they will use a stock photo credited to someone else, your choice!
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 16:38
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Aaaaah Ivor thanks. I did not realise that you had to allow access. I'll do as you say and see what happens.

Many thanks
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 07:05
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A line dropped will not be enough, you may have to sign a contract with them to allow processing of personal data - GDPDR is in place.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 08:31
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I neither sent them a message, or signed any contract, but my flights show up on FR24 ?
I'm using Dynon Skyview with PAW connected to my Transponder for ADSB
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 08:59
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I believe if it’s your personal aircraft then you have to give them permission to show it on FR24, that’s what I did when it didn’t show,
if it’s a public or company owned aircraft then it can be shown unless you formally opted out,
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 09:44
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Originally Posted by BobD View Post
I neither sent them a message, or signed any contract, but my flights show up on FR24 ?
I'm using Dynon Skyview with PAW connected to my Transponder for ADSB
AFAIHBT using PAW and OGN can be used as agreement to show personal data, kind of abandoning your rights to protect your personal data (sorry if not cited correctly from a law layman).
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 12:47
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Originally Posted by ivorPhillips View Post
I believe if itís your personal aircraft then you have to give them permission to show it on FR24, thatís what I did when it didnít show,
if itís a public or company owned aircraft then it can be shown unless you formally opted out,
Mine is a personal aircraft, but I have never had any contact with FR24, apart from seeing my flights on their webpage. Ivor, I think we both fly the same aircraft (Europa)
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 12:52
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The aeropanes I fly from Redhill with Cubair *(such as PA-28 G-BUIJ) generally show up on FR24. I shall find out whether we gave specific permission or they just appear because they can.

Appreciate that there are things like the plodicopter that won't show up (for obvious reasons) but I can't really think that some of the middle eastern airlines actually gave explicit permission to be shown.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 14:06
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Before GDPDR you had to explicitly order your aircraft to be removed from showing in FR24, maybe there are remains from that times? Airliners do show up because things like GDPDR do not apply for tracking public transport. But, I guess some countries like US, Israel etceteras will have their 'special treatments' for portals like this.
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 23:10
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Interesting that GDPR allegedly applies to FR24, but evidently not to the CAA’s GINFO.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 07:23
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A very helpful chap from FR24 advised me to go to their forum page and this is what I found. I hope they don't mind me quoting it in full.

<<The airplane information shown on FR24 is not transmitted by the airplane. The information comes from a giant database that has been built up manually during 5 years time. It's based on the unique Hex/ModeS code that is transmitted by the airplane.
Every day there are new deliveries and old aircraft getting new owners, so new information have to be added into database daily.
Help us updating the database by posting the Hex/ModeS code together with aircraft information in this thread. The format that will make it quick and easy for us to update the database is:


ModeS/Hex-code - always needed
Registration
ICAO Type code - sets the icon
Type
MSN
Airline / Owner - no individuals, trustees or leasing companies
Paint code (ICAO) - should reflect the livery of the aircraft - ICAO code only, not IATA code or name
Operator code (ICAO) - ICAO code only, not IATA code or name
First flight date - not delivery date - format year-mm-dd (if mm or dd is unknown replace with 00, for example 2012-06-00)>>

So I shall collect the data and add it to their thread, and see what happens after a few weeks.

I fly over a lot of bundu so would like people to know where I am (most of the time....)

Thanks for your answers.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 08:33
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I fly over a lot of bundu so would like people to know where I am
Also bear in mind that FR24 relies on people with ADSB receivers to feed the information - if there is no one with a receiver fairly locally and you are bimbling around at low level, then the system may not be able to see you.

Whereabouts are you flying?
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 13:26
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treadi, my bit of bundu is the less inhabited bits of South Africa. We get good FR24 at airline cruising altitude and most areas have good connectivity down to around 8000', where I spend my time these days.

It seems there are enough keen FR24'ers in SA that they have installed the receivers in their home towns, so we have pretty good coverage.

But I take your point, this relies on line of sight for position finding, unlike the SPOT or Garmin or similar satellite based safety systems.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 12:24
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Have you connected your gps or gps aerial l to the 335 as it needs to be connected to be seen on fl24
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 22:30
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Good suggestion md, I'll have a look. It was installed professionally but you never know... It should be integrated with the GTN650 aerial I think.
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