what do u thing
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Proof-reading
All those e-mails we have all sent and 500ths of a millisecond later either wish we hadn't sent or at least re-read before hitting the button.
Someone once said "leave it 'till the next day and read again before sending."
Very wise.
Trouble is we've become bl**dy robots on auto-reflex.
Lister
Someone once said "leave it 'till the next day and read again before sending."
Very wise.
Trouble is we've become bl**dy robots on auto-reflex.
Lister
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If his username was meant to start 'pilot' that is misspelt as well...
There is a wondrous wee button on the 'Reply to Thread' page which is a spell checker, and there is always 'edit' if we notice typos etc. just too late.
There is a wondrous wee button on the 'Reply to Thread' page which is a spell checker, and there is always 'edit' if we notice typos etc. just too late.
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Auto reflex should include the use of capital letters & the ocasional comma or full stop.
fonetextspeak seems to be the thing now, hate the bloody stuff.
if'n yr gonna be a pilot, geddagrip n lurn yasell ta riterite, rite?
"What do u thing?? THINK for Crist's sake!
fonetextspeak seems to be the thing now, hate the bloody stuff.
if'n yr gonna be a pilot, geddagrip n lurn yasell ta riterite, rite?
"What do u thing?? THINK for Crist's sake!
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Unless you know someone in the industry and can get reccomended, or are prepared to buy the Jet (I said Jet, not type rating) then forget it. Rich types don't take too well to being flown around by people with less than 1000hrs. ish.
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There is always the possibility that he may have another language as his primary and this is his second or third language.
Remember chaps (and chapesses!) that this forum isn't restricted to ICAO English level 6 holders.
The use of singular rather than plural and incorrect tense is indicative of non-native English.
Remember chaps (and chapesses!) that this forum isn't restricted to ICAO English level 6 holders.
The use of singular rather than plural and incorrect tense is indicative of non-native English.
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
...and there may also be the possibility that "he" may be female?? 
If you're going to be PC, do it properly please 
Cheers
Whirls
If you're going to be PC, do it properly please Cheers
Whirls
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Any further genuine answers to the OP would be greatly appreciated by some reading who can spell (myself included). I've only counted one response so far.
(this isn't a spelling forum either guys, I know it's frustrating but lighten up a little, the OP might only be a kid)
(this isn't a spelling forum either guys, I know it's frustrating but lighten up a little, the OP might only be a kid)
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
Genuine answers? I'd love to give a genuine answer if the original post didn't read as though the thread starter thought, that with a 50 hour PPL, he can go and fly a bizjet. He or she is not clear whether they mean commercially or for a living.
If that IS what the OP meant, then x933 answered the question although it should be added that the minimum of a CPL/IR would be required by the rich types.
If the OP meant something else, then I'm afraid I don't what he meant. That is why people need to be more conscientious when they write.
Cheers
Whirls
I would hope that the OP is at least 16. I don't call that being "a kid".
If that IS what the OP meant, then x933 answered the question although it should be added that the minimum of a CPL/IR would be required by the rich types.
If the OP meant something else, then I'm afraid I don't what he meant. That is why people need to be more conscientious when they write.
Cheers
Whirls
this isn't a spelling forum either guys, I know it's frustrating but lighten up a little, the OP might only be a kid
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Considering the possiblilty that the post is honestly intended, I will offer the following advice: Meek, anyone I can imagine, who can afford to pay someone else to fly their aircraft, in particular, a jet, will be looking for a pilot, with not only considerable experience, but a demonstrated eagerness to do their best all the time.
Every time we do something, we should be doing our best for its own sake. Every time we do anything, it's our opportunity to try to do better than we did the previous time, or to learn a new skill. If "doing something" includes the opportunity to check, or proof read, it before actually commiting it, that is certainly worthwhile. Imagine how nice t would be to "proof read" and correct our landings before that were actually accomplished! (Oh, yeah, I guess some pilots do, as I have seen three or four landings during one pass down the runway).
Meek, there is a lot of wisdom here, and it's free! Except the cost to you is demonstrating with your best effort that you appreciate the effort of those who would reply. It is the same as you would demonstrate your best effort if the guy with the jet said you you "Ok take a seat, and lets see how you fly this plane". If your flying of the aircraft were as casual as the writing of your question the jet owner would think.... (well, I'll let you fill that in...). It's not only the skill that someone wants to see, but the effort. The most skilled pilot ever, won't impress the boss if he is still careless.
