UK AIP - AD 2-EGCC-4-1 (Manchester LLR)
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UK AIP - AD 2-EGCC-4-1 (Manchester LLR)
For this weekend, I am planning to transit this LLR.
I have seen the various doc available, but they are all interpretations and, some of them, old. Whereas I have no real issues with the route I do like to be able to get to the bottom of (i.e the AIP entries) exactly what it is and what I can do there, and I am unable to find one of the places which should have this.
In the AIP I find 2 references to the LLR.
1. The first one is in Note 3 to ENR 1.4 ATS AIRSPACE CLASSIFICATION - 2.4 Class D - Controlled Airspace, which says that "The Low Level Route is illustrated at AD 2-EGCC-4-1."
2. EGCC AD 2.22 FLIGHT PROCEDURES - 7 SPECIAL LOW LEVEL ROUTE. This also refers to "The Low Level Route is illustrated at AD 2-EGCC-4-1."
Now, EGCC AD 2.22 FLIGHT PROCEDURES - 7 SPECIAL LOW LEVEL ROUTE gives me all the details I need for flight ... but where is this AD 2-EGCC-4-1?
(NB - this is really a question about understanding and using the UK AIP - not really specifically the Manchester LLR.)
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B.
I have seen the various doc available, but they are all interpretations and, some of them, old. Whereas I have no real issues with the route I do like to be able to get to the bottom of (i.e the AIP entries) exactly what it is and what I can do there, and I am unable to find one of the places which should have this.
In the AIP I find 2 references to the LLR.
1. The first one is in Note 3 to ENR 1.4 ATS AIRSPACE CLASSIFICATION - 2.4 Class D - Controlled Airspace, which says that "The Low Level Route is illustrated at AD 2-EGCC-4-1."
2. EGCC AD 2.22 FLIGHT PROCEDURES - 7 SPECIAL LOW LEVEL ROUTE. This also refers to "The Low Level Route is illustrated at AD 2-EGCC-4-1."
Now, EGCC AD 2.22 FLIGHT PROCEDURES - 7 SPECIAL LOW LEVEL ROUTE gives me all the details I need for flight ... but where is this AD 2-EGCC-4-1?
(NB - this is really a question about understanding and using the UK AIP - not really specifically the Manchester LLR.)
Thanks
B.
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You are quite right that EGCC is Manchester. And that AD 2-EGCC-4-1 would logically refer to the Aerodrome specific entry of Manchester.
In fact, one of the places I listed in my post is within that entry - EGCC AD 2.22 FLIGHT PROCEDURES - 7 SPECIAL LOW LEVEL ROUTE. That entry refers to "The Low Level Route is illustrated at AD 2-EGCC-4-1."
My question arises because the AD 2-EGCC does not have anything called 4-1 in it...
Each entry is numbered 2.1, 2.2 and so on.
Unless the version at Eurocontrol is incomplete...
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In fact, one of the places I listed in my post is within that entry - EGCC AD 2.22 FLIGHT PROCEDURES - 7 SPECIAL LOW LEVEL ROUTE. That entry refers to "The Low Level Route is illustrated at AD 2-EGCC-4-1."
My question arises because the AD 2-EGCC does not have anything called 4-1 in it...
Each entry is numbered 2.1, 2.2 and so on.
Unless the version at Eurocontrol is incomplete...
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Or to find it on the NATS site:
NATS | AIS - Home
Then click AIP, "Aerodrame Index - Specific", then "Manchester", then "AD 2-EGCC-4-1".
NATS | AIS - Home
Then click AIP, "Aerodrame Index - Specific", then "Manchester", then "AD 2-EGCC-4-1".
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Or to find it on the NATS site:
NATS | AIS - Home
Then click AIP, "Aerodrome Index - Specific", then "Manchester", then "AD 2-EGCC-4-1".
NATS | AIS - Home
Then click AIP, "Aerodrome Index - Specific", then "Manchester", then "AD 2-EGCC-4-1".
Following the links as given by FREDACheck gets you to a page which shows "Charts Related to the Airport " and identifies them properly, so that you can find AD 2-EGCC-4-1, which makes sense.
However, following the links from the Eurocontrol site I linked to above, under "EGCC AD 2.24 CHARTS RELATED TO AN AERODROME" the individual charts are not given any meaningful name/identifier. I now see that AD 2-EGCC-4-1 is listed as "Figure 905"...
It's a bit strange in today's day and age to find such disparities. Also, if, from the NATS site you click on the link for "Manchester Aerodrome - Textual Data" you get sent to the Eurocontrol site and shown a different document than if you had searched through the Eurocontrol site to begin with. Truly bizarre.
I had got used to searching through the Eurocontrol site as I thought that would be the way forward in the long run... but will revert to the NATS site...
Thanks guys (& gals?!)
B.
