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Indeed SAS.
I just wondered who appointed anonymous posters on an internet forum judge jury an executioner.
I am sure that this person has wronged many people in the past and seems to be wronging people in the present but I am not inclined to participate in the vigilante action.
Those who are please feel free to carry on but as I said those without sin cast the first stone. Experience has shown that these things all to easily slide out of control.
I just wondered who appointed anonymous posters on an internet forum judge jury an executioner.
I am sure that this person has wronged many people in the past and seems to be wronging people in the present but I am not inclined to participate in the vigilante action.
Those who are please feel free to carry on but as I said those without sin cast the first stone. Experience has shown that these things all to easily slide out of control.
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I'm in the process of finding out if this is a scam. It's not hard to do. If it is true.................Then I'll personally chase him with a burning torch and pitchfork.
I agree with bose-x and thought carefully before posting.
However, there does seem to be quite a bit of a history with this person and the note from Fiona, if indeed it is she, is very interesting given her story which I heard by chance on Radio 4 a week or so ago.
The case I am thinking of is the so called "Guvnor" episode where PPrune came to the fore with flying colours.
However, there does seem to be quite a bit of a history with this person and the note from Fiona, if indeed it is she, is very interesting given her story which I heard by chance on Radio 4 a week or so ago.
The case I am thinking of is the so called "Guvnor" episode where PPrune came to the fore with flying colours.
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Wise words, and you are right. The fact is that I haven't spoken to Adrian in nearly ten years so I have no idea what the exact allegations are in this instance or even if there is any substance.
But it's really, really hard when someone has caused so much hurt and pain to restrain oneself from hitting out. I think I've done well for nearly ten years to keep my word to a man who went out of his way to make my life a misery and punnish me just for not wanting to be with him and choosing someone else.
I took a lot back in 99, believe me or not, I've taken a lot for the last nine years to protect other people, but as I said, I'm not perfect so who am I to judge, I'll leave that job to the Lord God. So whatever **** hits the fan will be devine judgement and not mine. I know what I've been guilty of in my life and so does God, he sees everything, he knows what we have all done and he will judge.
Praise the Lord.
But it's really, really hard when someone has caused so much hurt and pain to restrain oneself from hitting out. I think I've done well for nearly ten years to keep my word to a man who went out of his way to make my life a misery and punnish me just for not wanting to be with him and choosing someone else.
I took a lot back in 99, believe me or not, I've taken a lot for the last nine years to protect other people, but as I said, I'm not perfect so who am I to judge, I'll leave that job to the Lord God. So whatever **** hits the fan will be devine judgement and not mine. I know what I've been guilty of in my life and so does God, he sees everything, he knows what we have all done and he will judge.
Praise the Lord.
In the interest of balance, the last paragraph of the newspaper report is interesting:
On the basis of "innocent until proven guilty", it is not unreasonable for Mr. Rowen to leave the article on his website unless and until any wrongdoing is substantiated, as he says:
Ends don't justify means, but this is maybe not as black and white as some are perhaps viewing it.
FBW
Rochdale MP Paul Rowen said: "I have been aware of a number of allegations made against this organisation. I appreciate that these are currently under investigation and wouldn’t want to comment any further until the results of this are known.
What I will say is that when I attended a recent event organised by the organisation, it was quite clear that the opportunity to fly was greatly appreciated by the terminally-ill children. I hope that this situation will be resolved as soon as possible so that children can continue to enjoy this unique opportunity."
What I will say is that when I attended a recent event organised by the organisation, it was quite clear that the opportunity to fly was greatly appreciated by the terminally-ill children. I hope that this situation will be resolved as soon as possible so that children can continue to enjoy this unique opportunity."
"I was able to discuss the difference that this flight makes with the parents of these young people. Despite only being for about 25 minutes, this is a memory that many of these young people hold for a lifetime."
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For scams to work there has to be some basis in reality. Look at Archer and the missing Kurdish millions.
They may well be providing flights, but if the money raised is only partly going to the front end, then it is very, very dodgy.
