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Old 2nd Sep 2016, 14:46
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just an old rickety GPS
Not sure I've heard the Garmin 430 described thus before but I may be wrong...
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She is the owner of Spirit of Artemis
Which is what I understand those who I feel deserve to know better believed when I spoke to them. The FAA lists 56200 as registered to 3G Classic Aviation Inc. with a registered office in Wilmington, Delaware - I thought this was Ewald's company? I can understand that claiming to be the only one doing the flying whilst the 'navigator' takes care of the tricky stuff up front might be difficult to disprove whilst flying over the boondocks but why make such a blatantly false statement that can so easily be verified online? And she claims she has no moving map and only 'an old rickety GPS' (the pre-satellite GPS's were referred to as maps and came with aids such as a compass, chinograph pencils, protractors and rulers) - does she not know the G430 has a Moving Map Display?

And is she a Commercial Pilot? Does she hold either an EASA CPL or FAA Commercial, because the August 2015 AAIB report states that she held a PPL and the FAA register a Private Pilots Certificate. I'm not suggesting that she couldn't have achieved either or indeed both in the past year but she would appear to have been rather busy doing other things.

The only credible statement I read was where she said "she turned the plane through thirty degrees, and handled the crash landing"; judging by the images of the wreckage and knowing the surrounding terrain at Winslow, I can easily believe that.

This sounds like the stuff of fantasy to me and I am unable to understand why she would continue to maintain this apparent deceit, although I'm sure it's all water off a duck's back to Tim Kelly - no publicity is bad publicity. On second thoughts, maybe TCT is just a pawn caught up in something that has rapidly eclipsed her own ability and is now in it too deep to get out?

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I think TCT has taken the phrase 'Living the Dream' to a whole new level.
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Her story gets better with every telling, doesn't it?


Does she even own that Ryan - or was it lent to her?

A pic of the Stearman's cockpit setup appears in post #902 on page 46.

"I had a lot of training, ironically with some military pilots .. etc." See canopener's post #244 on page 13.
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Old 2nd Sep 2016, 16:59
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G-INFO shows the Ryan registered to TC-T. It currently does not have a c of A.......


On second thoughts, maybe TCT is just a pawn caught up in something that has rapidly eclipsed her own ability and is now in it too deep to get out?
Think you maybe near the truth, would take a "big" person to admit the truth and climb down.....
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Old 2nd Sep 2016, 17:00
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Quoting the quote I presume that Airpolice attributes to TCT (I did not hear it myself)

"I do have some modern aids in my Stearman. I fly it with a compass and I've got, you know I do have a little GPS to give me A to B, but I've got no moving map, I have no terrain information. "
Maybe the avionics appearing in the photo in post 884, which appears to me to be a Garmin 430 (both moving map and terrain data base able) was unserviceable the whole time... Otherwise, were it to have been functioning as designed (airworthy), TCT is being dishonest about her "little" GPS.

"I have an ipad with my airspace because that's often a very difficult thing when you fly a vintage aeroplane through so many countries, crossing international borders, through military zones, restricted airspace, into international airports, it's very difficult to do with an aeroplane like this.""
I don't think that the type of plane makes it any more difficult to fly through military airspace and restricted zones!

"This is an aerobatic aeroplane, so I can be turning steeply around things. I had a lot of training, ironically with some military pilots, and I did a little bit of display flying, and formation flying and aerobatic training, so all of that really came together for these expeditions for the sort of flying that we're doing."
If you're "turning steeply around things" on a well planned long distance flight, you're doing it wrong!

"Sometimes I'm only half a wingspan away from rock faces, or flying the dead sea at about 15 feet in formation with another Stearman."
Well, there's some wisdom there, hitting rock faces can hurt a Stearman much more than hitting a parked R44. But, again, couldn't she plan a long distance flight to give her more than a half a wingspan clearance to obstacles? Aren't there regulations about minimum safe distances and altitudes? Did she not just admit to violating air regulations?! Do the authorities not have an interest tin this?

I sure hope that the inspireable new pilots of either gender are not paying any attention to this nonsense! It certainly is no service to mentoring safe piloting!
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Careful - the Delaware corporation may be a trust to circumvent the requirements for N registered aircraft to be owned by US citizens, legal residents or US controlled corporations. She may indeed be the preferential owner of the registration plate and whichever aircraft it is attached to at a particular time.

