Olympic Airpsace Restrictions
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The cynic in me says that the olympics are just an excuse so that the restrictions can be put in place. They may be relaxed but won't be put back to they way things were.
From my limited dealings with SB on the subject of aviation there is quite a large feeling that they want more control or more information about what private flights are up to. They seem not to bothered about IFR airways flights because there is a record of what you have been up to. But they really don't like the fact that a private flight can fire up and dissappear without anyone knowing where they are going or who and what they have onboard and not talk to anyone.
We even had a very excited SB Sgt turn up with instrument plates they had found on a forgien reg private aircraft wanting to know what they were. He was quite shocked to find out you could download them off the web. He wanted to confiscate my Luchars, Conningsby,Valley,Kinloss, Lossie and Marham plates under the anti terrorism act because they were mil fields and air defense bases. He was quite put out when I said it would be fun in court because the RAF sells them to anyone that phones up with a credit card for 16 quid a set if you phone this number. I might add he did phone the number and wasn't very happy with what the lady at the other end said to him.
From my limited dealings with SB on the subject of aviation there is quite a large feeling that they want more control or more information about what private flights are up to. They seem not to bothered about IFR airways flights because there is a record of what you have been up to. But they really don't like the fact that a private flight can fire up and dissappear without anyone knowing where they are going or who and what they have onboard and not talk to anyone.
We even had a very excited SB Sgt turn up with instrument plates they had found on a forgien reg private aircraft wanting to know what they were. He was quite shocked to find out you could download them off the web. He wanted to confiscate my Luchars, Conningsby,Valley,Kinloss, Lossie and Marham plates under the anti terrorism act because they were mil fields and air defense bases. He was quite put out when I said it would be fun in court because the RAF sells them to anyone that phones up with a credit card for 16 quid a set if you phone this number. I might add he did phone the number and wasn't very happy with what the lady at the other end said to him.
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Yes, the restrictions on GA area going to be a nuisance.
But the disruption to surface traffic, both private and public, is going to be appalling over the whole of central and east London. Plus the risk of terrorist action anywhere in the area.
The air restrictions won't affect me because I'm going to stay well clear of London for the entire period
But the disruption to surface traffic, both private and public, is going to be appalling over the whole of central and east London. Plus the risk of terrorist action anywhere in the area.
The air restrictions won't affect me because I'm going to stay well clear of London for the entire period
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We even had a very excited SB Sgt turn up with instrument plates they had found on a forgien reg private aircraft wanting to know what they were. He was quite shocked to find out you could download them off the web. He wanted to confiscate my Luchars, Conningsby,Valley,Kinloss, Lossie and Marham plates under the anti terrorism act because they were mil fields and air defense bases. He was quite put out when I said it would be fun in court because the RAF sells them to anyone that phones up with a credit card for 16 quid a set if you phone this number. I might add he did phone the number and wasn't very happy with what the lady at the other end said to him.
Something like that ought to get elevated all the way to the top.
Mind you, most professions are self selecting on the primary personality traits, and the "control other people" professions show this most strongly
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they really don't like the fact that a private flight can fire up and dissappear without anyone knowing where they are going or who and what they have onboard and not talk to anyone.
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Nah it was sorted.
I am not suprised he was concerned really. You wouldn't really expect to have someone out of the blue to show you plans for the UK's mil QRA bases in a nice little printed book. And if you know jack about aviation......
They should maybe though have a central information point though so that they don't look complete tubes and they have a country wide policy on such matters. From what I can tell each force has its own policy with different levels of involvement and different interpretations of the act.
To be fair our local ones arn't a problem, if anything is suspicious they get informed, they come and have a chat occasionally all quite friendly and the way it should be really. There boss has proberly more experence than most of terrorists, comes across as a hard but fair copper who you would be advised not to take the wee out of. I have no complaints to be honest.
I am not suprised he was concerned really. You wouldn't really expect to have someone out of the blue to show you plans for the UK's mil QRA bases in a nice little printed book. And if you know jack about aviation......
They should maybe though have a central information point though so that they don't look complete tubes and they have a country wide policy on such matters. From what I can tell each force has its own policy with different levels of involvement and different interpretations of the act.
To be fair our local ones arn't a problem, if anything is suspicious they get informed, they come and have a chat occasionally all quite friendly and the way it should be really. There boss has proberly more experence than most of terrorists, comes across as a hard but fair copper who you would be advised not to take the wee out of. I have no complaints to be honest.
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Mad Jock you might be amused by one here. Told we would arrive back at our own private strip at "about 1800hrs" I was informed "You must not land until I arrive". So I says 1) how will I know you have arrived? 2) if you are late what happens when I run out of fuel? etc etc. Up steps Sgt. who says to youngster "Go away and when you have learned we are here to serve, you may go outside once more" Well that was the gist of what he said anyway. Job done everyone happy
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Mad Jock
Any chance of posting that number? I've been trying to find out how to get info/plates for Benson.
Actually, I'll take my compensation by repositioning the fleet there for the duration please Mr Cameron - FOC of course.
Any chance of posting that number? I've been trying to find out how to get info/plates for Benson.
Actually, I'll take my compensation by repositioning the fleet there for the duration please Mr Cameron - FOC of course.
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Word about a proposed legal challenge and associated fighting fund here:
http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic....9015&start=285
http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic....9015&start=285
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You can't buy them as a one off they make you take the update service through the AIDU.
One of the lads got his off an Aerad subscription but its a bit of pot luck which set has which mil airfields.
They do them as separates.
AERAD Aerodrome Booklet : AERAD - Airplan Flight Equipment
And finally found a link https://www.aidu.mod.uk
One of the lads got his off an Aerad subscription but its a bit of pot luck which set has which mil airfields.
They do them as separates.
AERAD Aerodrome Booklet : AERAD - Airplan Flight Equipment
And finally found a link https://www.aidu.mod.uk
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
See: https://www.aidu.mod.uk/Milflip/prod...launch_aip.htm and look under 'Aerodromes' - all details for Benson, including approach charts, are included.
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Not sure, m_j and I can't recall who gave me the link.
I think that it went public again after the oh-so secret squirrel low flying stuff was moved elsewhere.
I think that it went public again after the oh-so secret squirrel low flying stuff was moved elsewhere.
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From: Apa, apo ndi kulikonse!
From the BBC website:
Should have bought British.
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I'll be working on my black rubberised coating for the PA28 then....
Just a quick poll, what would happen if you entered this zone Squawking 1200 and bimbling along at 2000ft? would they intercept you? monitor your progress. I'm sure i can guess what the CAA would do to you.
Just a quick poll, what would happen if you entered this zone Squawking 1200 and bimbling along at 2000ft? would they intercept you? monitor your progress. I'm sure i can guess what the CAA would do to you.
1200 is autonomous fighter operations in the UK (but VFR conspicuity in many other countries).
This has embarrassed the occasional pilot just back from doing their licence in the USA !
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