There are very strict rules about charities and their funding. So far from my limited sleuthing, this doesn't seem to fulfil many if any of them.
They may well be providing flights, but if the money raised is only partly going to the front end, then it is very, very dodgy.
There are very strict rules about charities and their funding. So far from my limited sleuthing, this doesn't seem to fulfil many if any of them.
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I e-mailed Paul Rowen several weeks ago about this and pointed out to him that he may wish to remove the page on his website while Mr Matthews was being investigated by the Charities Commission. He declined to do so, stating that until he had some 'concrete proof' the article would stay.
I have asked him repeatedly since then to remove the article but he has declined. Even now, with the press disclosure, he still will not remove it, and that causes me concern.
Here we have an individual, with a criminal past running a so-called charity. That charity gets struck off, twice! for not submitting accounts, and yet he claims it is still registered, on his website and on his literature.
He even convinces an MP that he is bona fide, and as a result, that MP actively encourages the public to give the guy money! Now, even on your own basis of "innocent until proven guilty", surely you would expect the local MP to say 'well, lets just hold fire for a bit on the donations people, just until this is all cleared up'. Instead, he refuses to acknowledge the facts and continues to support him; shamefull. I trust that the good people of Rochdale will remember that when the next election comes around.
Fiona, having read your story and knowing this individual, you have my deepest sympathy and utmost admiration. Well done!
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You don't need to be a rocket scientist to take a look into Matthews' past; This has got nothing whatsoever to do with a witch hunt - we know who the guilty person is! We don't need to go hunting for him!! Thus, your comment about 'being without sin and casting the first stone' is both irrelevant and incorrect Sir.
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ps anyone at Barton care to comment yet??
I e-mailed Paul Rowen several weeks ago about this and pointed out to him that he may wish to remove the page on his website while Mr Matthews was being investigated by the Charities Commission. He declined to do so, stating that until he had some 'concrete proof' the article would stay.
I have asked him repeatedly since then to remove the article but he has declined. Even now, with the press disclosure, he still will not remove it, and that causes me concern.
Here we have an individual, with a criminal past running a so-called charity. That charity gets struck off, twice! for not submitting accounts, and yet he claims it is still registered, on his website and on his literature.
He even convinces an MP that he is bona fide, and as a result, that MP actively encourages the public to give the guy money! Now, even on your own basis of "innocent until proven guilty", surely you would expect the local MP to say 'well, lets just hold fire for a bit on the donations people, just until this is all cleared up'. Instead, he refuses to acknowledge the facts and continues to support him; shamefull. I trust that the good people of Rochdale will remember that when the next election comes around.
Fiona, having read your story and knowing this individual, you have my deepest sympathy and utmost admiration. Well done!
bose-x
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to take a look into Matthews' past; This has got nothing whatsoever to do with a witch hunt - we know who the guilty person is! We don't need to go hunting for him!! Thus, your comment about 'being without sin and casting the first stone' is both irrelevant and incorrect Sir.
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ps anyone at Barton care to comment yet??
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Facts
As I said before I don't know the in's and out's of these allegations but I will tell you some of what I know:
Adrian Matthews was convicted of £5,000,000 fraud in 1994 on 8 indictments
Sentenced at Liverpool Crown court even though the offence was committed in Greater Manchester.
Sentenced to 3 years in prison - released from Sudbury
Court case number T941572
His co-accused (who I do not know personally) were sentenced to higher sentences.
It is rare for cases to be transfered from the area of the crime, this usually happens when we in the trade call it 'QE'.
I have no further details on this conviction and cannot comment on the details any more than I can on the details of present allegations.
However I would like to add that there is probably more to this story than meets the eye.
At the time of mine and Adrian's arrest in 1999 the officer in charge of the case, Steve Skerrett, seemed more interested in me and what I was wearing than in Adrian and his £5 million pound conviction, which always astonished me, perhaps QE's get some preferential treatment, I really don't know.
I can only guess and draw my own conclusions. Further than that I cannot say.
Adrian Matthews was convicted of £5,000,000 fraud in 1994 on 8 indictments
Sentenced at Liverpool Crown court even though the offence was committed in Greater Manchester.
