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The thing that's not clear to me is whether I need two seperate licences or not? I currently fly on an NPPL with a Microlight and SLMG rating. It 'appears' that I can't fly the SLMG on the NPPL after 2015 and that I won't be able to fly the microlight on the LAPL? I can (presumably) do the (higher standard?) LAPL medical to cover both - but do I really need two licences and with no cross-crediting between them to maintain currency?
When is the first date you can do a LAPL medical?
The thing that's not clear to me is whether I need two seperate licences or not?
EDIT: I'm now advised that a LAPL(A) with aeroplane endorsement may be used to fly Microlights, provided that the pilot has received differences training. But flight time in Microlights will not count towards the requirements needed to maintain LAPL(A) validity. However, as far as I can ascertain, it probably won't be acceptable to use a LAPL(A) restricted to TMGs for Microlight flying.
What utter nonsense this whole MDM032 / LAPL bolleaux has proved to be - as I warned it would!
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I'm now advised that a LAPL(A) with aeroplane endorsement may be used to fly Microlights, provided that the pilot has received differences training.
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A GP who issues a LAPL medical certificate for the first time has to notify the CAA via a web based registration process. Registration is a one-off process and does not have to be repeated subsequently irrespective of the number of pilot assessments undertaken.
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Oh my goodness!!! I am rather confused by this all.
I have a JAR PPL vaild until Oct 13, a Class 2 valid until 2017 and I am currently doing some Microlight (fixed) differences training so that I can rent super cheaply and have some cheap thrills (no gags please (said the bishop..etc etc)).
The cunning plan was to do a simple send off of the JAR to the NPPL people and get a NPPL SSEA and then in a month or so do the microlight GST (having done some cheap consolidation in the meantime) and then add this rating to the NPPL. I would therefore have two ratings on one NPPL - the requirement to keep the SSEA woud only be one hour every 12 months as long as I keep the NPPL valid doing the microlight stuff. I think that is right...my head is spinning. I would let the JAR PPL lapse eventually as too expensive to keep current when versus the above cunning plan.
HOWEVER!! Given the new LAPL, should I forget the NPPL and devise a new more cunning, cunning plan?
Any advice? (apart from asprin)...
Thanks
I have a JAR PPL vaild until Oct 13, a Class 2 valid until 2017 and I am currently doing some Microlight (fixed) differences training so that I can rent super cheaply and have some cheap thrills (no gags please (said the bishop..etc etc)).
The cunning plan was to do a simple send off of the JAR to the NPPL people and get a NPPL SSEA and then in a month or so do the microlight GST (having done some cheap consolidation in the meantime) and then add this rating to the NPPL. I would therefore have two ratings on one NPPL - the requirement to keep the SSEA woud only be one hour every 12 months as long as I keep the NPPL valid doing the microlight stuff. I think that is right...my head is spinning. I would let the JAR PPL lapse eventually as too expensive to keep current when versus the above cunning plan.
HOWEVER!! Given the new LAPL, should I forget the NPPL and devise a new more cunning, cunning plan?
Any advice? (apart from asprin)...
Thanks
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Whilst we are on the topic of all this LAPL nonsense and a few people seem to have some ideas about it I thought I would jump in with a question also. Did a New Zealand ICAO PPL 3 years ago and havent flown since, now wanting to fly again in the UK, where I live. Question is do I do the PPL or try and get my head around trying to get a LAPL, I believe the Annual requirements are less for the LAPL? 12 hrs in 24 months, but will still need to do the 7 exams for either licence?
Medicals are slightly different but not really an issue as a Class 2 wont break the bank too much although rather not have to pay it! Also as previously mentioned I would need to do 10 hrs Solo after being issued the LAPL before taking PAX so thats another £1200 or whatever, the LAPL doesn't look that appealing other than the Annual requirements. What happens if I don't do the 12hrs per annum to keep a PPL current? Another flight test etc or a Check ride? Have tried to read the lovely CAP 804 document to find the answers but some of it is clear as mud! Thanks for any help
Medicals are slightly different but not really an issue as a Class 2 wont break the bank too much although rather not have to pay it! Also as previously mentioned I would need to do 10 hrs Solo after being issued the LAPL before taking PAX so thats another £1200 or whatever, the LAPL doesn't look that appealing other than the Annual requirements. What happens if I don't do the 12hrs per annum to keep a PPL current? Another flight test etc or a Check ride? Have tried to read the lovely CAP 804 document to find the answers but some of it is clear as mud! Thanks for any help
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Flip Flop! I have just spent the last 2 hours trying to make sense of CAP804. Eye strain, headache and bad temper have set in.
As far as I can work out my current JAR PPL(A) is now magically an EASA PPL(A) which, on expiry in 2016 will be updated in the new format of EASA and will be never expiring. Current SEP rating vailidity requirements remain the same for an EASA PPL(A) as a JAR PPL(A).
Can someone please tell me what the advantage of the EASA PPL(A) is over a EASA LAPL? For someone flying a PA28-161 for example? The validity requirment for an LAPL seems much easier then a PPL(A), just 12 hours over 24 months and 1 flight with an instructor.
Which makes me think..How do you get an EASA LAPL when you already have (apparently) an EASA PPL(A)?
If I want to fly microlights and SEP then sending off for a NPPL seems to make sense and then just have both ratings, do one hour on one and 12 on the other etc etc BUT from April 2015 if I want to fly an EASA aircraft (PA28 for eg) then I can't without an EASA License!
Hey ho...time for a stiff drink and bed!
As far as I can work out my current JAR PPL(A) is now magically an EASA PPL(A) which, on expiry in 2016 will be updated in the new format of EASA and will be never expiring. Current SEP rating vailidity requirements remain the same for an EASA PPL(A) as a JAR PPL(A).
Can someone please tell me what the advantage of the EASA PPL(A) is over a EASA LAPL? For someone flying a PA28-161 for example? The validity requirment for an LAPL seems much easier then a PPL(A), just 12 hours over 24 months and 1 flight with an instructor.
Which makes me think..How do you get an EASA LAPL when you already have (apparently) an EASA PPL(A)?
If I want to fly microlights and SEP then sending off for a NPPL seems to make sense and then just have both ratings, do one hour on one and 12 on the other etc etc BUT from April 2015 if I want to fly an EASA aircraft (PA28 for eg) then I can't without an EASA License!
Hey ho...time for a stiff drink and bed!
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I'm now advised that a LAPL(A) with aeroplane endorsement may be used to fly Microlights, provided that the pilot has received differences training. But flight time in Microlights will not count towards the requirements needed to maintain LAPL(A) validity