I must agree that this repetition is becoming monotonous. There is little point in complaining to the BBC about an interview that has been broadcast. Far better to turn up to TCT's next solo journey and ask some difficult questions / ask the passenger some difficult questions in front of the admiring press. Nothing the press likes more than a good story.
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Old 2nd Sep 2016, 21:03
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More 'solo' claims on her facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/birdinabiplane/


One Pilot Explains Our Deep Desire To Fly


In order to respect the power and ingenuity of modern day aircraft, you have to look to the past.
When female pilot Tracey Curtis-Taylor landed in Sydney, Australia after a 14,600-mile journey flying solo from the U.K. in a vintage open-cockpit biplane earlier this year, the first thing she said was "I need a drink!"

And who could blame her? The treacherous journey was far from easy. It took about three months in total and Curtis-Taylor encountered countless obstacles along the way. Not only did she fly through thick fog in Romania and dust storms in Saudi Arabia, but at one point she found herself surrounded by birds of prey over Pakistan. Eagles, buzzards and vultures swarmed around her. She knew that if one got into the engine it would prove fatal for both her and the bird.

Luckily Curtis-Taylor survived and made it to her destination safely. Her bravery is truly astounding. Trace Dominguez got a chance to catch up with her at this year's Farnborough International Airshow in Hampshire, England where she told him all about her vintage plane, a Boeing-Stearman named Spirit of Artemis.

A plane like this is "probably the best flying adventure in the world," Curtis-Taylor told Trace. She explained that they're almost like art more than they are machine -- an art that should be preserved because it's starting to die out.

Curtis-Taylor said she often encounters aviation students that don't know how to fly planes like these and she thinks it's quite a shame. "I think this generation needs to be reminded ya know, that civil aviation was based really on people like me getting into wooden-fabric airplanes," she told Trace.

That's the important thing to remember: aviation as we know it today wouldn't have been possible without people like Tracy Curtis-Taylor, her piloting skills, her passion, and her incredible bravery.

-- Molly Fosco
Perhaps someone can email this reminder from TCT ( UK ppl with around 1650 hours) to the Light Aircraft Association, the Air League and indeed the Honourable Company of Air Pilots so they get their collective heads around the issues these days of hands on solo flying.

A plane like this is "probably the best flying adventure in the world," Curtis-Taylor told Trace. She explained that they're almost like art more than they are machine -- an art that should be preserved because it's starting to die out.
Those Honourable Company of Air Pilots member who sit down to the wonderful awards dinner in six weeks time need to embrace the problems highlighted by our intrepid "Aviatrix and Inspirational" pilot.:ok
Curtis-Taylor said she often encounters aviation students that don't know how to fly planes like these and she thinks it's quite a shame. "I think this generation needs to be reminded ya know, that civil aviation was based really on people like me getting into wooden-fabric airplanes,"
She of course omits to mention that it helps if the guy who built the aircraft is sitting in the front seat and is a 20,000 hour commercial pilot.

Take a bow for the HCAP,Air League and Light Aircraft Asssociation ...Mr Ewald Gritsch.

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air police - cadets, maybe so. The air cadets didn't take girls until about 1983.
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Old 2nd Sep 2016, 21:50
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The BBC Radio Scotland interview is here...

BBC Radio Scotland - Out for the Weekend, 02/09/2016

"This is an aerobatic aeroplane, so I can be turning steeply around things. I had a lot of training, ironically with some military pilots, and I did a little bit of display flying, and formation flying and aerobatic training, so all of
This is a total lie.

Tracey was never been trained by any military pilots despite her claims.

During her time at Ardmore in Auckland New Zealand she was married to Steve Taylor who is well respected award winning aerobatic pilot. The Taylor in her name is gained from being married to him. All her aero experience was flown with Steve.

She claims she was a commercial pilot but most of that was ground instructing at Ardmore hence her lack of hours.
Her "30 years of flying " is a myth.

The spiel she turns out about lack of opportunity for women in aviation omits one key fact.

During her brief spell teaching ground school at Ardmore her boss was Liz Needham.
Liz Needham is New Zealand's most experienced woman pilot. She first went solo on St Valentine’s day in 1974, thus starting a long love affair with aviation. From her Aero club beginnings she has built up one of New Zealand's premier aviation training establishments and has continued on to where she is currently a Boeing 767 Captain for Air New Zealand. In her spare time she has become a huge influence within the general aviation and NZ Warbird scenes, amassing over 25,000 hours of flying, a lot of it using her A category instructors rating. This rating is awarded to the top instructors in New Zealand, and Liz was the first female pilots to achieve this.

For many years now she has flown her own Harvard in the Roaring Forties aerobatic display team as well as displaying her P40 Kittyhawk. As Frank is the President of New Zealand Warbirds, Liz rightly wears the name tag, "First Lady". We are proud to have Liz here today to fly her Kittyhawk and fly as 'No 2" in the Roaring Forties.
So why did Tracey never emulate her boss

Lack of opportunity? I don't think that story is true Tracey.

