PA28 ditched off Guernsey
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PA28 ditched off Guernsey
BBC News - Aircraft ditches in English Channel
Breaking on the BBC now, hope the two onboard are all right.
Edit: BBC now saying that it was flying in from Lee-on-Solent, owned by Alderney Flying Training.
Breaking on the BBC now, hope the two onboard are all right.
Edit: BBC now saying that it was flying in from Lee-on-Solent, owned by Alderney Flying Training.
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Interesting day to decide to go flying. The tafs have been crap all day.
With respect Mr Paul, the TAFs weren't that bad. We don't know about the ratings held by the pilot or the equipment on board the aircraft. I would have happily made that journey today, with an option to divert to Bournemouth or Guernsey.
With respect Mr Paul, the TAFs weren't that bad. We don't know about the ratings held by the pilot or the equipment on board the aircraft. I would have happily made that journey today, with an option to divert to Bournemouth or Guernsey.
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The following have been engaged in the search effort:
- Alderney lifeboat
- Guernsey lifeboat
- Mona Rigolet (French rescue vessel)
- Our Miranda (fishing vessel)
- Abeille Liberte (large French tug)
- Jork Rider (Russian merchant ship)
- MFV Kerrie Marie (fishing boat)
- HMS Tyne
- 2x SAR helicopters
- Lion's Pride (Channel Islands Air Search aircraft)
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A woman has been air lifted to hospital having been found in a raft, the search continues for the other occupant.
BBC News - Aircraft ditches in English Channel
BBC News - Aircraft ditches in English Channel
TAFs don't mean much when you're in the f******g water in November ffs
Why, just why, do these events bring out the worst in Pprune or Flyer?
It shows Private Pilots in such a bad light.
Smudger, I suggest you look at the recent Red Arrows thread and you will see 8 pages and 159 posts to date. Read it. Thats how it should be done.
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...-merged-8.html
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So sorry fo Alderney and the family
My inlaws live in Alderney and I fly to visit regulary so this very sad accident is of particular interest and my love / hate for the news is fueled, wanting to hear real facts quickly, not miss facts from speculaltion and at the moment there seems to be so little facts. Unusual to be south of the island when flying from the mainland? Nothing clear of the actual ditching point, wx appears to have been perfectly flyable. Wish I had found it yesterday but Marine Traffic - AIS | Digimap Ltd, Guernsey the French tug named earlier, the light blue tag was / now searching some 30/40 miles NNW of Guernsey
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Obviously very strong currents in the CI and now hours later but water is 15 degrees, you don't get much warmer than that but without a survival suit on it looks very sad for him, the poor poor lady and family , but yes everything still crossed here.
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The BBC map is wrong. The actual crash site is thought to have been about 20 miles WSW of Alderney. This would be an odd course from Lee-on-Solent but last night's activities indicate this position. Fingers crossed but comments about him not leaving the aircraft are worrying 
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The position (from AIS) of HMS Tyne yesterday afternoon was more like 20nm N of Alderney, This would be just outside the Class A airway to Ortac and an entirely logical place to be if one was crossing at a decent height without entering the airway.
Edited again to add - from reading the "other" side seems the search is very widespread. I think the confusion over where the aircraft was will continue for some time and we're unlikely to get much more closer than guesswork for a while.
Edited again to add - from reading the "other" side seems the search is very widespread. I think the confusion over where the aircraft was will continue for some time and we're unlikely to get much more closer than guesswork for a while.
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Currents can be as strong as 10 kts around the Casquettes lighthouse. The coastguard have a program that they put in the initial position and it calculates a search area based upon tides and winds etc.
Someone mentioned that it might be considered an odd place to ditch, but if you have no option...... but unfortunately even in 15C water temps, time of survival is not that long unless you have a life raft and immersion suit.
Someone mentioned that it might be considered an odd place to ditch, but if you have no option...... but unfortunately even in 15C water temps, time of survival is not that long unless you have a life raft and immersion suit.