Sentenced to 3 years in prison - released from Sudbury
Court case number T941572
His co-accused (who I do not know personally) were sentenced to higher sentences.
It is rare for cases to be transfered from the area of the crime, this usually happens when we in the trade call it 'QE'.
I have no further details on this conviction and cannot comment on the details any more than I can on the details of present allegations.
However I would like to add that there is probably more to this story than meets the eye.
At the time of mine and Adrian's arrest in 1999 the officer in charge of the case, Steve Skerrett, seemed more interested in me and what I was wearing than in Adrian and his £5 million pound conviction, which always astonished me, perhaps QE's get some preferential treatment, I really don't know.
I can only guess and draw my own conclusions. Further than that I cannot say.
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A check of the tech logs is suggested. I was told that the aircraft has not been serviceable long enough to have done as many as 10% of the 500 flights claimed.
Winco,
I've done a little digging, and come up with this old contact address for Tigers for Kids from a google cache*:
Now that address is the same as the one in the SAMRA skymarshals thread, where the following information from Companies House was provided:
It would rather explain why
Because the director was disqualified.
To be accurate, the Charities Commission only removed it once, in July of this year. And the Tigers for Kids website does say that the Registered Charity number is "pending" (whatever that means), while Mr Matthews said he:
On the basis of "innocent until proven guilty", Mr Rowen is entitled to continue to publicise the positive aspects of Tigers for Kids that he has seen - the fact that an investigation is underway does not in itself mean that there are charges to answer, nor does the fact that the existence of that investigation has been reported in a newspaper make it somehow any more than an investigation.
However, given the increasing amount of information that has come to light about Tigers for Kids and those running it - even here on PPRuNe - Mr Rowen might indeed consider it prudent to distance himself from Tigers for Kids sooner rather than later, for the good of his electorate - as you say:
FBW
* This is Google's cache of http://www.rentadateforcharity.com/tigersforkids.htm. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 18 Oct 2008 11:31:05 GMT.
I've done a little digging, and come up with this old contact address for Tigers for Kids from a google cache*:
Tigers for Kids
15 St John's Court
Rochdale
Lancashire
OL16 5TF
Charity Registration No 1087253
15 St John's Court
Rochdale
Lancashire
OL16 5TF
Charity Registration No 1087253
Fellow directors/secretary of EXCEL LOCUMS LIMITED:
Co Secretary: ADRIAN JOHN MATTHEWS
Nationality: BRITISH
Date Appointed: 11/01/2000
Date of Birth: 22/01/1965
Home Address: 15 ST JOHNS COURT, ROCHDALE, LANCASHIRE, OL16 5TF
Occupation: PILOT
Who was in turn previously a director of 03478287 SECURITY LEISURE LIMITED, dissolved 24/04/2001, and
DREAM VENTURES LIMITED, 15 SAINT JOHNS COURT, ROCHDALE, LANCASHIRE, OL16 5TF
Companies House records note that a ADRIAN JOHN MATTHEWS
(22/01/1965) of OL16 5TF was disqualified from being a director on 26/02/2003 until 25/02/2008 (60 months) under CCDD Section CDDA 1986 S6.
Co Secretary: ADRIAN JOHN MATTHEWS
Nationality: BRITISH
Date Appointed: 11/01/2000
Date of Birth: 22/01/1965
Home Address: 15 ST JOHNS COURT, ROCHDALE, LANCASHIRE, OL16 5TF
Occupation: PILOT
Who was in turn previously a director of 03478287 SECURITY LEISURE LIMITED, dissolved 24/04/2001, and
DREAM VENTURES LIMITED, 15 SAINT JOHNS COURT, ROCHDALE, LANCASHIRE, OL16 5TF
Companies House records note that a ADRIAN JOHN MATTHEWS
(22/01/1965) of OL16 5TF was disqualified from being a director on 26/02/2003 until 25/02/2008 (60 months) under CCDD Section CDDA 1986 S6.