Your female boss at Ardmore was a genuine high flyer.

Liz Needham was part of NZ's first all female flight deck crew back in 1985 flying for Southern Cross.
On 29th of April 1985 the company made NZ aviation history with the country’s first all women flight crew on a commercial service when chief pilot, director and owner of the airline Liz Needham and First Officer Sarah Caldwell flew the morning Auckland-Whangarei-Auckland sectors in the Golden Eagle. On board was seventy year old aviatrix June Glen, one of a four woman pilot formation to meet and escort pioneering aviatrix Jean Batten to a landing at Wanganui in 1934.
Genuine women pilots there not emulating as you describe you antics.

All that opportunity on a plate and she could now be an Air New Zealand Captain just like Liz.

No goggles or leather flying jacket for Liz when she pilots the Spitfire.



Despite all her Sydney publicity there is not a single picture of Tracey back at Ardmore earlier this year.

One would have thought she might want to meet up,with all her flying chums after such an epic adventure

Footnote; Liz Needham comes from a flying family but despite her success in New Zealand refuses to have a wiki page.

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Old 2nd Sep 2016, 21:53
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The FAA don't seem to think she has a Commercial certificate or any instructor qualifications...
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Those of you with a long memory will know Barry Tempest as an aerobatic pilot and ex CAA man.
He was a member of the Rothmans Aerobatic team and spent nearly fourteen years working for the CAA.
To quote his Linked-in
Head of General Aviation - Operations at the UK CAA. I was with SRG for nearly 14 years from 1984 to 98



He has around 15000 hours in his log book.

He posted this on Tracey Curtis Taylor's facebook page today.

Barry Tempest;
Your claimed exploits have put the cause of Women in Aviation back 40 years. If you accept the HCAP award in the autumn you should be ashamed.
https://www.facebook.com/birdinabiplane/

Many thanks Barry for backing my campaign.

The various key members of the LAA,HCAP and AirLeague will no doubt be aware of your comments and concerns.

When someone of Barry Tempests stature voices their opinion so strongly on the eve of the LAA Rally, maybe it is time to take a second look at these so called awards dished out to a low houred but well connected 'pilot' who clearly has never been solo on any of her well publicised 'adventures'.

At the very least his comments are worth discussion over the coming weekend?


As for her 'commercial' qualifications.

She briefly held a basic grade 3 commercial pilots licence at Ardmore, Auckland, New Zealand in the 1990's. This lapsed nearly two decades ago. So,her claims of being a "30 year aviatrix" are pure [email protected]

It appears from my information that following a brief spell as a ground instructor she left Ardmore to work as a salesperson punting aerial photographs.

She appears to have not claimed any other occupation in the UK since she arrived from New Zealand around the year 2000. However she suddenly emerged as the Bird in the Biplane in 2013.

Her boss at Ardmore was Liz Needham who is the most successful female commercial and display pilot in NZ.

Footnote: All my posts carry links to substantiate and are not based on personal hearsay, other rumours or conjecture. If there are any errors I will be pleased to correct them.

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Old 2nd Sep 2016, 22:55
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Careful - the Delaware corporation may be a trust to circumvent the requirements for N registered aircraft to be owned by US citizens, legal residents or US controlled corporations. - Homonculus

Interesting, not least since this tends to confirm something similar about Delaware that I seem to recall from the Robert Weaver saga. I must of course strongly emphasise this is purely an observation, and absolutely nothing else.

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She is the owner of Spirit of Artemis
Which is what I understand those who I feel deserve to know better believed when I spoke to them. The FAA lists 56200 as registered to 3G Classic Aviation Inc. with a registered office in Wilmington, Delaware - I thought this was Ewald's company?
I had a look at the FAA registry and I see that 3G Classic Aviation Inc owns five Stearmans plus a J3 and a Ryan. Perhaps they all belong to TCT?

Incidentally, I had a look at registrations by State. There are 12,038 aircraft registered in Delaware, which is almost entirely due to Delaware's attractive corporation laws. My first job in the oil industry was working for Chevron in Calgary, but the company was registered in Delaware.
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My first plane was registered in Delaware, and my current plane is registered in Delaware - it's the standard route by which non-US citizens can 'own' a US registered aircraft.

Could of course be in any state, but Delaware is a tax-friendly so is chosen by nearly all Trusts...
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How about ... "fraud in a bi-plane" .. it's got a nice ring to it
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Barry Tempest's comment on her facebook page has been removed.
However here it is again.
"Your claimed exploits have put the cause of Women in Aviation back 40 years. If you accept the HCAP award in the autumn you should be ashamed."



More to the point Barry perhaps the HCAP should be ashamed?

