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The identity of the Taylorcraft has now been amended (again) on the ASN web site. According to this web site details were confirmed on the Flyer forum.
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Pilot was the aircraft's part owner Martin Hickin.
Why this couldn't have been posted 30 posts back to save all the speculation and people worrying seeing wrong registrations appearing God only knows.
Pilot was the aircraft's part owner Martin Hickin.
Why this couldn't have been posted 30 posts back to save all the speculation and people worrying seeing wrong registrations appearing God only knows.
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Hear Hear!!
Well-done G-BHEN, thank-you.
We all have friends who fly these types of aircraft and we are all desperate to know if it is one of our mates that has "bought it".
OF COURSE the families have a right to be told first, AND have time to grieve etc, but this self righteous pussyfooting around the facts days after the incident benefits no-one.
Doubtless (now) there will be many nice comments posted by poor Martin's mates, and these will be of great comfort to those he left behind.
Jez.
Well-done G-BHEN, thank-you.
We all have friends who fly these types of aircraft and we are all desperate to know if it is one of our mates that has "bought it".
OF COURSE the families have a right to be told first, AND have time to grieve etc, but this self righteous pussyfooting around the facts days after the incident benefits no-one.
Doubtless (now) there will be many nice comments posted by poor Martin's mates, and these will be of great comfort to those he left behind.
Jez.
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Process of elimination, it "might" be this one ?
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...c8SfFrIiVsJmxg
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...c8SfFrIiVsJmxg
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There does seem to be a difficulty in seeing another aircraft either in front/below or above/behind you in certain conditions. On a fairly busy flying day at Leicester ( but it could have been anywhere) a few months ago, two ships called "Finals" on 28 not quite simultaneously. Luckily one heard the other and announced he would hold his altitude (stating what it was) and left the other to react accordingly. There was no airprox, no collision and in the event no incident. I was left wondering if the transmissions had actually blocked out each other out, whether we would have been discussing then what sadly we have been doing this week.
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The Avidyne 600 does not do that
I'm not saying it's not incredibly useful. Several times, especially in the South of England when I've been low level in something a lot faster than average it has alerted me to traffic a lot earlier than I would have seen it, if I ever would have.
if you want to see how to stop all of the mis-information and speculation when an accident has occurred see
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Unfortunately there is no way to guarantee it doesn't, or won't. TCAS cannot be used for Azimuth full stop. For such an expensive piece of kit it's a shame, but the only guaranteed plane of avoidance is vertical.
.The vertical plane of avoidance isn't "guaranteed" either because it relies on the mode C transponder return from the other aircraft being accurate. From experience, some aren't! Many other light aircraft don't put out a mode C return, in any case.
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I agree, but based on a lot of hours behind Avidyne TCAS it is surprsingly accurate in both - in fact I cant think of an occasion where the aircraft was seen and not exactly where predicted to be (of course there were more than a few never seen as well 
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Fuji, Yes I would largely agree. But now you've knocked the lid off the box. Self appointed armchair experts who frequent these parts (and have probably never even seen a TCAS1 in operation) will undoubtedly jump in and argue black and blue that under no circumstances must you pay any attention to TCAS because apparently it distracts your lookout.
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All very sad, I so hope that the families get good support and care after this terrible incident.
As someone asked.
The other aircraft involved was Pitts S-2C G-IICI by the way as seen at AAIB on Wednesday on back of a lorry outside the hangar.
Regards
Mark
As someone asked.
The other aircraft involved was Pitts S-2C G-IICI by the way as seen at AAIB on Wednesday on back of a lorry outside the hangar.
Regards
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I have flown in TCAS (Ryan/Avidyne 600 usually) equipped planes and the system was pretty damn good.
The biggest limitation by far is the low Mode C usage in GA, but if you fly above 1999ft you are above most of the "civil liberties" traffic
I have a TCAS capable MFD (KMD550) but taking the plane practically to bits to install the antennae is the biggest drawback.
And then I say to myself.... why spend the £10-15k when flying above 1999ft gets me above most traffic
It is true that in big jet ops they are required to avoid vertically only, but that is an ICAO standard which is why they do it. The resolution system is rather crude and works only in the vertical. One day, about 100 years from now, they will update the software to make the mutual avoidance algorithm work in the horizontal plane, but it will be considerably more complicated whereas purely-vertical resolution is trivial (between just two aircraft.... it looks quite interesting if somebody does a vertical bust in a holding stack and they all get RAs ).
The biggest limitation by far is the low Mode C usage in GA, but if you fly above 1999ft you are above most of the "civil liberties" traffic
I have a TCAS capable MFD (KMD550) but taking the plane practically to bits to install the antennae is the biggest drawback.
And then I say to myself.... why spend the £10-15k when flying above 1999ft gets me above most traffic
It is true that in big jet ops they are required to avoid vertically only, but that is an ICAO standard which is why they do it. The resolution system is rather crude and works only in the vertical. One day, about 100 years from now, they will update the software to make the mutual avoidance algorithm work in the horizontal plane, but it will be considerably more complicated whereas purely-vertical resolution is trivial (between just two aircraft.... it looks quite interesting if somebody does a vertical bust in a holding stack and they all get RAs
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I have a TCAS capable MFD (KMD550) but taking the plane practically to bits to install the antennae is the biggest drawback.
One unresolved problem with TCAS1 in Class G is when encountering another similarly equipped aircraft and you both take the same avoiding action by going to the same altitude.... it can get quite exciting.
The only hope is that both aircraft are receiving a service from the same radar unit so some communication and co-ordination can be made in good time. Unfortunately, in these gloomy days of airfield closures, both mil and civvy, LARS coverage is forever reducing.