VFR Minima vs PPL(A) priviliges
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VFR Minima vs PPL(A) priviliges
Hello there,
Can someone please shed some light about the title mentioned above.
I seem to be confusing the VFR flight Minima with the privileges of the PPL, which the latter may be more restrictive.
What are the differences between the two?
Does it differ from each member state?
A basic PPL can fly in a minimum flight visibility of 3km, remaining in sight of surface at all times and minimum visibility 10km and in sight of surface on a SFVR clearance in a CTR.
Can someone please shed some light about the title mentioned above.
I seem to be confusing the VFR flight Minima with the privileges of the PPL, which the latter may be more restrictive.
What are the differences between the two?
Does it differ from each member state?
A basic PPL can fly in a minimum flight visibility of 3km, remaining in sight of surface at all times and minimum visibility 10km and in sight of surface on a SFVR clearance in a CTR.
A basic PPL can fly in a minimum flight visibility of 3km,
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So for someone like me with two license's, UK Lifetime PPL & now nice Blue EASA PPL,
can I pick and choose which minima I like? ie: 1.5k or 3k vis etc.
I know where to look for my original licence VFR minima, but cannot find the definitive list/table for EASA, anyone know?
can I pick and choose which minima I like? ie: 1.5k or 3k vis etc.
I know where to look for my original licence VFR minima, but cannot find the definitive list/table for EASA, anyone know?
Regulation 1178/2011
Plain and simple!
Use the licence with the most advantageous privileges.
FCL.205.A PPL(A) — Privileges
(a) The privileges of the holder of a PPL(A) are to act without remuneration as PIC or co-pilot on aeroplanes or TMGs engaged in non-commercial operations.
(b) Notwithstanding the paragraph above, the holder of a PPL(A) with instructor or examiner privileges may receive remuneration for:
(1) the provision of flight instruction for the LAPL(A) or PPL(A);
(2) the conduct of skill tests and proficiency checks for these licences;
(3) the ratings and certificates attached to these licences.
(a) The privileges of the holder of a PPL(A) are to act without remuneration as PIC or co-pilot on aeroplanes or TMGs engaged in non-commercial operations.
(b) Notwithstanding the paragraph above, the holder of a PPL(A) with instructor or examiner privileges may receive remuneration for:
(1) the provision of flight instruction for the LAPL(A) or PPL(A);
(2) the conduct of skill tests and proficiency checks for these licences;
(3) the ratings and certificates attached to these licences.
Use the licence with the most advantageous privileges.
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Thanks Whopity, but I am not after the Rules & Regs regarding my privileges as a pilot, as I know my limitations there.
As said, I want to know the differences for VFR/weather related minima for an EASA licence from a UK Lifetime PPL.
As said, I want to know the differences for VFR/weather related minima for an EASA licence from a UK Lifetime PPL.
As said, I want to know the differences for VFR/weather related minima for an EASA licence from a UK Lifetime PPL.
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3km Vis and in sight of the surface, there is no other difference.
There is no such restriction on EASA licences so their is no longer a 3 km limit for JAA, now EASA licence holders.
I'm confused....
3km Vis and in sight of the surface, there is no other difference.
There is no such restriction on EASA licences so their is no longer a 3 km limit for JAA, now EASA licence holders.
I'm confused....
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It has been my (possibly incorrect) understanding that standard ICAO vis minima of 1.5k apply to EASA licences, and that the original 3k restriction still applies to UK lifetime PPL licences.
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vis minima of 1.5k apply to EASA licences,
At least it will go some way towards standardising the death rate throughout Europe.
D.O.
Last edited by dont overfil; 26th Apr 2013 at 15:21.
If I inadvertantly found myself in 3km viz, I'd be looking for any space to put down on. (Unless it was a rainshower, which I knew I'd soon be out of.)
PS See what at 3km - a cloud/fogbank?
PS See what at 3km - a cloud/fogbank?
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It is worth remembering the VFR minima in Europe are now consistent with ICAO recommendations, with which the UK was historically out of step. This is not to suggest it is necessarily a good idea for any given pilot to operate at the limit of allowed visibility.
