Is a CRI a "qualified Flying Instructor" ?
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Is a CRI a "qualified Flying Instructor" ?
Just checking because our insurance states:
This policy also covers any Qualified Flying Instructor, Assistant Flying Instructor, or any Airworthiness authority approved pilot.
Thanks....
This policy also covers any Qualified Flying Instructor, Assistant Flying Instructor, or any Airworthiness authority approved pilot.
Thanks....
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Yes, but not a Qualified FLYING Instructor. That is he can't teach someone (ie unlicensed) to fly, only give instruction to licensed pilots within his class rating privileges
I can quite categorically assure you that a Class Rating Instructor with regard to Als original question is a 'Qualified Flying Instructor' and is recognised accordingly by the insurance companies.
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Slight thread drift, but possibly useful info..
I am booked on a CRI course for the purpose of checking out / revalidating SEP ratings of group members of our aircraft, and to hopefully start "putting something back" into the system. Someone also told me that "gaining a CRI will lower your insurance premiums". So I phoned Traffords and asked, the reply was negative.
However, as you are taught to instruct (25 hours theory on instruction) on the CRI course, and have to pass a instructional skills test with a instructor examiner, I am of the understanding it is very much an instructor qualification.
I am booked on a CRI course for the purpose of checking out / revalidating SEP ratings of group members of our aircraft, and to hopefully start "putting something back" into the system. Someone also told me that "gaining a CRI will lower your insurance premiums". So I phoned Traffords and asked, the reply was negative.
However, as you are taught to instruct (25 hours theory on instruction) on the CRI course, and have to pass a instructional skills test with a instructor examiner, I am of the understanding it is very much an instructor qualification.
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OK I'll just try once more, a FLYING Instructor is someone who is qualified to teach an unlicensed individual to FLY for the purpose of obtaining a LICENSE. A CRI is someone who deals with someone who already has a license. At least I can see the difference!
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OK I'll just try once more, a FLYING Instructor is someone who is qualified to teach an unlicensed individual to FLY for the purpose of obtaining a LICENSE. A CRI is someone who deals with someone who already has a license. At least I can see the difference!
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Flapsin:
I don't think anyone is disputing that?
QFI / CRI are both qualified instructors, but differ in who they can instruct. A CRI is a qualified instructor, but with a more specific role/scope.
End of.
EDIT: Warning: This thread about to descend into a squabble over semantics and phraseology if we're not careful...
I don't think anyone is disputing that?
QFI / CRI are both qualified instructors, but differ in who they can instruct. A CRI is a qualified instructor, but with a more specific role/scope.
End of.
EDIT: Warning: This thread about to descend into a squabble over semantics and phraseology if we're not careful...
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QFI / CRI are both qualified instructors, but differ in who they can instruct. A CRI is a qualified instructor, but with a more specific role/scope.
We have
FI
CRI
TRI
IRI
SFI
But no QFI. All of the instructors listed above are QUALIFIED Flying Instructors of one flavour or another.......
Sorry XX - I could not resist the foray into pedantry, your post is quite correct.
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Going back to the original post, I suspect the basis of the question may relate to an insurers stipulations on who else can fly an insured aircraft other than the owners. In our group, the policy specifies the same list of instructor types as indicated in the first post. Therefore, I am tempted to conclude that insurers are stipulating that the aircraft is insured for instructors and owners, obviously, once they are signed off. The policy needs to cover the period where the owner is P1 u/s whilst undergoing differences training etc.
In other words, the policy is simply saying, "an appropiately qualified instructor".
In this scenario I would have thought a CRI would therefore be covered by a policy.
However, if the owner does not yet have a licence then clearly the CRI would not be covered, as he would not be qualified to instruct ab-initio.
I'll phone our insurers tomorrow and specifically check if policy covers CRI's.
In other words, the policy is simply saying, "an appropiately qualified instructor".
In this scenario I would have thought a CRI would therefore be covered by a policy.
However, if the owner does not yet have a licence then clearly the CRI would not be covered, as he would not be qualified to instruct ab-initio.
I'll phone our insurers tomorrow and specifically check if policy covers CRI's.
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However, if the owner does not yet have a licence then clearly the CRI would not be covered, as he would not be qualified to instruct ab-initio.
I can save you the call to the insurers as the answer is yes a CRI is deemed to be a QUALIFIED Instructor. It is the basis of the LAA Coaching Scheme amongst many things.
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Bose did you forget FI(R)?
Sorry could hardly resit!
Sorry could hardly resit!
And I suppose while I am at it we should keep IO happy and list the examiner ratings.....
R
FE
TRE
CRE
IRE
SFE
FIE