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Old 8th Dec 2008, 11:02
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A case of being caught red-footed, and a classic example of putting one's foot in it!

Sorry, I'll get my coat!

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Old 8th Dec 2008, 12:08
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Sorry, I'll get my coat!
If I hear what you guys have been doing these last few days, you'd better get some sleep instead.

Well done. I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms.
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Andrew Marr's programme on the BBC ( England from the Air was it ?) showed him being flown around in a yellow Tiger Moth .. is this the same one ? with Mr Mathews at the helm possibly ?
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The really amusing bit; I have asked about a dozen people how they would go about setting fire to a fish and chip shop.

Not one has suggested throwing a canful of petrol around, and lighting a match.

Mr Matthews gets full marks for originality.

Andrew Marr's programme on the BBC ( England from the Air was it ?) showed him being flown around in a yellow Tiger Moth .. is this the same one ? with Mr Mathews at the helm possibly ?
The Tiger in the programme ended landing at Compton Abbas, so I think I know which one was used, and it wasn't the subject of this thread.
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gets full marks for originality
When the chips were down, he was caught between a Rock and a hard Plaice!

Like SD I shall slink away quietly...

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Old 8th Dec 2008, 13:52
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Cod almighty! Sometimes this plaice makes me laugh, some of you do have chips on your shoulders....
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 20:10
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Burnt in Action!!

It all occured whilst on active service he claims, no mention of a chip shop in Rochdale.

According to ex associates...It happenened whilst he was working with the red cross in Somalia. He was hit by shrapnel whilst saving a little boy. He had to be airlifted out of the warzone...still holding the child whilst his shoe was melting into his ankle!!!

Another marvellous account states that the same injury occured, again, whilst on active service....This time in Mogadishu, a landmine, that he had the misfortune of stepping on! The explosion was so severe.. It blew his shoe several thousand miles away...and landed in a chippy in Rochdale!!

Unfortunatly, people have believed these stories and have been taken in enough to hand over their money or give time to his so called 'charitable activities.'

I was one of them!!!

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Old 11th Dec 2008, 22:59
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Happy to report that if you search for "tigers for kids" on google (including the quotes), this thread and all the useful information it contains is now the third entry, straight behind the Tigers for Kids website.

Unfortunately if you search for "Adrian Matthews" the score is worse. Probably since everybody seems to refer to him as "Mr Matthews", which is too generic a term for Google.
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Old 12th Dec 2008, 20:33
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The plot thickens!!

I'm trying to find an article written on the 9th of February 2001 in The Daily Mirror. It is regarding the Matthews family. Joan (Adrians Mother), Bryan (his brother), Lana (his sister) and, of course, the now infamous Mr Matthews. The article is about the whole family being implicated in a medical business scam. Apparantly, the company was called Lonloc. They supplied locum doctors to hospitals. Another company that they set up was called Excel. They allegedly never paid the doctors and owed thousands of pounds! Can anybody help?
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Can't help you with the Daily Mail artice SH, but according to the article in FTN, Adrian Matthews was both company director of Excel Locums and Universal Medical Services Ltd, both of which were subsequently disolved. Then, in 2003, Mr Matthews was barred from being a company director for five years at Oldham County Court.

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Old 14th Dec 2008, 11:42
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Thanks for the warning of thread closure BRL!

Like any industry aviation has its crooks and con artists - these people will always tell you what they want you to hear and then deny the important bits when you have cause to remind them.

Money is always the motivation - don't part with yours!

False names, theft, lies, prison, drugs, abusing children, absconding and all the other cr@p these people got up to but were never caught for. They should all hang their heads in shame, not that they would of course but what goes around has a habit of coming back around and these to55ers will get what's coming to them one way or another.
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 12:13
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I have been following the thread about the Tigers for kids affair with interest, because some years ago I got dragged into peripheral involvement with a registered charity which provided glider flights at low cost or no cost to children. As far as I could see, most of the money that the charity received went to paying the income of the person running it. As I understand it, provided the charitable purposes were genuinely meant and there was a genuine effort to supply them, there is nothing illegal in that. If most of the income is used up in administrating the charity including salaries to employees which can include the person who started the charity, that does not make it illegal or fraud in itself. I was watching to see if the developments revealed about Tiger for kids was a similar affair, or at the least have many similarities, or whether it was something quite different.

