Flying with passengers rule....
3) Fly PIC with an experienced Check Pilot, current on type next to them
4) Fly PIC with a "pilot mate" next to them
4) Fly PIC with a "pilot mate" next to them
5) Fly PIC with a Pax next to them (for a couple of circuits to regain
currency) before leaving on the planned flight.
currency) before leaving on the planned flight.
Flying with an Instuctor is always legal, but if no local instructor has relevant currency?
And how will 3 circuits with an instructor in a PA28/38 or C152/172 make you safe for some Annex2 aircraft?
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but if no local instructor has relevant currency?
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Hi, just to complicate the issue... What if the pilot has never flown that groups aircraft before?
For instance, pilot has hundred of hours on Cessna 152 and wants to fly the group's C172... Its almost the same, but with slightly different speeds.
Or he has been flying a C172 with a carburated IO 320, and wants to use the C172 with the IO 360 fuel injected engine? Are we back to waiting for the 3 T/O + Lds again, before taking paxs? I suspect so, but it makes it difficult if you want to fly several different types.
For instance, pilot has hundred of hours on Cessna 152 and wants to fly the group's C172... Its almost the same, but with slightly different speeds.
Or he has been flying a C172 with a carburated IO 320, and wants to use the C172 with the IO 360 fuel injected engine? Are we back to waiting for the 3 T/O + Lds again, before taking paxs? I suspect so, but it makes it difficult if you want to fly several different types.
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For instance, pilot has hundred of hours on Cessna 152 and wants to fly the group's C172... Its almost the same, but with slightly different speeds.
I would have thought a cursory look at the manual would suffice!
Where have the days gone like I experienced where you were thrown a set of keys and told take that! jumping into an aircraft you had never flown and working it out yourself
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phiggs the requirement is for a particular class or type.
The SEP class covers all the aircraft you have mentioned so the 3 will cover you across the whole class including any complex differences.
What schools or clubs require for currency before renting is a completely seperate issue.
The SEP class covers all the aircraft you have mentioned so the 3 will cover you across the whole class including any complex differences.
What schools or clubs require for currency before renting is a completely seperate issue.
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Flying with an Instuctor is always legal, but if no local instructor has relevant currency?
And how will 3 circuits with an instructor in a PA28/38 or C152/172 make you safe for some Annex2 aircraft?
Given your scenario the purpose of this flight is not to become competent and/or safe in any specific aircraft - it is
only so the Pu/t can regain their currency to legally carry passengers.
As Landings only need to be "carried out" post 17 Sept they don't even
need to be competent and the Instructor can intervene as much as is
required on the controls.
So Pu/t doesn't even need to be familiar/current with whichever aircraft
they are in with the Instructor.
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Bent Nose Wheels
For C-150/152 to C-172
Will result in:
Boing........Boing.......Boing......THUD!
or possibly just:
Boing...THUD!
I have seen too many bent Nose Wheels on C-172s - mainly from pilots with a high number of hours on the C-152 but very few on 172.
I would have thought a cursory look at the manual would suffice!
Boing........Boing.......Boing......THUD!
or possibly just:
Boing...THUD!
I have seen too many bent Nose Wheels on C-172s - mainly from pilots with a high number of hours on the C-152 but very few on 172.
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mainly from pilots with a high number of hours on the C-152 but very few on 172
So Pu/t doesn't even need to befamiliar/current with whichever aircraft
'Cos the 172 is harder to land whenyou're going too fast than the 152. It's just as easy if you're not going toofast, but it depends what habits the 152 driver has got into.
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So pilot does a few acceptable landings with an instructor in a C152, then goes in a Jodel DR1050 or a DH82A?
the purpose of this flight is not to become competent and/or safe in any specific aircraft - it is
only so the Pu/t can regain their currency to legally carry passengers
only so the Pu/t can regain their currency to legally carry passengers
Pilot is now legal to carry passengers. If they want/need checking out they
can now legally act as PIC whilst carrying a Check Pilot as Pax.
If they do not want/need checking out then why didn't they just do a
couple of circuits solo if they want to carry a passenger?