The International Tiger Moth Charitable Trust, run by 43-year-old Adrian Matthews, of Milnrow Road, Newbold, was struck off the register of limited companies at Companies House in June 2004 for failing to submit its accounts.
To be accurate, the Charities Commission only removed it once, in July of this year. And the Tigers for Kids website does say that the Registered Charity number is "pending" (whatever that means), while Mr Matthews said he:
was in the process of re-registering with the Charity Commission.
However, given the increasing amount of information that has come to light about Tigers for Kids and those running it - even here on PPRuNe - Mr Rowen might indeed consider it prudent to distance himself from Tigers for Kids sooner rather than later, for the good of his electorate - as you say:
to say "well, lets just hold fire for a bit on the donations people".
* This is Google's cache of http://www.rentadateforcharity.com/tigersforkids.htm. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 18 Oct 2008 11:31:05 GMT.
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Winco,
It looks as if you are simply mixing up the company with the charity (Companies House vs. Charities Commission Register. I'm referring to the Charities Commission website, where it states about the charity:
Now the company was dissolved in 2004 - from the Companies House website:
It is clear that the Company was dissolved ONCE in 2004, and as a result the Charitable Status was removed ONCE, in 2008.
FBW
It looks as if you are simply mixing up the company with the charity (Companies House vs. Charities Commission Register. I'm referring to the Charities Commission website, where it states about the charity:
1087253 - INTERNATIONAL TIGER MOTH CHARITABLE TRUST - REMOVED CHARITY
Other names: TIGERS FOR KIDS (Working Name )
Governing document: MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED ON 25TH AUGUST 2000
Date registered: 29 June 2001
Date removed: 16 July 2008
Removal reason: CEASED TO EXIST
Other names: TIGERS FOR KIDS (Working Name )
Governing document: MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED ON 25TH AUGUST 2000
Date registered: 29 June 2001
Date removed: 16 July 2008
Removal reason: CEASED TO EXIST
Name & Registered Office:
THE INTERNATIONAL TIGER MOTH CHARITABLE TRUST
50 BROADWAY
WESTMINSTER
LONDON
SW1H 0BL
Company No. 04059581
Status: Dissolved 15/06/2004
Date of Incorporation: 25/08/2000
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Accounting Reference Date: 31/08
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due:
Last Return Made Up To: 25/08/2002
THE INTERNATIONAL TIGER MOTH CHARITABLE TRUST
50 BROADWAY
WESTMINSTER
LONDON
SW1H 0BL
Company No. 04059581
Status: Dissolved 15/06/2004
Date of Incorporation: 25/08/2000
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Accounting Reference Date: 31/08
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due:
Last Return Made Up To: 25/08/2002
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He needs to be stopped!
Why can somebody with a criminal past run a charity?
I believe he has gotten away with his appalling behaviour for far too long.
Did he ever have cancer like he claimed?
He told me he was in the RAF. Was he?
I know he went to prison on 4th November 1991 for burning down his Mothers chip shop in Rochdale. He was sentenced at Bolton Crown Court. (Crime ref. T199129530). Brian Matthews, his brother and Lana Dawn Matthews, his sister were also in court for 'doing acts tending and intending to pervert the course of public justice. It seems they are a close family in crime and all!
The lowest form of crime to me though is using terminally ill children and their families to satisfy his own needs and making money out of them!!
Surely the childrens hospitals need to be warned! The police need to be brought in and he needs to be arrested! Again!
I believe he has gotten away with his appalling behaviour for far too long.
Did he ever have cancer like he claimed?
He told me he was in the RAF. Was he?
I know he went to prison on 4th November 1991 for burning down his Mothers chip shop in Rochdale. He was sentenced at Bolton Crown Court. (Crime ref. T199129530). Brian Matthews, his brother and Lana Dawn Matthews, his sister were also in court for 'doing acts tending and intending to pervert the course of public justice. It seems they are a close family in crime and all!
The lowest form of crime to me though is using terminally ill children and their families to satisfy his own needs and making money out of them!!
Surely the childrens hospitals need to be warned! The police need to be brought in and he needs to be arrested! Again!
