Disorientated pilot near Oban!
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10W........OK yep u dead right...had a few bad days so brain not in gear 809sqn from my RAF ATC days Ark Royal and Honnington based Buccaneers...used to come and give us some nice flybys in the tower at Tain Range ....OK then back to bed for me!!
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Without wishing to dissect the wherefores, does anyone know the aircraft type and/or pilot experience level?
I am always keen to build a picture of the type of aircraft and pilot experience level of those who do GA Iceland - Scotland ferry flights in SEP's as it's been offered up to me in the past and I have politely declined. The only chap I met who brought an SEP over here was barking mad! lol
1. Very Professional, switched on, safety orientated (as far as you can with a SEP) and experienced pilots.
2. The aforementioned Barking mad! And some of these with a combination of "it'll never happen to me" mentality or complete and utter lack of understanding of the consequences when something goes wrong.
Unfortunately there are a number of hour builders that get caught up in ferrying aircraft along the NAT route without any, or very limited, experience of flying in WX outside of VFR conditions.
Unfortunately this pilot was not the first and she won't be the last.
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Apparently "limited" was the polite answer to the experience
I would suggest that posters refrain from speculating or pre-judging on the experience or otherwise of the assisted pilot in this case, until the full facts are actually known.
Fact 1- aircraft gets caught in turbulence with loss of control
Fact 2 - one disorientated high-houred instrument rated pilot
Fact 3 - situation stabilised, ac climbed, pilot reassured and vectored over sea
Fact 4 - ac gets VMC and is shepherded round coast to Campbeltown for RV with chopper
Fact 5 - ac lands safely at Prestwick
Impossible to prejudge how anyone would feel if they had lost control in turbulence. Even if you were a multi-thousand hour IFR rated pilot, a scary moment like that needs VERY careful handling. I doubt I would want to lose sight of the horizon and go back into cloud ... or spend a night in Campbeltown
... (Actually come to think of it, the last time I spent a night in Campbeltown it was very turbulent and exactly like losing sight of the horizon and going back into cloud ...
)Anyway, pPruners weren't in the cockpit so it's not our call.
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I may suggest this little lady owes a nice big hug to PH-UKU
My statement was not speculation, maybe not wholly formed with specifics but I was pitching in a simple answer to what, in this business, is not always a simple question.
However I've seen the high houred instrument rated pilots, quite literally, dead in the water before in this sector of the business.
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Mad Jock......and dont you knock the sheep...in my other day job I end up having to day stop all day in EC and it aint pleasant...taken recently to visiting the grave yard as its a real interesting place....shows what an afluent place EC was in its hey day of Distillerys and Shipping magnets!!
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Jesus I have visions now of scottish info sitting with a pair of wellies and velcro gloves.
Surely there must be some EU human rights legislation which says you don't have remain there longer than say 30mins without getting ratarsed.
Surely there must be some EU human rights legislation which says you don't have remain there longer than say 30mins without getting ratarsed.
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its hey day of Distillerys and Shipping magnets!!
Still, (scuse the pun) there's one distillery left ..... Springbank .. and a fine dram it is too
From J+A Mitchell's website .... "Founded in 1828 on the site of Archibald Mitchell's illicit still..... " Hmmmmmm, must be a great-great-great relative over there somewhere ..
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PH........OK then spelling not my best side........lazeing around in shorts and catching the rays one thing I am a wee bit better at ....even on the sector or in Campbletown..!!! And OK then will look forward to sampling a dram or two of your family brew one day!!
....even on the sector or in Campbletown..!!! And OK then will look forward to sampling a dram or two of your family brew one day!!
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Jesus I have visions now of scottish info sitting with a pair of wellies and velcro gloves.
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Ref the "CFI" who sent the stude back with a flea in his ear ... I sincerely hope the stude went back to base, landed OK, got in his car, returned to our hero's airfield, and took him round the back of the control tower and "explained" himself properly ...
T*sser ...
T*sser ...
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latest press reports are that infact this was our friend " Biggles" in disguise as a woman having started a sheep ferrying business. She was having problems locating a decent tree landing site 
At least she hit Scotland and didnt end up enroute to Norway or Ireland which is pretty good nav
Pace
At least she hit Scotland and didnt end up enroute to Norway or Ireland which is pretty good nav
Pace
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Actually thinking about it a bit more and pace mentioning "biggles" someone needs to have a word in that CFI's ear.
The QXC has just been dicking around finding the airfield (time unknown) Fuel planning is now out the window and then they get told not to land and to head home again. It appears to me we have a couple of cheese holes lining up.
As a matter of interest were they jamming the hell out of the GPS signal on the west coast that day.
The QXC has just been dicking around finding the airfield (time unknown) Fuel planning is now out the window and then they get told not to land and to head home again. It appears to me we have a couple of cheese holes lining up.
As a matter of interest were they jamming the hell out of the GPS signal on the west coast that day.
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Brave
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Anorak data:
N-number : N6321W
Aircraft Serial Number : T20608823
Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA
Model : T206H
Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
Model : TIO-540-AJ1A
Aircraft Year : 2008
Owner Name : PILOT INTERNTIONAL INC
Owner Address : 1800 E 5TH ST
VALLEY CENTER, KS, 67147-4925
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 15-Jul-2009
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
Left Prestwick 1/9/09 about 09.43am heading East.
After 'Mitchells do fly IMC', I'd say that there is
scope for a documentary about single engined ferry
flights across the North Atlantic (particularly in
Winter). Who was that German lady?
Could maybe make a nice add on to Coast.
'Oggin'?
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Anorak data:
N-number : N6321W
Aircraft Serial Number : T20608823
Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA
Model : T206H
Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
Model : TIO-540-AJ1A
Aircraft Year : 2008
Owner Name : PILOT INTERNTIONAL INC
Owner Address : 1800 E 5TH ST
VALLEY CENTER, KS, 67147-4925
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 15-Jul-2009
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
Left Prestwick 1/9/09 about 09.43am heading East.
After 'Mitchells do fly IMC', I'd say that there is
scope for a documentary about single engined ferry
flights across the North Atlantic (particularly in
Winter). Who was that German lady?
Could maybe make a nice add on to Coast.
'Oggin'?
.