When a man of of his stature makes such a statement it deserves being highlighted.
Barry is of course a highly qualified and much respected British pilot.
Is a Member of the Royal Aeronautical Society and the Historic Aircraft Association along with the British Aerobatic Association.
Has over 13,000 hours of flying experience in some 350 types and variants of light aircraft including over 8,000 hours instructing.
Started display flying in 1958 and has over 2,300 public airshow performances in the UK and many other countries including France, Germany and the USA.
Was a founder member of the Barnstormers Flying Circus in 1963 and, in 1971, flew with the famed Rothmans Aerobatic Team in Stampe biplanes.
Has won numerous aerobatic competitions and display awards in the UK.
His career in aviation included the role of Chief Flying Instructor at a number of UK Flying Schools, training commercial pilots and flying instructors, air taxi work throughout Europe plus ferrying aircraft to the Middle East. From 1984 to 1997, as a Flight Standards Officer in the UK Civil Aviation Authority, his responsibilities included the regulation and oversight of all civil Air Displays in the UK.
Was a Flying Instructor Examiner for some 28 years and is a CAA appointed Display Authorisation Evaluator covering a wide range of aircraft.
A man who deserves to cite his occupation as pilot but is too modest to have a wiki page.

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She is a qualified Commercial Pilot, and Qualified Instructor.
She does not fly professionally, bur for the love of it-a hobby.
She flew at tree top height, dodging power lines, in Romania, due to weather.
She flew through Israel, at 15 feet, in formation with another Stearman.
Of course all the above is total fiction.

She claims she is a "qualified commercial pilot and qualified instructor" but the truth is those qualifications are based on a New Zealand licence.Her ratings there are long expired around the year 2000. In any case she did little or no flying instruction.
Could you tell us more about your work as an instructor?

Working as an instructor was something of an anticlimax actually. I find I prefer teaching the ground theory (I specialise in meteorology) but the actual hands on flying is a bit frustrating and irritating. Honestly I don’t really have the temperament to teach people well so I just ended up doing that on a part time basis to keep my hand in – I didn’t really enjoy it.
source https://limitlesspursuits.com/advent...-to-australia/


She does not fly professionally but for the love of it and a hobby?
forgetting to mention the main reason is she cannot as she only has a ppl. However that does not stop claims like wiki entry where her occupation is listed as 'pilot and flying instructor'.

Apart from her two sponsored flights I can find no occupation for TCT in the UK over the last fifteen years.

The low level and bad weather stories seem to get more embellished as time goes on. I fear for those Aussie pilots in Darwin who fly every day over what she claims are the "crocodile infested swamps."

The picture she painted of Australia is not one I recognise from my flying there.
The video in this ITV interview is pure fiction.
British pilot Tracey Curtis Taylor days away from completing 13,000 mile solo flight - ITV News
She is attempting to recreate legendary pilot Amy Johnson's pioneering 13,000 mile solo flight across the globe from England and is expected to land in Sydney over the weekend, after making landfall Down Under on earlier this week.

Speaking to ITV News, Curtis-Taylor said that she is flying twice as far each leg across Australia to make up time lost due to bad weather but she is "relieved beyond words" to finally be Down Under.

Flying for up to eight hours a day on her final leg, she said she was having to stop to regularly refuel - relying on help from aboriginal villages.
In the video she also claimed that she had to travel to local farms to round up jerry cans of avgas.
However the Australian leg of her and Ewalds flight the flight was Darwin, Tennant Creek, Uluru, Woomera, Griffith, RAAF Richmond, and finally to Sydney International Airport.

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Barry Tempest's comment on her facebook page has been removed
So it has, but someone else has posted an interesting post, see how long that lasts. Got a thumbs down from a Pete Giles, whoever he is, but a question has been asked of him, wonder if a reply is forthcoming.
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Here is the removed post from the Bird in a Biplane site.
Brian Abraham You certainly win the prize for getting away thus far with the greatest hoax played on a gullible public in modern times. The greatest con job ever. Solo? Pull the other one. Circumnavigation? Well if you count crossing the major watery bits seated in airline first class. You do fly first class I presume, and not with the plebs in business, or heaven forbid, economy.
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Brian Abraham So what part is incorrect Pete?
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I wish Jay and others good luck with this.

I see TCT's sponsors were able to get their brand name displayed in the UK national press by minor royals (yet again), as witnessed by the images here:

Zara Phillips dodges the rain to judge the best picnic at Burghley Horse Trials | Daily Mail Online

There's one heck of a PR machine to break down ...I do wonder if so much effort has been invested in this "operation" that from the sponsors POV they see it as something that is now too big to fail.

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