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Old 16th Aug 2013, 01:48
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On your leg is by far the best.
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Or in your flight bag !
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Agreed..best place is in the flightbag....or on a hot day, in the bin! 'cos it will overheat and not work.
The over reliance on this flakey non-aviation stuff is getting out of hand. Far too much following of a magenta line!
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Flying around your Antipodean skies is a lot easier and probably more fun than than the crowded airspace you used to frequent over here!
The I pad especially with SkyDemon is the greatest thing since GA aviation sliced bread. Used intelligently is a great aid for safety en route and avoiding Airspace infringements.
Nothing flakey about the technology either, being FAA and CAA approved for commercial flight decks out of the box. Instant up to date Notams,met, airspace changes, enroute frequencies, and on IFR flights up to date Jepps as soon as on WiFi. The GPS position very accurate with external bluetooth receiver.
No more bulky books and reams of paper updates.

If you keep it out of direct sunlight in your windscreen it doesn't overheat, and if
you do make that mistake, up and running normally after a short cool off.

Technology has far overtaken the regulation Luddites!!

Yes we have charging facilities, and carry two on IFR trips, in the unlikely event of failure.

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Old 16th Aug 2013, 22:43
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cessnapete ........... I don't deny !

Flying North and approx 25 nm North of Auckland all controlled airspace is no longer a factor - if you stay below 4500' No ATC to worry about, no 'towered' airfields, unlimited visibility ( usually, at least when I fly now !) no requirement to file a flt. plan if you don't want to - tho it is a good idea from a SAR point of view - as ATC don't care where you are in Class G airspace, don't even need a radio, tho' it is a good idea to keep an ear cocked ( as well as eyes ) for other traffic in the same locality.

I'm just being an anti-electronics Old Fart I guess, not being overly delighted with either the Ipad or any touch-screen device, especially in the cockpit of small aeroplanes.

I recently flew with a friend in his Cessna 172 around Southern California, and whereas it was nice to get Notams and Weather on demand on his iPad, I was somewhat anxious by not having a paper chart - he didn't carry one ! - to give me situation awareness, from a navigation point of view I wanted to see our route end to end on a large chart, not just follow a small section of it on a magenta line. True, I could minimise the presentation, by"pinching" it, to see the start and finish, but then I need a 10x magnifying glass to read it !

but .......The aviation world is becoming more concerned at the over-reliance on electronic gadgetry and computer controlled flying. When in doubt fly the beast - if you still can.

I'm mindful of that cartoon showing an airline captain and co-pilot on finals and approaching the threshold of a major airfield, and gazing at a blank computer screen showing the message " Your licence to use this programme has expired, swipe your credit card to purchase further time" !!

It'll happen.

A navigator instructor told me I'd never make a navigator so long as I had a hole in my a***e until I'd been over Berlin with the shells coming through the cockpit as I tried to work out a wind velocity from three steady headings observed through the drift sight - I never had to. Later, I felt similarly about some of my own students as they fought the sextant in turbulence - they never had to, along came INS and now GPS and Ipads.

Horses for Courses, what you are used to I guess.

Best of luck.

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Old 16th Aug 2013, 23:00
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You could say the same about any technology when it was new though Speedbird. I suppose when VOR/DME was introduced there would be those who saw it as white man's magic. The technology is there, you can't uninvent it so embrace it is my take on the matter.

However don't rely on it to the exclusion of everything else.

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