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Well it hit the Manchester press last night:
Riddle of charity cash plea - News - Manchester Evening News
and guess who was there telling everyone it was all a big mistake? Yes, good old Brian Matthews..........the brother! Nothing from Adrian of course, he's gone deep and silent (like he usually does I'm told)
PPruners will remember good old Brian from the Sky Marshall fiasco (my first post on this subject) I do find it bizarre that an opthalmic (sp?) specialist would get involved in such dodgy dealings. I know blood is thicker than water, but you just wouldn't expect a professional person to put his career at risk with such matters.
Sleepy Hole, welcome to this forum. I'm sure your comments about getting in touch with the hospitals will be taken up by someone, maybe I'll do it on monday. Maybe, if the rumours about the CAA are correct, they will put out a statement to all of the childrens hospitals involved in this that they should not be allowing their patients to fly with him.
I see that we can now add arson to the list of activities for Matthews. I wonder what excuse brother Brian will come up for that? Maybe he torched the wrong chip shop?? or maybe he just accidently dropped the match into the can of petrol he happened to be carrying at the time by accident.
There is a lot more of this guys history to come out yet I fear!
The Winco
Riddle of charity cash plea - News - Manchester Evening News
and guess who was there telling everyone it was all a big mistake? Yes, good old Brian Matthews..........the brother! Nothing from Adrian of course, he's gone deep and silent (like he usually does I'm told)
PPruners will remember good old Brian from the Sky Marshall fiasco (my first post on this subject) I do find it bizarre that an opthalmic (sp?) specialist would get involved in such dodgy dealings. I know blood is thicker than water, but you just wouldn't expect a professional person to put his career at risk with such matters.
Sleepy Hole, welcome to this forum. I'm sure your comments about getting in touch with the hospitals will be taken up by someone, maybe I'll do it on monday. Maybe, if the rumours about the CAA are correct, they will put out a statement to all of the childrens hospitals involved in this that they should not be allowing their patients to fly with him.
I see that we can now add arson to the list of activities for Matthews. I wonder what excuse brother Brian will come up for that? Maybe he torched the wrong chip shop?? or maybe he just accidently dropped the match into the can of petrol he happened to be carrying at the time by accident.
There is a lot more of this guys history to come out yet I fear!
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Who's lost out?
I think anybody who has had the unfortunate experience of meeting Adrian Matthews has lost out!!
In my opinion, he hasn't got one decent bone in his body. He is a cruel man. Manipulative and feelingless.
The hospitals and hospices provide these gorgeous courageous children with fantastic day trips out all over the country, and may it continue to stay that way. May they never cross paths with the fraudulent low life criminal that Adrian Matthews is!
Now, don't get me wrong, he might be an amazing pilot but these are the facts:
1. His 'so called' registered charity isn't registered!
2. He went to prison for arson!
3. He went to prison for fraud!
4. He let Fiona Mont take all the blame for a crime he was heavily involved
in!
5. He is currently under investigation for a fraudulent act he committed in
2007.
WOULD YOU WANT YOUR CHILD ANYWHERE NEAR HIM?
I know I wouldn't! I am just sorry I have to express my anger and frustration on this forum over a man that should have been stopped many years ago.
In my opinion, he hasn't got one decent bone in his body. He is a cruel man. Manipulative and feelingless.
The hospitals and hospices provide these gorgeous courageous children with fantastic day trips out all over the country, and may it continue to stay that way. May they never cross paths with the fraudulent low life criminal that Adrian Matthews is!
Now, don't get me wrong, he might be an amazing pilot but these are the facts:
1. His 'so called' registered charity isn't registered!
2. He went to prison for arson!
3. He went to prison for fraud!
4. He let Fiona Mont take all the blame for a crime he was heavily involved
in!
5. He is currently under investigation for a fraudulent act he committed in
2007.
WOULD YOU WANT YOUR CHILD ANYWHERE NEAR HIM?
I know I wouldn't! I am just sorry I have to express my anger and frustration on this forum over a man that should have been stopped many years ago.