I once hired a person straight off PPRuNe, without having met her, just because of how well she wrote (and English was very certainly not her first language). I was very happy with my choice, and in time, she moved on to an even better job than I could offer her.
Meek, show us that you care to do your best... what ever the task!
Every time we do something, we should be doing our best for its own sake. Every time we do anything, it's our opportunity to try to do better than we did the previous time, or to learn a new skill. If "doing something" includes the opportunity to check, or proof read, it before actually commiting it, that is certainly worthwhile. Imagine how nice t would be to "proof read" and correct our landings before that were actually accomplished! (Oh, yeah, I guess some pilots do, as I have seen three or four landings during one pass down the runway).
Meek, there is a lot of wisdom here, and it's free! Except the cost to you is demonstrating with your best effort that you appreciate the effort of those who would reply. It is the same as you would demonstrate your best effort if the guy with the jet said you you "Ok take a seat, and lets see how you fly this plane". If your flying of the aircraft were as casual as the writing of your question the jet owner would think.... (well, I'll let you fill that in...). It's not only the skill that someone wants to see, but the effort. The most skilled pilot ever, won't impress the boss if he is still careless.
I once hired a person straight off PPRuNe, without having met her, just because of how well she wrote (and English was very certainly not her first language). I was very happy with my choice, and in time, she moved on to an even better job than I could offer her.
Meek, show us that you care to do your best... what ever the task!
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From: Timbuktoo
Pilot DAR, I agree with your sentiments, however I am reluctant to criticise others use of the English language as I know my own failings.
I would, however suggest you take your own advice and proof read your last post.
I would, however suggest you take your own advice and proof read your last post.
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I have not ever claimed to be perfect, nor required perfection of others, or things to be error free, just the best effort a person can manage under the circumstances. If Meek's post is a representation of his/her best effort, so be it, they can take the satisfaction from it, which they feel they deserve. Others are entitled to a different view, and perhaps Meek would appreciate insight to that view...
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From: Timbuktoo
Pilot DAR, I do not have a different view, indeed I don't consider the post worthy of the time to form a reply. I agree that the OP's post is far from a few errors and does demonstrate a total lack of care and I too would, rightly or wrongly, take the view this is representative of an attitude. However I do not accept that your post is your best effort. There are a couple of minor errors which I accept are an oversight, however given they are in a post advising another to proof read I thought them rather amusing and was simply poking some fun.
As I said in any other post they would not be worthy of comment. Please don't deny me a smile this cold, if sunny, February afternoon. Come on, I can't believe the above does not bring a smile to your face too?
Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
Imagine how nice t would be to "proof read" and correct our landings before that were actually accomplished!
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
I suspect the "i"t typo is an example of well-placed irony or maybe a Freudian slip?
However, spelling and grammar to one side, what concerns me is that the OP is near the end of his or her PPL and doesn't know the answer.
I know that there are no stupid questions in aviation but there is also an exception to the rule.
Cheers
Whirls
However, spelling and grammar to one side, what concerns me is that the OP is near the end of his or her PPL and doesn't know the answer.
I know that there are no stupid questions in aviation but there is also an exception to the rule.
Cheers
Whirls
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From: Timbuktoo
[QUOTE=Whirlygig][I suspect the "i"t typo is an example of well-placed irony or maybe a Freudian slip?/QUOTE]
Indeed whirls, although PilotDAR's errors occur in a sentence in which he refers to proof reading I don't believe it is as a result of well placed irony.
Is it really that surprising that a PPL student, who at 27 years of age (if indeed that is correct), has come through school, possibly further education and a significant part of life without understanding the basics of English, can be near completing training without knowing the answer to the questions posed? I dread to think how well the pre flight is carried out? The mind boggles!
Indeed whirls, although PilotDAR's errors occur in a sentence in which he refers to proof reading I don't believe it is as a result of well placed irony.
Is it really that surprising that a PPL student, who at 27 years of age (if indeed that is correct), has come through school, possibly further education and a significant part of life without understanding the basics of English, can be near completing training without knowing the answer to the questions posed? I dread to think how well the pre flight is carried out? The mind boggles!