What to do if someone flies dangerously?
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ATC Clearance should only be withheld for traffic reasons unless prevented by HM Government.
SVFR flights are not to hinder IFR flights.
A serviceable transponder is not a requirement for SVFR flight within the London CTR. The absence of a transponder, however, can make life somewhat difficult for the SVFR Controller because of the need to inform several other radar agencies that known, primary-only traffic is about to enter the CTR.
Procedures for Non-Standard Flights within the London CTR are published in the UK IAIP at ENR 1-1-4-1.
Other than for traffic reasons there is absolutely no reason why a microlight should not operate within the London CTR with ATC Clearance. Indeed, in the past there has been a gathering of microlights, including flex-wings, at Heathrow's (old) Block 102. I cannot recall the significance of the occasion.
SVFR flights are not to hinder IFR flights.
A serviceable transponder is not a requirement for SVFR flight within the London CTR. The absence of a transponder, however, can make life somewhat difficult for the SVFR Controller because of the need to inform several other radar agencies that known, primary-only traffic is about to enter the CTR.
Procedures for Non-Standard Flights within the London CTR are published in the UK IAIP at ENR 1-1-4-1.
Other than for traffic reasons there is absolutely no reason why a microlight should not operate within the London CTR with ATC Clearance. Indeed, in the past there has been a gathering of microlights, including flex-wings, at Heathrow's (old) Block 102. I cannot recall the significance of the occasion.
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I don't see any reason why not.
Still subject to low flying rules of course.
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With respect, I think you've missed the point. The OP has already made it perfectly plain in the thread title and subsequently in his post #35:
...that he was asking advice!
I don't think he said he was a curtain twitcher waiting to pounce on unsuspecting aviators, nor that he had any intention of reporting anybody or doing anything that might damage GA. He's not 'snooping', nor has he suggested that he's 'telling on every perceived misdemeanour'. He noticed something and asked what the PPRuNe community would do if it saw someone flying dangerously.
Whether this microlight chap was in the CTR/without or without permission/in breach of Rule 5/flying dangerously is not clear. However, if I saw someone wilfully flying dangerously i.e. risking injury or death to himself or others, then he deserves a good talking to at best, or reporting to the authorities at worst (or both). I'd expect exactly the same from any of my peers. Why protect an idiot whose dangerous behaviour is damaging GA?!
With respect, I think you've missed the point. The OP has already made it perfectly plain in the thread title and subsequently in his post #35:
Let's be clear here, I was asking what your thoughts are.
I don't think he said he was a curtain twitcher waiting to pounce on unsuspecting aviators, nor that he had any intention of reporting anybody or doing anything that might damage GA. He's not 'snooping', nor has he suggested that he's 'telling on every perceived misdemeanour'. He noticed something and asked what the PPRuNe community would do if it saw someone flying dangerously.
Whether this microlight chap was in the CTR/without or without permission/in breach of Rule 5/flying dangerously is not clear. However, if I saw someone wilfully flying dangerously i.e. risking injury or death to himself or others, then he deserves a good talking to at best, or reporting to the authorities at worst (or both). I'd expect exactly the same from any of my peers. Why protect an idiot whose dangerous behaviour is damaging GA?!
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Sorry for the delay in responding, been out enjoying myself in Cornwall!
Toptobottom...thanks, and yes, you are spot on. I can see that others seem to think what I was posting was a 'hey look at someone doing something wrong I have to report you right now' kind of message, but I wasn't, as you correctly noted.
I was mostly interested in the responses, and what peoples views are. Personally, I think that the approach of 'leave well alone and shout at anyone who even looks like they might be interfering with my freedoms' tends to mean that issues get left too late to actually intervene, which is a shame.
Also, to those of you who have had a nice old go at me for being inexperienced, cos I am still learning, can I just note that perhaps that was why I was asking.
Anyhow, I get it now. How's this as a summary
- Keep my eyes open,
- don't jump to conclusions just because it looks wrong
- if you are sure something is wrong, speak to the person about it
Oh yes, and...
- assume that anyone who has less years experience than you must be wrong, so tell them so....a lot (sorry, couldn't help myself)
Thanks to all who helped...looking forwards to joining the ranks of qualified some day soon (well, within the next few years!!!)
Toptobottom...thanks, and yes, you are spot on. I can see that others seem to think what I was posting was a 'hey look at someone doing something wrong I have to report you right now' kind of message, but I wasn't, as you correctly noted.
I was mostly interested in the responses, and what peoples views are. Personally, I think that the approach of 'leave well alone and shout at anyone who even looks like they might be interfering with my freedoms' tends to mean that issues get left too late to actually intervene, which is a shame.
Also, to those of you who have had a nice old go at me for being inexperienced, cos I am still learning, can I just note that perhaps that was why I was asking.
Anyhow, I get it now. How's this as a summary
- Keep my eyes open,
- don't jump to conclusions just because it looks wrong
- if you are sure something is wrong, speak to the person about it
Oh yes, and...
- assume that anyone who has less years experience than you must be wrong, so tell them so....a lot (sorry, couldn't help myself)
Thanks to all who helped...looking forwards to joining the ranks of qualified some day soon (well, within the next few years!!!)
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Oh yes, and...
- assume that anyone who has less years experience than you must be wrong, so tell them so....a lot (sorry, couldn't help myself)
- assume that anyone who has less years experience than you must be wrong, so tell them so....a lot (sorry, couldn't help myself)
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...less years experience...
That's another thing you'll have to get used to - pedantic k***heads just waiting to correct your English all the time
. Sorry, I just couldn't resist it!
