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Old 1st Jan 2017, 21:01
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Maurice sticking two fingers up at old age and living the words of Dylan Thomas. Good luck to him!

Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night

'Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.'
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 22:11
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https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarch...0-%200430.html

Bear Attacks Plane, Pilot Fixes Plane With Duct Tape, Pilot Flies Duct-Taped Plane Home

Recovering aircraft from difficult situations often requires imagination and balls.
I wish Maurice well.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 23:38
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Originally Posted by Step Turn
Yes, but those aircraft were returning from urgent efforts under extreme duress, as opposed to departing on a recreational activity. I wonder in KURK will takeoff with a log book entry stating that the the repairs were done in accordance with approved/acceptable data, and that the aircraft is airworthy?

We should not condone a lesser standard of airworthiness just because a character would like to continue a recreational journey without due diligence in repair and maintenance following a crash - particularly when that individual is flying a G aircraft outside the UK, and seemingly "representing" private recreational aviation.
Whether recreational or survival I think is irrelevant, in either case it is considered necessary by the pilot.
A logbook entry is not going to hold the aircraft together, nuts and bolts do that, regardless of bits of paper.
I wouldn't believe that the old trailblazers over Canada wouldn't have done the same if the need arose. It's only today's society's rules that say it "can't be done".
Let's see it fly before commenting on the competence of the engineering.
This guy is representing the spirit of DOING it, anyone with two brain cells wouldn't believe that normal, every day GA is practiced in this fashion.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 00:00
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A logbook entry is not going to hold the aircraft together, nuts and bolts do that, regardless of bits of paper.
Of course not. However, a proper logbook entry is a record that the work required for the aircraft to be safe was performed, and by whom. The work required for the aircraft to be safe is a minimum for the aircraft to hold together.

Yes, I have flown some pretty scary looking damaged aircraft home from the bush for full repair. But, I did it after the required inspection, and with a flight permit. And the destination was not furthering a recreational trip, it was to a suitable repair facility.

Yes, guts and duct tape, but to get out the best you can, not to thumb your nose to safe flying practice, and continue outward on a trip of fancy.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 00:10
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Originally Posted by Step Turn
Of course not. However, a proper logbook entry is a record that the work required for the aircraft to be safe was performed, and by whom. The work required for the aircraft to be safe is a minimum for the aircraft to hold together.

Yes, I have flown some pretty scary looking damaged aircraft home from the bush for full repair. But, I did it after the required inspection, and with a flight permit. And the destination was not furthering a recreational trip, it was to a suitable repair facility.

Yes, guts and duct tape, but to get out the best you can, not to thumb your nose to safe flying practice, and continue outward on a trip of fancy.
We don't yet know his intentions once airborne, he may agree and get to a suitable "new wings and Cub bits shop" somewhere in the bush.
Give him a chance.
Like it's said. Fools and women shouldn't see things half finished.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 17:20
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If MK wants to repair his aircraft and fly on, that's up to him. He's made a decision.

But he should also accept the consequences of that decision; which in this case may well be fine/prosecution/whatever if he's broken regs (as others have said; inspected and signed off?).

And by the look of that leading edge...possible aerodynamic and then aircraft /terrain interface issues!

Yes, he's got guts. Sense? Possibly not. This is a non urgent recreational activity in the 21st century, not flying a WW2 bomber or pioneering across North America in the '20s....
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 17:57
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But he should also accept the consequences of that decision; which in this case may well be fine/prosecution/whatever if he's broken regs (as others have said; inspected and signed off?).
Or death; that's another option.

I truly hope not, but has been said often enough elsewhere about aviation regulations - "Historically, each paragraph has been written in blood".
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 18:24
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Nah, he has a hi-vis jacket on in those recent photographs. Safety is obviously on his mind.

Good luck to him.
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 17:09
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He has arrived in Nairobi
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 17:19
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With his aeroplane?
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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 19:51
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From his FB page.
Maurice is back in Nairobi to gather additional gear for his bird.
He is in good spirit and has offered to have a speech about his ventures at the aero club on Friday evening.
Lars Svensson
He will get back to Loki together with an aircraft technician for the final touches on Saturday.
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 06:37
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He seems to be asking for people who posted on this thread to get in touch:-

https://mauricejohnkirk.wordpress.com/
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 07:44
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He seems to be asking for people who posted on this thread to get in touch:-

https://mauricejohnkirk.wordpress.com/
He certainly need legal (and/or psychiatric) support - I'm not sure if there is any such thing as a "class action" in English civil law, but even if there was I can't see how it's relevant to his situation.

(IANAL)

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 07:53
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There certainly is UK style class action law.

A newly introduced law allows British courts to hear US-style class actions - where one or several people sue on behalf of a much larger group.
The Consumer Rights Act 2015 will make it far easier for groups of consumers to seek compensation from firms that have fixed prices and formed cartels.
It introduces "opt out" actions where everyone affected is automatically a member of the "class" which is suing.
Consumer groups say it is a huge step forward in helping secure compensation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34402483

Some years ago he was arrested and spent time in prison on remand over a deactivated machine gun fitted to an old aircraft he owned.

The airframe had the gun mounted when he bought it and by the subsequent owners who were not challenged over it.

I understand the case was dropped but he felt he was victimised.
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 08:02
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IANAL, but that looks like a specific provision in c0nsumer law on anti-competitive action rather than the concept of class actions as they exist in (say) most american states. Looking at the way he behaves I have ti say I'm not surprised he talked his way into a police cell.

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 08:14
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As I have said before a lawyer takes his dog to a vet and the vet should have taken his problems to a lawyer.
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Oh absolutely.

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 18:49
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 19:04
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Bit of a thump then. Good to see he's seen sense and got engineers involved
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 19:54
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Can't see any damage in the spar (fingers crossed). Some D sections are obvious candidates for replacement. Then needs a local recover.

Local repairs bode to be more economic than in EASA land. Hint: Take extensive photos of repairs.
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