I wanted (and still want) to know if this charity was similarly organised – legitimate in format, however much of its income went in paying its organiser(s)/employee(s), and/or if the Charity Commissioners or other are making any moves to investigate it, or to challenge its basis.

I will be disappointed if the thread does not lead to news of that, although of course PPRuNe cannot make people post what they don’t know or don’t want to.

By the way, I am who I say I am.

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Old 14th Dec 2008, 13:24
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'Charity' still advertising

As this thread is possibly about to close may I post the following link in case others here have not seen it;

Rent A Date For Charity | Tigers for Kids

This is currently on 'Google' and seems to be soliciting funds for the 'Charity' .

I would like the thread to continue as it may just give a 'heads up' for anyone tempted to donate. However, I respect the Mods on here, so if the thread is closed I will respect the moderators descision.
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 13:57
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Originally Posted by chrisN
I wanted (and still want) to know if the Charity Commissioners or other are making any moves to investigate it, or to challenge its basis.
Chris,

If you read the thread you will see that your question has been answered. The Charity Commissioners are investigating and have already "challenged its basis" - by removing it from the register.

The company, The International Tiger Moth Charitable Trust, run by 43-year-old Adrian Matthews, of Milnrow Road, Newbold, was struck off the register of limited companies at Companies House in June 2004 for failing to submit its accounts.

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Old 14th Dec 2008, 15:14
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FBW, thanks. I had read it, but so long ago I had forgotten. I would still like to know if an organiser taking a salary is the point at issue (I don’t think it can be) or what, but I suppose I shall have to await reports elsewhere if this thread gets locked or deleted.

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Old 14th Dec 2008, 22:09
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'Rent a date for Charity' have been informed about Adrian Matthews and his 'Tigers for Kids' bogus charity. They are removing it from their site.

At the moment, the CAA are investigating him. The charity Commissions are investigating him. They are working together along with the police.

It looks like this man has continuously conducted his life in a 'take everything that doesn't belong to him' fashion.

Sadly though, he will probably 'set up shop' in a different part of the country. Forge another CV. Convince many more people to hand over their well earned money....Obviously because this life style is all he knows.

People like him never think they are doing anything wrong. They constantly blame everybody else. He has no compassion and no integrity. He just thinks the world owes him a 'big fat wallet' and he'll go to any lengths to get it, as this thread has shown!
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 15:32
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Tigers for kids

Not seen his claim to this until now........

Ex RAF fighter Stunt pilot adrian john Matthews first shot to fame in BBC2 TOP GEAR as "The Stig"
He was the team leader of the RAF Red Arrows formation flying team from 1992 to 1996.

Adrian Matthews-adrian,matthews Video Search - The Best adrian,matthews video search engineer, you can search and download the hottest adrian,matthews videos through leechvideo.com

One would have thought he would be wearing a red flying suit....
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 15:55
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I hope BRL keeps this thread open for a while longer. I find myself coming back to it every time just to see if it gets any weirder than it already is.

I agree that it really doesn't fit "Private Flying" anymore but in the absence of a "Lies, Scams and Frauds Exposed" forum here on PPRuNe, I think we can tolerate this one thread right here.
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 16:12
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Well, as you mention it, this thread has been discussed in the Admin Forum and it gets to stay here.

Someone will be here soon to go through the thread and get rid of a lot of posts so expect some posts going missing as soon as one of us gets the time to go through it.
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 20:44
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...it really doesn't fit "Private Flying" anymore but in the absence of a "Lies, Scams and Frauds Exposed" forum here on PPRuNe...
When you have been in aviation for long enough you are likely to notice the same names apear regularly over the years under this category. Aviation has a mixture of con-men and scoundrels in the same way as the non-flying world. There does not seem to be any aviation based warning to protect the rest of us. Is there any way that PPRuNe could have a such a Forum without being the expensive target of legal action? Could written evidence of illegality be used to protect posters and PPRuNe from comeback in order to help the unwary and make it more difficuult for these parasites?
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